To think nursery staff should'nt stink of stale cigarettes?

[Sushipaws]

As an ex-smoker I know I can be a bit anti-smoking, but purely from a health point of view.

I don't care if people want to smoke when they're not looking after my child but when I pick my dd up the room manager smells like an ashtray and it's unpleasant and unhealthy.

Am I being unreasonable or justified in wanting her to wash her hands and change her jumper after she's had a fag?

maybe it has something to do with where she's smoking. if she's doing it outside the nursery like she's supposed to she shouldn't really smell that bad.

perhaps she'd had one in her car before she bumped into you so she was out of sight of the building altogether incase any of the mum's seen her.and you just happened to meet her directly after she had one.
if it's a one off incident you could put it down to bad timing that she hadn't had a chance for some fresh air to circulate her a wee bit.

im laughing i recently phoned a consultant,but not at desk so popped outside there he was having a fag

god i do hope he wasntt smoking with the lower orders

what if class is contagious?he might drop his vowels and develop a glottal stop

katie you're a hoot,your archaic and gross generalisations about class.

People who smoke do smell rank, it's true.

If you smell, someone out there is not going to like it and may complain whether you smell of old burgers, fags or plain old B.O. All are equivalently vile to smell on someone.

Kids will more than likely be very blunt and say, "Yuck. You stink,"

I don't think it's very professional to stink of anything whether you're a GP, a teacher, a nursery nurse or a policeman. Toothbrushes, clean hands and mints at the ready.

YANBU.

yuk, i hate people who stink of BO

how hard is it to use some deodarant! you press a button. wow! really hard.

Most of my teachers at school stank of BO, cigarettes, alcohol (after lunch) and had stale coffee breath. Didn't affect me in any way apart from now discreetly sniffing people when they admit to being a teacher..

my primary teachers smelt of cheap perfume and fags.Secondary fags and alcohol and BO

It's not really about affecting per se. It's about not stinking. If you're going to work with other people, surely it's better not to smell offensively?

We used to have memos going around about various members of staff who smelled. It's not good around clients either.

I think the problem is that the smelly person doesn't notice their smell - they just get used to it. My DH really doesn't understand my continual pleas for him to stop smoking because he stinks - he says he can't smell it.

I'd have a word with the manager. Tell her you've noticed the smell in DS's clothes. The nursery is not doing you a favor, they are looking after your child for pay and that involves respecting your wishes. One of my number one wishes for DD is for her NOT to come home smelling of smoke when she's been in someone else's care.

Surely the manager can wash her hands and brush her teeth after she smokes? It's not too much to ask.

If I put my kids into playgroup clean and tidy and smelling clean I would expect them to come back out reasonably clean and reasonably tidy but not stinking of an ashtray. Today DD2 came out of PG with playdoh in her hair and paint down her t-shirt. That's fine with me cos she's had fun. But to come out smelling of cigarette smoke is, imo, completely wrong. No child should be subjected to an environment which is, in the long run, unhealthy.

It isn't so much about the person smelling, it is what they smell of.

I am a smoker,only about 4/5 a day now [private school educated,very well qualified].
I followed the thread on this a few weeks ago,as I do sometimes work in the creche at my place of employment.
I now go to the back of the building for my lunchtime puff,come back in,wash hands,use body spray and suck a mint.
It did not really cross my mind that the smell would linger after the first few mins.
But I dont think I would be happy at having to change my clothes,
Where is this all going to stop? I dont drive and we have a 45 min walk to school every day,my children often smell of exhaust fumes,but I cant ask everyone to stop driving.

I don't think I've ever smelled exhaust fumes on my children, I have to say.

But perhaps you're right regardless, heronsfly, we should ask everyone to drive less.

That's a separate issue. We're talking about the place of work - IMO, all work - where someone smells of something unpleasant. You sound like you do your best to disguise it.

ITA.

I looked at a local nursery and I did ask about their smoking policy.

No cigarettes on duty and no smoking in their uniform.

Works for me.

i smoke and my boss it very very anti smoking, she never says she can smell it on me. (and she would if she could)

Some people stink of BO. Where do you draw the line. Must we all be lavender-scented?

Well, I'm sorry Sushi, but I hate threads like this. If you want life to be black and white, than try this on.

Look after your own kid.

I don't think you are being unreasonable.I used to smoke and was a paed nurse and never smoked at work.Just didn't consider it as an option.I wouldn't like it.

Not lavender scented, no. Just don't smell disgusting if I have to work with you, for you or my kids are in your charge. Fags smell disgusting.

Top ranting, grim

YANBU. No cigarettes around the children, ever, please. It's a totally poor habit (yeha yeah yeah, used to be 30 a day haven't had one for 5 years don't know how to class class anymore that's a rubbish argument) and promotes poor health and addiction. It's just not OK. If you notice it around your child you should complain immediately. You'd complain in a restaurant if the maitre 'd stank like an old kebab, it's just plain wrong. It's no big deal to not smoke during the day in an environment where you are looking after children.
And stale smoke stinks. If you are paying for care, and nurseries employ people to a wage scale, so by definition some of the carers are paid a low wage because that's how much carers get paid.

Don't let the smokers kid you on this one. They just need a bit more help.

Sorry, but at Desi.

Exhaust fumes on kids? New one on me.

OK I admit defeat on the exhaust fumes
But the point I was trying to make is where can the line be drawn?
If all smokers that work with children had a last puff before getting dressed and no more till they got home,fine.
But what about the children in the setting with smoking parents,often having a last puff themselves outside nursery before going to work,would that be the next problem beccause they are taking the lingering smell into the building.