To want a couple of glasses of wine when pregnant??

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I am nearly 10 weeks pregnant and would like to drink a couple of glasses of wine (per week) as I did when i was pregnant with my other children. The current guidelines are not to drink at all which is different to what it used to be.

Look expat - you demanded to know if PIJC had a drug-free labour as if that could be compared to abstaining from alcohol, then you went off on a tangent about your panic attacks. I'm just saying for many people I don't think the two things are comparable.

oo starlight just read your profile- good luck! And watch out for that pethidine

... and anyway, labour doesn't last very long, does it? Get over it, people, and stop being so SELFISH! Why risk the well being of your unborn baby for an entire lifetime just so you don't have to suffer for a few hours?and yes, I know that some women labour for days. It's sarcastic licence.

Look, Backgammon, you jumped in in the middle of a thread are steered it back into the same ol', same ol' circle it's already gone through.

"and do you know most women?"

PMSL!

If you're going to come on and write a bunch of sanctimonious comments about how you would never dare touch ANY drugs because they could be harmful for your baby, well, then, are we not allowed to wonder if you really mean no drugs at all?

Groundhog day!

Oh I'm sorry for "jumping in to a thread" did I need to be here from the start then?

I posted a while back asking for the benefits of drinking in pregnancy mentioned by some posters but none have been forthcoming so far.

Yes, it's funny, Backgammon, because you wrote 'most women'.

Well, that assumes you know most women.

Funny that.

She wasn't "sanctimonious" she just explained her viewpoint, why get so touchy about what PIJC chose to do in pregnancy?

Hope I didn't come across as sanctamonious re no drug taking as I did take pains (drug free ones!! lol) to ensure I put it was a personal choice...

it's not a case of following guidelines blind, but of basic common sense. just as i could see the risk with runny eggs, i can see the risk with alcohol - if you choose to have a drink or 2 go right ahead, but the RCM also says alcohol introduces and element of doubt and risk, which was my original point. i think having a DC is stressful enough without retrospectively worrying about what you did or didn't do

suey2 - guidelines changing while you're pg, i would have hated that, and no of course don't spend the rest of your pg feeling bad

as backgammon says, not drinking is hardly difficult.

'why get so touchy about what PIJC chose to do in pregnancy? '

Probably for the same reason you're getting so touchy about what other, random women are doing in their pregnancies.

I haven't read all of this as it went of in a mental competitive tangent but think that you should do whatever relaxes you and in moderation.
I've never understood the smugness or one upmanship surrounding a drug free labour but that's just me.
Not very mumsnet but I just tried to get through it as best I could and as the situation demanded.

I don't think Puss was sanctimonious either, Backgammon.

But the point about lumping paracetamol, alcohol, and crack cocaine together, whilst accepting pain relief during labour, is a valid one and worth exploring, don't you think?

Why do we draw the lines we draw?

Eh? How am I getting touchy about what other pregnant women do? I couldn't care less and haven't commented on anyone else. I just happened to disagree with a point you made.

Exactly, almostblue.

Well stated.

btw, that last sentence wasn't linked to my comment to you suey2

backgammon iirc the benefits are the same for red wine in general: anti oxidants, lowering of cholesterol and relaxation resulting in lowering of bp

You could of course, argue that in labour we are hardly in possession of our faculties to make any choices, let alone those of the drug variety...hell, after three days of a back labour I was screaming for an epidural and yelled to the room in general 'I pay my f'ing tax where is the doctor' and I'm normally Mrs Polite!

Make of that what you will....

G&A gave me the boak, Starlight.

G&A gave me the boak, Starlight.

Rightyho; so during pregnancy, we're not sensible enough to comprehend the difference between moderate and binge drinking and make an informed choice accordingly... and during labour, we're so overwhelmed by pain and exhaustion that we're also incapable of making an informed choice.

Meaning that we spend nine months abstaining unnecessarily; and the final few hours pumping ourselves full of anything that will get us through the pain.

...sometimes it's harrrrrd tuh be a woman....

Pmsl Blue