to be fed up of seeing eco propaganda on Cbeebies??

[scottishmum007]

just wondering if it's me, but it's starting to get nauseating now hearing and seeing all this eco friendly this eco friendly that every minute of the day on Cbeebies.
Nina and Neurons used to be brilliant and then it turned into Nina and the Neurons - GO ECO!!!

I'm all for helping save the planet, but fgs, chill out with the eco friendly stuff, it's bordering on brainwashing.

YANBU-you only have to read this thread to see that even the parents are being brainwashed about all this lets all be green and save the planet bollocks stuff.

tv for pre-schoolers should be for entertainment and nothing else.they have the rest of their lives to be brainwashed.

YANBU I found it quite amazing how, even after a week's intensive eco studies at school recently, a neighbour's child came out with the gem that "you recycle paper to save the polar bears".

Am not quite sure how dumbed down science and easy-listening sound bites is supposed to help.

But it's not brainwashing-we do have a responsibilty to our planet

It bothers me in general actually - I am sick to death of hearing about it and I'm not that convinced either.

Yes, we do have a responsibility. But there's also an awful lot of TOSH out there under the banner of being "green". We'd do a hell of a lot better teaching our children decent science and critical thinking.

But even those of you who are not convinced-what harm does it do to recycle and care for the environment?

but i just think that anybody who comes out with things like 'we have a responsibility to our planet' has been brainwashed

(though hopefully not by cbeebies)

Chill out. It's not like they're pushing drugs or politics is it?

Except recycling is just a logical thing to do - I have no problem with that.

What really pees me off is 'have you brought your own bags?' at the checkout - no I fecking haven't! I use carrier bags as bin liners and if I didn't then I'd use my own 'green' shopping bags and then BUY bin liners so some how, some way I'm going to use blardy bin liners to put rubbish in!

Oops, sorry, off at a bit of a tangent there...

No harm to recycle and care for the environment (providing it's based on real science and making a real difference and not just something to "look good" without any real effect).

A lot of harm by having a constant agenda on television shows aimed at pre-school children (or, I would argue, children under the age of about 7 or 8). Whether it's for plastic-figure merchandising, junk food, healthy eating, political messages or green messages.

Sure have the occasional weekly special or a few programs on it. Just not every frickin' one all the frickin' time.

I haven't been brainwashed, I have felt like this long before cbeebies became a part of my life.
I am perfectly capable of making a rational decision regarding the planet-no brainwashing necessary!
I actually find the attitudes on this thread a little worrying.
Get connected people

I was just complaining to DH the other day about the awful green balloon song - "we are the children of tomorrow" FFS - no, you're the children of today.

I'm a bit of a greeny weirdy myself, but I find it all a bit much to be honest. Stuff about switching off lights and not leaving the tap running I can understand, but the best message that they could send is that we all don't need so much stuff and the cynic in me says that they aren't going to plug that message with all the Underground Ernie T-shirts and Night Garden dolls to flog.

The media in general is very sympathetic to the climate change agenda. Obviously there are very strong arguments for it, but it is the trendy issue "de nos jours" and one often gets the feeling it is being done for the wrong reasons. It also ignores the fact that the reason it's still such a hotly debated issue is that scientists are more-or-less evenly divided on the subject.

Totally agree, Rubber Duck. Teach them the science to understand the issues -- not trendy slogans.

UQD - exactly. I don't doubt 'climate change' for one moment. I seriously doubt we actually have anything to do with it though.

Although, as I say, it's logical to waste less and recycle anyway - it's just...efficient isn't it, not to waste, if for no other reason than that I do recycle adn think about waste.

"'climate change'... I seriously doubt we actually have anything to do with it though"

you're kidding me...?

The term "climate change" itself makes me laugh. Of course it's bloody changing. That's the whole point of nature. Thinks don't stay exactly the same. Ever.

Also is a nice catch all term... if it gets hotter or colder "see, we told you it would change!"

No, I'm not kidding. I'm not the only one that's unconvinced either.

To clarify what I meant, surely you don't think we can cover the planet in concrete and tar, cut down vast swathes of natural vegetation, bury tonnes of rubbish under the ground etc and fill the atmosphere with shed loads of pollution from cars, planes etc and not do some damage??

Isn't most of our recycled plastic simply shipped off to somewhere in Asia and burnt / dumped in landfill?

A couple of interesting links which are not the kind of thing one normally hears about climate change...

For lots of reasons I don't think that we have caused the change in climate that we are seeing at the moment, no. It's too late to get into and I'm supposed to be working, but I've had lots of discussions with people about it and plenty of people actually agree - I was quite surprised really. It's almost a bit odd to admit you just don't buy it as most people really do believe it so I have been surprised by the number of people that I know that feel the same. Of course I accept I could be completely wrong, particularly as so many people think the opposite, but I need a lot more convincing.

The reainforests are cut down at the rate of one and a half acres a second.
Do you have to be brainwashed to be shocked by that?