To find this cashing in disgusting?

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I am at work in the bookshop at the moment and we have just had a delivery of an auto-biography of JADE GOODY ffs, complete with fears about losing her hair etc. It seems to have been ghostwritten by some hack from Heat magazine, but even so, wouldn't you want to spend time quietly with your family and concentrate on getting well after a cancer diagnosis? All the sleb mags are full of her "exclusive" interviews and pics though, and it seems like one huge money-making opportunity. What is this - well you've seen my kebab, now pay to read about my internal organs ???? I think it's in very poor taste, AIBU?

She has made quite alot of herself she did her own TV show on living

wrote a different book to this one owned a Beauty salon as well as other things

I am sure she lost alot of money as someone that was close to her was stealing money

Her biggest mistake was to go on Celeb BB but hey she has learned from that

I dont think she is a bad person and yes anyone that sits and talks about her keeps her in the public eye as you make other people talk about her etc

Also if she didnt speak out about the cancer the pap's would of and she would of been invaded she is a celeb what ever u may or not think and she is the most successful BB housemate considering she didnt win and yes she now has cancer have some sympthy for her she has not had a nice upbringing she has done well not to subject her two beautiful sons to the same kind of childhood as hers and she is a good mother and a good person.

OK OK calm down folks, sorry if i "contaminated" the original thread by talking about Jade perhaps helping raise awareness BECAUSE of her high profile. How is that any different from Anne Diamond and her cot death work, or Roy Castle's publicity about passive smoking. (and before anyone has a go, I speak as a mother who has had a baby stillborn so don't have a go)

As a woman and a mum, of course I have sympathy for her and wish her a good recovery.

I said that perhaps a good thing to come out of her situation would be for her to be involved in an education campaign type thing to be used in school. I was not saying she should die and scare everyone off having sex.

Someone else seems to have had some flack being accused of "being the teacher who should not be teaching sex ed" , sorry, and thanks to those who waded in to back me up, even if my original wording was ambiguous or open to mis-interpretation.

HPV/risk of cervical cancer IS linked to both promiscuity AND early start to sexual relations....I did NOT say that is how Jade got it, just that this MIGHT be another way of cutting down on the ever increasing numbers of younger women getting this type of cancer. As with all statistics, they are not exclusive and of course i know people who are monogamous can also get cervical cancer, just as all sorts of people can get all sorts of other cancers. I was talking about raising awareness of the facts to enable people to minimise their own risks. Jade ignored the warnings of her smears, she was in the "it will never happen to me" brigade as are so many of our young people who think they are invincible

if ONE other person could be saved what she is going through is that not a good thing?

expat - So none of these 'virgins' who had HPV/cervical cancer actually had hymens?

Sure, it is theoretically possible, but when was a virgin (a real one, not someone who has been prodded with various things as you suggest) diagnosed with cervical cancer?

I wasn't examining them, and it wasn't among the doctors to discuss the patients in such a fashion.

Possible for them to get abnormal cells on the cervix, I suppose, as I do find it really confusing how poor Jade had SO many smears and tests but her cancer wasn't detected until it became invasive uterine cancer.

That's quite rare in someone who has been having tests, IIRC.

Again, I think the NHS changed its guidelines recently, even in light of the average age at which girls do report having first sexual intercourse is declining.

Another salient point brought up by a GP on this board is how only girls are being offered the HPV jab, but boys can a) statistically transmit it to more people, male and female b) it is responsible for anal cancer in men who are gay, bi-sexual or have a bi-sexual experience.

Again, not knowing if Jade does in fact have HPV at all.

Jade might be everybody's cup of tea, but I think anybody suffering form this horrible disease deserves some compassion.

Jades' diagnosis has happened to coincide with the rolling out of cervical cancer vaccines for girls.If her book manages to higlight the disease and explain what if can be like to be diagnosed then maybe some good can come out of it.

'sorry, missed out quotation marks:
expat - So none of these 'virgins' who had HPV/cervical cancer actually had hymens?

Sure, it is theoretically possible, but when was a virgin (a real one, not someone who has been prodded with various things as you suggest) diagnosed with cervical cancer? '

I saw an interview with Max Clifford once. He was not in the least embarrassed about what he does. After all he can only sell what you are prepared to buy. Presumably those of you who disapprove of that kind of thing are way outnumbered by those who do.

The same applies to Ms Goody's book.

I've not heard much about her since the racist accusations got in the mainstream news. I guess I don't read the 'right' kind of magazines.

She does seem a bit 'slow'. Wouldn't it be awful if she had some mental disability and MNers were slagging her off for being stupid.

Still I can understand why some hate her so much. Money and fame and found more than one man willing to have sex with her

lulubellarama- I hope it doesn't put anyone who wants lots of sexual partners off. There is nothing wrong with having lots of different oppartners if you are having enjoyable consensual sex
Re Jade Goody, I don't really have anything to say

American Cancer Society says (2004) to start smear tests 3 years after vaginal intercourse, no later than age 21.

United States Preventative Services Task Force says (2003) to start smear tests within 3 years of onset of sexual activity or age 21, whichever comes first.

American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology recommends starting smears 3 years after 1st sexual intercourse or age 21, whichever comes first.

All from here.

If in UK you are advised to start smear tests at the age of 25 only, regardless of when you have first sexual intercourse, that seems a very strange recommendation considering that you may have contracted HPV at first intercourse (at 15, as many seem to do) and can be on your way to invasive cancer by the age of 25.

why would max clifford be embarrassed at what he does?

he is very good at it

I think if she had some sort of disability it would have come to light by now. I guess you could consider being stupid as a disability, but it is possible to be not very bright and yet be perfectly pleasant. Jade (and I have only knowledge from watching a bit of the original BB series and reading about the later controversy) comes across as rather small minded, possibly bigoted and certainly at times rather nasty. I really fail to see how a career can be built on that. Or more importantly why.

"I do find it really confusing how poor Jade had SO many smears and tests but her cancer wasn't detected until it became invasive uterine cancer."

That is only because she ignored repeated letters from doctors saying she need to have precancerous cells removed.

Sorry, but I have zero sympathy for such stupidity. Darwin was right about this if not all points in his theory of natural selection .

gosh cote you are very unbending

Zippi he shouldn't be.

Nooka, I actually think it's daft that people can be famous for being famous (with no skill involved) but the fact is they can and they are in demand just like dentists. So I'd have to say that it is a career.

It's a career that makes a lot of people very happy (sometimes happy because they have something to rant at, but happy nonetheless )

I don't hate her but she came across as a quite a nasty individual - a greedy self centred bully before she had cancer and it seems like she is using the media to make people like her again because she has cancer. It's not a case of I am a nice person because I have changed my ways - it's I'm a nice person because I have cancer - please feel sorry for me. What has happened to her is really awful and she does not deserve it and no one here thinks she does. However, she is lucky that she can afford to have all the best private treatment and not have to wait on the NHS or be refused drugs because they are too expensive. Her manipulation of the media to get public sympathy for her plight is quite insulting to other cancer patients who are not in such a fortunate position.

And the way she portrays things like she is down to her last 160K but her outgoings are 12k per month so people should feel sorry for her, etc just really sum her up.

Lots of women miss their smear tests- I don't think they deserve cancer

Nooka she became famous before the whole racial incident. She is very slow but that maybe due to her being forced to smoke weed as a child and lack of parenting from her mother or father who were both druggies that didn't give a shit about her.

She is famous because we made her famous all the people that read about her talk about her watch shows with her in keep her in the limelight and this thread will make someone think woo I never knew she brought out a book and will buy her book now or will discuss it with someone else so in fact Nooka your keeping her famous by bad mouthing her.

I am glad she is selling her story it can't be easy for a young mother to have to go thru what she is on top of that have to deal with public critism and look after two young boys.

but if people didnt show an interest in her then she wouldnt make money

she is just using the tools available

she didn't miss her smear tests, though.

i am, however, really and truly amazed at the number of British women who have had sex and even kids but don't go for smear tests or have them regularly or are very adverse to them.

it strikes me as very odd, sorry, but it does, considering the test is usually performed by another female and is not nearly as invasive as penetrative sex or having a baby.

it makes the Brits seem very reserved.

She was in and out of hospital with pain and bleeding. If the risk was so obvious then surely one of her hospital doctors should have spotted it.
I agree she did no come over as a terribly attractive or intelligent person on celeb bb, but I thought some of the reaction to her was ridiculously extreme. There has been far, far worse bullying on BB, including of people who were clearly mentally ill. She did have a shockingly abusive, neglectful childhood, which it seems she is not perpetuating (though of course I have no real idea).
I don't really think of her from one day to the next, but I would feel sorry for anyone of 27, diagnosed with cancer and having to have an hysterectomy. What exactly do you lose by feeling sympathy rather that sneering?

Cote. harsh words.

My mum was extremely bright, fit, ate a v healthy diet. She had shit genes though. She got cancer aged 48 and left 3 children aged 24, 19 and 13 behind when she died 6 months later. She had asked for tests, got them and things were still not detected until it was far too late.

Survival of the fittest? God, I hope you are never in the position of having to rationalise the early death of someone you love in such a way.

And as for Jade.. I am not a fan. I think she is the epitome of what is wrong with celeb culture. But i wish her well.

there was another thread about this that turned messy
people can't seem to make their minds up about her
i think we have to just agree that she has her supporters and her bashers
hope this thread doesn't go the same way as the last one

YABU.

I hope Jade recovers and I hope that she makes a huge amount of money to support her family. To wish her anything less is a bit shitty really.

Perhaps she's cashing in to make sure her children will be alright in the future.

I feel very sorry for her and I hope that she gets to see her boys grow up.

it is easy imo, it you find the book distaseful.....don't buy or read it.
some people will read it because they are fans or because they like to read rubish.

I neither like or dislike her, I do hope she gets through this and gets to see her boys grow up.

spooky same words at the end of both our posts.