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to think that if scotland and ireland where independent countries we can all pay at least half the amount of tax.

150 replies

bluegreysky · 18/08/2008 16:51

in england we would all be better off as we wouldn't need to pay anywhere near as much tax, to support scotland and ireland's finacial dependence.

im sick of the way they bleat on about wanting to be there own country and independent.
and the scotish kids getting uni free, funded by us etc.

what do you think?

OP posts:
stleger · 18/08/2008 20:41

Isn't Budgens owned by Musgraves from Cork now?

KerryMum · 18/08/2008 20:42

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BreeVanderCampLGJ · 18/08/2008 20:47

StL

We are going to Chez Youen...can't wait.

When we were children thirty odd years ago, the grown ups went without us.

Now the children are grown up and the adults(GPs) will be minding the childrens children.

expatinscotland · 18/08/2008 20:48

we're determined to save up and go to Cork next year.

we don't care if it chucks the rain the entire time.

that's what it does here anyhow .

stleger · 18/08/2008 20:49

Oh Kerry re pizza and weather etc. Youen has a new place overlooking the harbour too, very seafoody.

chipmonkey · 18/08/2008 20:56

Bree, you'll be fine! I can truthfully state that all the rain available fell on the N3 last week, cue me with 4 kids in the car driving through the deepest flood I have ever seen, like a river! They closed the road 10 minutes later.

KerryMum · 18/08/2008 21:13

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chipmonkey · 18/08/2008 21:18

I think it was Nostradamus who predicted that just before the world ended, Ireland would sink into the sea. It's happening, girls......

fledtoscotland · 19/08/2008 10:17

does my name say it all! i actually hope we do get independence from England (and you can keep Gordon Brown) with comments like that

Gateau · 19/08/2008 10:46

Which part of Ireland do you mean, OP? Or don't you know? If it's Northern Ireland, then you are talking about something you clearly know nothing about.
You sound very ignorant to me.

roseability · 19/08/2008 10:56

LOL at 'bleating on about wanting to be there own country'

Great grasp of the english language

HereComeTheGirls · 19/08/2008 10:59

"im sick of the way they bleat on about wanting to be there own country"

I wasn't aware that everyone in Scotland was a Scottish Nationalist.

janinlondon · 19/08/2008 11:00

I think the question might more accurately be whether the English want their own parliament (70% do apparently)...

kiskidee · 19/08/2008 11:02

DH lived about 8 yrs in Scotland and got a bit of Scottish Nationalism. He voted SNP while up there because if they want their own country, well then they can bloody well have it.

Whenever he was having his ear bent in a pub about it, he pointed out how he voted and it never failed to shut up the drunk nationalist.

WilfSell · 19/08/2008 11:04

Ah, the West Lothian question was sure to surface sooner or later.

and [yawn emoticon]

HereComeTheGirls · 19/08/2008 11:05

what do you mean "if THEY want their own country"? I am Scottish and am not a nationalist and would not welcome independence.

Making assumptions about an entire race of people having the same opinion is pretty overt racism and rather ignorant.

WilfSell · 19/08/2008 11:06

sorry to be a Pedant but Scottish is not a 'race'

HereComeTheGirls · 19/08/2008 11:07

sorry..nation...consider my hand smacked.

I'd just never say "all English people are Tories so lets privatise everything and give them what they want."

sherbetdipdab · 19/08/2008 11:11

Just thought of how it would be to be under the power of Alec Salmond, not a nice thought. Maybe we should stay as we are, under Gordon Brown, oh ehm, maybe not.......

cremolafoam · 19/08/2008 11:13

FO troll

mayorquimby · 19/08/2008 11:22

"sorry to be a Pedant but Scottish is not a 'race' "

ha ha was just about to post exactly the same thing. misuse of the term racism as a catch all for every prejudice gets my goat too.

SilkCutMama · 19/08/2008 11:25

SCM takes wrong turn into this thread

I'll shut the door behind me

Tortington · 19/08/2008 11:30

just read the whole thing, and i thought this could have been a great debate but everyone it seems took umbridge from the off.

people are allowed to be ignorant of basic facts - discuss them and then on.

i have little more than sod all knowledge of how the union works and how the economy is divided and who bankrolls who.

i did assume that the oil was a major conributing factor though.

With nothing but distant memories of anectdotal evidence, i was seriously under the impression that the union was nothing more than a farce, and that each wanted its independance - although unlikley totally.

am not sure why we can't discuss this, it would certainly enlighten me. I for one feel v. blessed that there are lots of astute mumsnetters who are patient with me and able to explain things.

sometimes the occasional person gets wanky - but there is always the nice ones too.

shame that, could have been a good debate

My unkowledgable standpoint.

if the rest of the union want independance let them - but do they? i dunno - but if they do - let them.

the university thing is appaulling. it shouldn't be free in scotland and have to pay here - thats outragous.

not sure what the channel tunnel thing is about and what that relates to if i am honest.

i am under the impression that non english unionites have a history of major pissed offness and want independance - where the hell do i get this idea?

my mother was a hippie, i never buy newspapers except the guardian.

i dont have a telly.... so why do i have this impression?
i dunno

so dya not want independance then?

megcleary · 19/08/2008 11:32

have we been invaded again!!!!!!!

Tortington · 19/08/2008 11:34

who is we - are you scottish - are us english not welcome here anymore - i didn't realise this was a scottish board

(sorry compltely taking piss)

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