To go in my own garden at 8am with a 2 year old?

[crokky]

I need to know if I have been a bad neighbour - honest answers please

So...we have a small garden overlooked by 5 other houses. After DS (age 2) and DD (4 months) went to bed last night, me and DH put together a plastic mini slide and cube thingy (about 1m x 1m plus slide, so not massive) for DS and put it in the garden. This morning DS saw it from the kitchen window and immediately said "SLIDE!! SHOES!!" and went to find his shoes to go outside. So I let him, it was 8am and he was not shrieking or anything like that. Cue naked neighbour man at bedroom window with very angry face. [Our baby wasn't crying or anything]. Am I supposed to stay indoors until a certain time?

And another question...am I being an idiot?...there are little mushrooms coming up through the grass (just plain grass in middle of garden, no other plants etc) - are they poisonous? Not planning on eating them or anything but just want to know as chidren rolling around in garden? We didn't have a garden at last place so am a total dummy with this sort of stuff.

Our milkman comes in a very noisy old van (we are out in the sticks so no electric floats) at 4 AM! He always manages to wake me up and all the neighbours for miles around.#
Wish he would get himself a new van.

Not too early. When dd was little and we'd been up all night, we were often finally asleep by 8am and I had to listen to hoardes of children on their way to school. Or the bloke with the very noisy scooter that badly needs attention spluttering down the road at 7.30am. Any day except Sunday is fair game after 8am I think.

The bin men MUST make more noise than your 2-yo and they are often in our street at dawn's crack. I wouldn't think twice about letting my child out at that time, unless I knew my next door neighbour was on nightshift.

The children I nanny for are usually out in the garden when I arrive in the morning 8am - as are their next door neighbours

The council say noise is only unreasonable between 11pm and 7am, although they did deal with the chap who was playing music at 7am so loudly it was waking people up across the street (all concerned having windows shut and double-glazed).

8am is reasonable but many neighbours might appreciate it if noise didn't start until say 9, especially on weekends.

Do you know I have never even considered what time my children are in ther garden What a bad neighbour I must be!!!!

My two are usually out before breakfast 7am/ 7.30am but they are 7 and 3 so maybe slightly less noisy. But no one has ever commented on them being out or anything. Our bin men come at 7.30am every Monday and they make much more noise than my two (most of the time!)

OMG do you think I should go and apologise to my neighbours????? The house is detatched and we back on to woodland so maybe I could be forgiven a little???????

The noise made by children doesn't class as a noise nuisance, I don't think.
I don't think you should aplologise to him.

YANBU 8am on a weekday is fine.

You could complain to the council or some other authority about your neighbour
flashing at you and your ds though.

YANBU - I would complain to neighbour about his nakedness
As long as neighbour(s) don't work nightshifts then I would not have a problem with children being in the garden at that time. As many have said, others make far more noise ie bin men, milk men, cars/vans etc etc.
Neighbours must know you have children so if there was an issue then it's up to him/them to mention it ie if he works nights...tho you said that children weren't making noise?I say better they're outside making lovely noises ie laughing than stuck inside making horrid noises ie shrieking and crying - my DS would have torn the house apart and the whole street would have known about it, if he'd have woken to see a lovely slide in the garden but then had to wait to play!

to OP:

YANBU.

'Off you fuck' would have been an appropriate response to him.

Do you think would he have said anything if it was your dh with him in the garden?

Okay, croky, this will make you feel better.

DS4yo was born shouting. In the mornings, he's often out in the garden before we head off to school. If he spots the wrong shoes on someone else's feet, or a toy of his moved wrongly, or (whatever) he shouts about it. In fact, he may scream and have a right paddy. Especially if he's just fallen over and scraped his knee.

This may occur before 8am.
And my poor neighbours get it most the year.
Neighbours all are up early -- have little kids/work early hours/frankly it's daylight and we all have big houses with big gardens so it's not RIGHT under anyone else's bedroom.

I put up with their teenage boom boxes Fiesta bass lines shaking my windows occasionally, you've got to have a bit of give and take.

8am is a bit early.

I think 8am is fine

I think anything before 7.30am would be too early and anything after 10.30pm would be too late.

8am no problem. I live by a working men's club and have to suffer the awful karaoke at full blast til 11pm in the evening, now that's annoying!!

Even if I weas having a lie in due to working at the weekend or late or something I wouldn't bat an eyelid at kids in a garden.

I'll keep DS out of the garden before 8am when the chap next door stops playing his drums after midnight. So there.

To be honest I think 8am is more than reasonable. If you are a family with children that are awake from 6am why keep them couped up indoors on a nice morning just in case it upsets the neighbours. If they don't like it they can always wear earplugs.

8am is fine - had a rather weird builder who would start at 07:30

belgo - it is so easy to get lost in Belgium! I did for about 4 hours! All those Flemish signs...