In thinking mother and baby places should not be used by those without children not pregnant etc and then laugh about it treating it as a joke!!

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PILs park in the mother and baby space all the time as a matter of course using the fact they have a child seat in there as an excuse!! Never take my dcs shopping never why would they? That is very very unreasonable imo and makes me ! They have been challanged about it and they say they make a joke about they left the kids at home!
Observant ones will notice I put this on another thread but then thought it deserves an aibu in its own right iyswim!

Gangle - I have to cope with a loo floor - or the boot of my car, as baby changing stations aren't big enough for my disabled 5 year old

the p&t parking spaces are often near the shop for safety...because you have to handle , often, toddlers and Baby's...

of course p&t are luxury, whilst disabled parking is a neccessety...but, that doesn't mean p7t has always got to be slagged of so badly, I suppose....

obviously it is terrible that people with disabled children get sneers and whatnot for parking where they rightfully should be...it should not be happening....and tbh...I can't believe people aRE THAT SAD...i MEAN, I believe you...but find it incredable sad....

Juule, I haven't said I wouldn't - I've just said that it makes life easier and that I believe they serve a purpose. If I'm so lazy explain to me how I'm now 7 lbs below my pre-pregnancy weight and have tendonitis in my wrists and ankles apparently caused by overuse? It's not about the walk to the shop (I walk several miles a day with the buggy) it's about space around your car (an old peugeot 206, not a people carrier!) and people being aware it's a P&C area so they need to be extra careful. And I don't carry with my anything than isn't necessary.

why do people get so upset abiout this.
it is short term problem. not a life long problem?

Spot on, Sleepycat.

well...personally, now I don't get my knickers in a twist anymore...because, for me now it is not relevant...
however, if friends would suggest to park in their for ease and to not walk as far, I would probably still say, that I prefer to walk the distance...because safety issues now do not apply to me....obviously different if friend wold have children that make it advisable to use p&t parking...but that is a given.

I do remember though, getting very worked up about it all when Kids were little...because it was ust a nightmare to take them shopping and not always an option to shop online....but that was mainly down to ms being a runner and a fast one and unsafe...and ys just tiring me out by being the most high needs Baby I had encountered, and quite simply at the time was just knackered and fed up and rather hormonal and depressed and little things like that did matter....

i agree. all spaces should be the same size then we wouldn't have this problem!! i have hardly ever had a problem getting ds in and out of normal spaces but perhaps it is more difficult for larger people. i'd never really given it much thought tbh until today.

And why do people with disabilities get so uppity about P&T spaces? Yes, it p*s me off when someone has parked in a disabled bay without a blue badge, or has clearly 'borrowed' someone elses badge, but P&T spaces don't annoy me at all. They have a place in a car park, just like disabled spaces.

or there could just be P&C spaces, what's the friggin difference? I didn't need the space when I was child free! And what about nappy change areas - should they go as well on the basis they could be a disabled toilet?

Think you may have opened a can of worms there Gangle!!!

would you all hate me if i started the 3rd P&C thread of tonight

so come on how many moany threads do you see about people parking in disabled bays, when theshouldn't. no where near as many as people moaning abot p&t ones
it is BORING

It can be really difficult to get a blue badge even if you are actually disabled (some areas won't given them unless you have DLA, and often DLA claims seem to be rejected first time on principle). And you still need to eat during the months after becoming disabled.

Given that, I wonder if the OP's in-laws find they need the extra space in the P+C/disabled spaces but quite rightly aren't parking in the disabled spaces because they don't have a badge?

You can't get temporary blue badges either unlike in some countries. Which is a right bugger and I'm just glad Mr Tesco is happy to deliver me food atm.

hm, 2shoes...if it is such an issue, why don't people moan about it? Or is it possible that (rightly so) there is a badge needed to park in disabled places therefore there is less likelyhood of people, not needing to park in them to park there? Whilst p&c spaces are all for the fun it, apperently?

IMO, people don't give a stuff whether they park in P&C or disabled bays (those that shouldn't be parking in either I mean)
People who abuse parking spaces don't care which spaces they are abusing IYKWIM

I actually parked in a parent and child space the other day for the first time since ds was really small. But I am 8.5 months pregnant, ds wasn't with me and I was with my mother but I felt really nauseous and couldn't face a big walk. No one seemed to mind, and my mother was saying I should. I did feel like a parent and child, it's just my child is thumping my bladder and making me want to vomit. As opposed to actually being in a car seat.

In our local Sainsbury's loads of people without children park in the bays, it does slightly piss me off. But loads of people park in the disabled bays too.

I wouldn't get rid of parents and child parking only because people drive too quickly everywhere and children are vulnerable and can run off etc.

there is that of course, Nat

if people would use their common sense more then there would be no discussion, would there

This whole subject 'does my head in'. If I park in a normal space, I always park on the line on the right side of the car, allowing me better access to Tom on the left. But you always get some numpty who parks really close so that when you come back, you can't get the door open to get Tom in. Someone even parked right up my bum and I had to sit on their bonnet to get the boot open!

I just wish ALL car park spaces could be made wider (as many cars are becoming wider as well). Small wonder many doors get knocked.

And what's all this with having car parks spaces where you have to drive straight in, why can't they all be angled in a herringbone pattern?. Having such spaces would make parking for ALL much easier.

god there are LOADS of disabled bays at our local sainsbury's and theyare always always empty....make some more of them parent and toddler i say. all this martyrdom of i managed with a 100 bloody kids and no head is so boring, if it helps make shopping less stressful then i am all for it!

I'm amazed at how much help some of you need to go about your daily business.

And I'm sniggering at the 'stuff' that is needed to complete a shopping trip.

You're going into a supermarket for 40 minutes- you don't need to take 5 nappies, a snack, change of clothes, drink - or an umbrella! Doctor husband should be able to confirm that you won't get a cold by getting wet!

Scrap the bloody things- they cause more blood pressure problems than they save. They're not particularly safe imo because the roads around them are cluttered up with princesses parents waiting to use them with an eye fixed on who might be leaving. Far safer to park at the back and fetch a trolley.

And I frequently can't get a disabled space when with ds1- (so I park in P&T if there is one). The lack of disabled space can cause me bigger problems that not being able to get a P&T with the other 2.

And they won't reduce the number of disabled spaces because a certain number have to be provided legally. It's about access. Disabled spaces are required for some people to access the store at all. Princess P&T spaces are provided for parents who like to feel a little bit special (and so they'll go back to that supermarket and spend all their oodles of cash on family shopping). Don't confuse marketing with need.