To get irate over misuse of parents' parking spaces at Sainsbury's

[Sunnymama]

No, not by those people without kids (although they are bad enough), but by people who use them when they have no kids with them but a car seat in the back of the car. Hello? The whole point of the spaces if for people who have their kids WITH them, not who just happen to have kids, somewhere. I saw two people do this on Saturday (while shopping with DD aged 2) and it really riled me - they should know better than anyone what a struggle it can be taking kids shopping.

Ooo yes Teacher, I am totally perfect! I've never done a rude, naughty or illegal thing in my life . Agree that these spaces are a courtesy, so people with car seats without kids in them be courteous to others! Honestly, I was just irritated by it and thought people should be a bit more gracious, didn't realise it would start such a tirade!

unquietdad - i stopped using them when dd was 3. dh will still merrily park in them with our 4 year old who is capable of walking further than him.

This is why I get my shopping delivered.

That way I don't have to endure the hell that is the supermarket, with a toddler and a disabled 4 year old.

Oh and the fact that they don't make trolley seats to fit a 4 year old - what am I supposed to do, fling her over my shoulder?

"I had words with two men who had parked their porsche in the p&t space. I was 8 months pregnant and had a 3yo with me and had struggled to get out of the car in a normal space. I was annoyed and told them they were taking the piss. They told me to piss off as they were father and (25yo) son. Then called me a peasant"

brilliant.this post has everything to get mn posters back up.
a flash sports car.
a pregnant woman wronged by men.
p&t space abuse
good old fashioned snobbery even including the word "peasant"

I don't understand why these threads always seem to polarise people into saying EITHER that P&T spaces are unnecessary OR that the people who use them are tossers. Personally, I've never used one (they don't exist at my supermarket) and I've never found it a problem, so I don't really think they're necessary. However, I also think that anyone who abuses them is an unbelievably selfish tosser with a fundamental attitude problem who is partially responsible for moral decline and a widespread loss of respect for authority. Ditto anyone who appeals parking tickets when they have absolutely no justification for doing so.

and I am a crazy lady apparently

Move them [the spaces] to the back of the carpark and provide a safe path to walk to the shop. I don't care where we park as long as its wide enough to open doors on both sides and its safe for me to walk my 3 small people to the door.

Ok, slightly tongue in cheek. But only slightly. It just really winds me up that a lot of people act in very selfish ways and never obey rules if they think they can get away with it, but then lament the fact that 'the children of today' have no respect for authority. I am largely sane, honest.

Riven I've done that before!!

I have DD2 aged 4 in her pushchair, and DD3 (then aged 18 months) in the trolley being pushed by the shop employee. Poor girl trailing round after me whilst DD3 tries to pull everything off the shelves

Sod it, far easier to sit at home with a cuppa and a pack of biscuits doing it online, rather than fighting for a disabled/P&T space and then battling round the place.

sidge. I always used to get a young lad. he would push dd whilst I rna up and down the store. hated having to get womans stuff though

i'm going to repaint all p+t spaces as spaces for mumsnetters only.

Near where I go shopping sometimes, there is a Merchant Navy club. Outside the front door, there are about ten parking spaces and in each one is spraypainted the words:

"FOR MN MEMBERS ONLY"

The times I've wanted to park in there!

I think people with children should have their own special people-with-children-only supermarkets.

Then all the parking could simply be divided into 'Fruit Shoots' and 'Ricecakes'.

Sorted.

Message withdrawn

"I keep a gun in the glovebox for precisely this reason."

PMSL.

Man, I wouldn't miss these threads for the world.

I don't have a car, I walk, with the buggy and then push it home, overloaded, up a huge hill.

Online shopping is the way to go, I just tend to be too disorganised!

I have 4 year old twins(nearly5) and a 3 year old (nearly4),recently had to park miles away from the door as no p&b spaces came out with a loaded single trolley(obviously no double). As I was trying to steer said very heavy trolley one of my boys nearly got run over so I have every intention of using the spaces until my youngest is 8 too. Read somewhere that that is when road sense develops.

MilaMae - not all by itself, it doesn't...

No I know that.

We walk to school every morning in a busy town so they're pretty good but read somewhere until they'e 8 they are still unpredictable eg running across a car lane in a supermarket carpark when confused and mum is trying to steer a masseeeeve overloaded trolley so has eye of the ball for one minute!!!!!!!!!!

Get your shopping delivered.

Can't afford to,believe me I wish I could

Our local Sainsbury's has just had its carpark resurfaced - and along with that new notices restricting the amount of time you can park there, and patrolling carpark attendants, have appeared. The notices do also quite prominently say "parent and child parking only in designated spaces". So the other day I park in a non p&t space (at nearly 7 I think ds1 is old enough to cope, and I didn't have ds2 with me, although his seat was in the back of the car) and I get stopped by one of the parking attendants telling me that parent and child parking was ONLY in the p&t spaces, as per the sign!

at my local sainsburys the P&T spaces are actually tucked away down the side of the store along with the recycling and disabled parking. It is always almost empty as the normal parking often works out much closer.
But at the same time you see many parents with babies struggling and blocking the road etc trying to use normal spaces as they are too lazy to park in P&T