to be fed up of seeing eco propaganda on Cbeebies??

[scottishmum007]

just wondering if it's me, but it's starting to get nauseating now hearing and seeing all this eco friendly this eco friendly that every minute of the day on Cbeebies.
Nina and Neurons used to be brilliant and then it turned into Nina and the Neurons - GO ECO!!!

I'm all for helping save the planet, but fgs, chill out with the eco friendly stuff, it's bordering on brainwashing.

[kittywise]

Of course yabu, but you know that.

[mimi03]

that green balloon club song makes me want to vomit.

[Tippychick]

That makes you one of the Everyday Folk divastrop.

[divastrop]

ah,so it was the wombles who brainwashed you lot.i never watched it myself

[Tippychick]

Explain how the recycling message is a politial agenda again? FGS, Cbeebies aren't showing Tory party broadcasts, they're just banging on about saving water, recyling,growing fruit and veg, picking up litter etc. Much as Wombles, Parsley etc did back in the Days of Yore. If it is hypocritical of the Beeb, which I agree it may be, so what - it's still a valid message.

Or maybe you're right and they should stop it all. And stop all that nonsense about washing hands and cleaning teeth too - our children don't need to be brainwashed with all that political personal hygiene agenda right?

The song is a bit much though, have to agree there. It oddly reminds me of the CocaCola advert where they all sing on a mountain top, praps not the message we need

[scottishmum007]

lol georgiemama. I know, it's such a nauseating song. and i still can't find that ballonist's age (Skye). she must be at least 18, me and DH saw it earlier on Cbeebies and agreed she must be an adult at least.

[georgiemama]

MrsTittleMouse, I know this is going to appear much further down thread, but YES YES YES, they are the children of today, not tomorrow, the unfertilised eggs in the little girls' ovaries, those are the children of tomorrow. THAT is what I hate about that blardy song (that and the gap between that child's teeth)

[scottishmum007]

bump for the evening crowd

[scottishmum007]

for luuuking and seeeing

[scottishmum007]

probably Luke.

[pippibluestocking]

Can't bear GBC - it irritates the hell out of me.

Thought Nina looked a tad porky the other day and was wondering whether she had been impregnated by a neuron - if so, which one do you think?

[divastrop]

cory-i dont have a problem with 'messages' like be kind to animals and dont pick on those who are different and share your toys etc etc but the 'green' thing isnt a message its a political agenda and shouldnt be rammed down the throats of children anymore than religion and such.

i have locacted the off switch,as well as the channel lock facility,and prefer to use the DVD player these days

[JT]

well there were no carbon emissions during the Ice Age for example, didn't make a jot of difference.

Climate change - yes
we can stop it? ask Canute

[TheCrackFox]

FWIW - I do recycle, I can't drive, grow our own fruit and veg etc.

However, Cbeebies has been doing my head in recently. They have gone overboard. They never seem to tell the kids they don't need half as much toys, do they? Oh, that would dent their profits from all the plastic tat that they endorse.

Unfortunately it only gets worse as they get older. I have no idea how children sleep at night after watching Newsround. It is all doom and gloom along the lines of "if you don't recycle all the polar bears will die".

[scottishmum007]

I've tried doing a search on Debbie Korley, the woman who is part of the Green Balloon Club but no success on finding out her age. Anyone else got a clue? she's starred in a few different dramas and theatre productions.

[SummatAnNowt]

That is my rough remembrance of the book, obviously we only read it once!

[scottishmum007]

true rubberduck. that's something I honestly hadn't considered (my DS is 14mo) and will do now for the future. You would think that most books for kids wouldn't have such a strong message behind it that could evoke such strong emotion.
my DH thinks it's wrong though that on children's TV alot of the programmes now can't show sad/unhappy (realistic??) endings - like using guns in a cartoon. It used to be accepted but now it's not, frowned upon by many because it may upset children or teach them to be violent perhaps??
We can't wrap them up in cottonwool sadly, it's a big bad world out there. They learn it soon enough.

[SummatAnNowt]

Oh yes, same with 3 Fishing Brother's Gruff, they pollute their own fishing place then beat up a whale to go somewhere nice and pollute that place so the whale comes back and they all meet bad fates, including drowning. DS (4) couldn't understand why the whale was supposed to be the good guy!

[RubberDuck]

It isn't just children's TV that can have inappropriate messages though. Ds2 got the book "My Friend Whale" as a present from nursery one year. Foolishly didn't read it through first - looked age appropriate to me. Was a lovely book right up until the end where the whale is killed by whalers. Well that went down well.

Now, I'm all for protecting endangered whales, but that was completely utterly inappropriate for a 3 year old and very upsetting at the time.

Lesson learned, I always pre-vet books, even ones that look perfectly safe.

[cory]

divastrop on Wed 16-Jul-08 21:23:57
"YANBU-you only have to read this thread to see that even the parents are being brainwashed about all this lets all be green and save the planet bollocks stuff.

tv for pre-schoolers should be for entertainment and nothing else.they have the rest of their lives to be brainwashed. "

When I was young, an awful lots of children's entertainment carried messages, too, usually on the lines of "be kind to animals". Was this too political brainwashing? If not, why not. Discuss. Personally, I have never had a problem with the messages on children's TV. I have located the off switch.

[scottishmum007]

thanks to all of those who see where I'm coming from. i'm not completely neurotic after all (well - maybe just a weee bit!).

i never said that the eco message shouldn't be on tv, all i'm saying is Cbeebies needs to tone it down a bit, they are ramming it in kids faces. it's not right, they should have a mix of normal kids programmes with and without the eco brainwashing.

sorry guys, i couldn't get online last night, DH was hogging the PC

[Ivegotaheadache]

I thought Nina and the Neurons was always called that? Did it used to be Nina and Neurons? Bit strange.

Anyway, I do the whole recycling thing and it is good though it would be a hell of a lot better if there wasn't so much packaging in the first place.

The climate is changing, but then it's always changed and I'm not convinced that we are the ones to blame for it.
Yes, conserve energy because at some point the fossil fuels will run out, but all this global warming hysteria has got a bit out of hand.

[ChukkyPig]

Top post SummatAnNowt, very nicely put.

[SummatAnNowt]

YANBU! It's a load of brainwashing!

And the sad thing is that I agree with being environmentally friendly but it's just full-on on Cbeebies.

It also seems that the message to children, in school as well, is reduced down to just recycle. Like my friend's daughter harrasses her mum about recycling, but there's nothing about not buying the things in the first place or about the energy needed to recycle. Or the truth about chopping down rainforests, which includes such things as a meat-heavy western diet, the global economy, and now, eco-fuels.

Cbeebies doesn't really do much less than what's peddled to most adults which is more about soundbites than reality, so I suppose that's why it annoys me so much, because of what it represents.