In thinking mother and baby places should not be used by those without children not pregnant etc and then laugh about it treating it as a joke!!

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PILs park in the mother and baby space all the time as a matter of course using the fact they have a child seat in there as an excuse!! Never take my dcs shopping never why would they? That is very very unreasonable imo and makes me ! They have been challanged about it and they say they make a joke about they left the kids at home!
Observant ones will notice I put this on another thread but then thought it deserves an aibu in its own right iyswim!

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Could just park like this?

Anon, I cannot believe you suggested leaving the baby in the car whilst I get a trolley! I wouldn't leave my son alone in a car for a second! I also prefer not to run with him in the sling so would prefer not to sprint across the car park if I can help it. I have said all along that the issue is space around the car - the location doesn't bother me. I need extra space to get the baby out and into the buggy or sling, whichever I'm using - I also believe the extra space makes it a bit safer. And sorry but I'm not hiring a babysitter, going at midnight or becoming housebound over using a P&C space. Presumaly you're also all for abolishing baby change areas as disabled toilets? Surely that's a little luxury we can all do without as well.

It does get me a bit, when us precious mums should just shop online...it's an easy suggestion...so....doesn't the same then count for those that are disabled/have disabled family members,too....!
Not that I am suggesting they should...but it's always brought up in the case against p&t places...so, it should work both ways?

When we lived in an area where shops were to far away I used to do online shopping....but...I did find that you would get almost out of date produce and stuff....so, that was really annoying...and I kinda like to pick the things I want to buy myself...

Sorry, DS doesn't fit under my coat. Should I start buying coats 2 sizes too large or can I just be allowed to use an umbrella?

Park next to the trolley park? They are dotted all over the carpark. Lock the car? Or better still carry/walk with baby/toddler to the store with you and pick up a trolley at front of store?

Gangle - you're being a teensy bit precious. You do realise that don't you? What do you think will happen to your PFB if you leave him in a locked car for a minute while you go and get a trolley? And if the location isn't the problem, then why don't you park further away from the supermarket at the back of the car park where there are loads of spaces and it doesn't matter how you park?

P&T spaces are a luxury. Yes I park in them if there is one, but i don't sweat it if there isn't! I certainly wouldn't compare them to changing facilities which are a matter of hygiene (although i have changed ds in some weird an wonderful places - that's down to our hobo lifestyle though! )

but gangle, if it is the extra space, then you could just park in an area where no one else parks?
Like I said, when I just had the one/or when I just went out with one of mine p&t parking was never important to me!

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How about this for stress free shopping?

What if there are no spaces next to the trolley park? Still wouldn't leave DS in a car, locked or unlocked. I do walk with DS to pick up a trolley - just explaining, again, that I wouldn't leave him alone in the car to get a trolley.

But why wouldn't you leave him in the car? What on earth do you think will happen to him in the minute or less it takes you to get a trolley?!?!?

3andnomore - I'm struggling to see the link in the scenarios between handling a child around the supermarket that cannot walk, and getting a small baby out of the back of a car .

As it happens I do shop online, or go to the supermarket in the evenings when dd is in bed. If I was a lone parent, and couldn't get to the supermarket in the evenings, then yes, I would use online shopping.

This thread really is getting hysterical (well, hysterically funny ).

I'm finding it vvvveeeeeerrrrry interesting. Am remembering how i was when ds was tiny. And cringing.

what's happened to this thread? It was about parking spaces and now it seems to be heading towards 'my child might get abducted if I leave him for 30 seconds in a locked car' territory .

lol at beanieb and TSD.

chonky, what I meant was parents that get annoyed about p&t issues are, in every hread about it, told to just shop online.....so, the same would go for disabled people, doesn't it...they could also shop online then.
I am just saying it isn't really an argument....not that I would expect anyone to shop online....

Obviously there is a huge difference between dealing wiht daily life when having a disabled family member and having a Baby....there is no comparison at all....
not sure if I am making myself clear

Can those who comment please read the entire thread? The places I go to don't seem to have this glut of free spaces at the back. And no SuburbanDryad, I don't think I am being precious in the least. I think most of this thread is about people who enjoy martyring themselves. Yes they're not essential but they make life a bit easier and can sometimes turn a horrific shopping excursion into an ok one. I certainly didn't begrudge anyone using them before I had a child, infact, I didn't even know they existed about 2 weeks ago when I noticed them and thought what a great idea!

Gangle, do you never fill your car with petrol?
Park next to the trolley park, or if you are right the other side of one of these enormous 10 mile car parks then you should lots of room around you for slings, pushchairs & whatever else.

When all the disabled spaces & p&t spaces are full (as they frequently are) I have to find somewhere where i can lift my very large 5 yr old in to his w/chair. I push his w/chair & my 8 ys old walks by my side until we get to the s/market entrance when he pushes the trolley.

And no I don't think all baby changing should be abolished, you do need somewhere reasonable clean to change a baby, I just can't see that a wide space exclusively for parents with young children needs to be at the front of the car park. Disabled spaces do because many disabled drivers & passenger have limited mobility or understanding.

no gangle - just move baby change out of the disabled toilets as I am fed up with waiting for some babies nappy to be changed whilst my child with special needs is wetting herself cause we can't get into the toilet.

By expatinscotland on Sat 23-Aug-08 22:24:58
I think all parent and child bays should be abolished entirely, actually, and replaced with disabled bays.

Every last one of them.

I also think retailers should start contracting with private tow companies and tow away all vehicles that park in disabled bays with no blue badge.

i totally agree with this and think that there should be a large charge to get your car back which would then be split among several charities.

hit the ignorant feckers where it hurts most.

Hedge, does it surprise you, by the responses on this thread, that it is that way?

I think there maybe should be a rule, to say, that if all disabled bays are full, then a disabled badge user should be able to use P7T wihtout getting hassled....because, of course peference should be given to those that need them the most...

But - Gangle - I'm trying not to be harsh or confrontational. But what do you think will happen to your ds if you leave him in a locked car for less than a minute while you get yourself sorted with a trolley (assuming you always remember to put the handbrake on!)?

I agree - P&T spaces are a convenience. As are buggy friendly buses, cubicles in public toilets that can also fit a buggy in, bottle warmers in supermarkets and other such child-friendly, labour saving innovations that we enjoy in today's world. But you have to be prepared that sometimes there won't be these lovely things - and that they are a privilege not a right. I'm not about martyring myself to my children - quite the opposite in fact. My dc know that they fit themselves around me, to a certain extent, and if that means waiting in the car while i go pay for petrol, or get a trolley at the supermarket, or any other thing, then so be it!