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To wonder why people used to marry so young

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estrella167532839 · Yesterday 18:47

In 1990 the average age for getting married was 24. I know couples who got married when they were 21/22 and had only just graduated from uni. I can’t imagine being married that young.

At the moment, it seems like most people get married in their 30s, if at all.

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Dicedpumpkin · Yesterday 21:09

Women were allowed thier own bank accounts but before 1975 many/most banks required either your father or your husband permission to open the account. There was a sex discrimination act in 1975 that changed that.

Maisymouse2 · Yesterday 21:12

Religion, social norm's, acceptable behaviour, traditional norm.
Today we dont need a man to tell us what we can Do earn or be.
Marriage to me is religous reason's nothing more.

Cyclingmummy1 · Yesterday 21:12

PrettyPickle · Yesterday 21:06

I'm not being rude, I am stating my experience. And many women of my age on here are saying the same. We lived it.

Stating that my experience is 'rubbish' is rude.

I also lived it. Just differently to you.

Octavia64 · Yesterday 21:12

TheDenimPoet · Yesterday 21:08

Because women weren't really here for anything other than marriage, babies and homemaking. Women could only live with a man once they were married, and sex before marriage was frowned upon (single mothers often ended up in asylums!), so there was no real reason not to just go for it.

These days, women go to university, have careers, and don't actually have to marry at all. We are more than our wombs! And thank goodness for that.

I think you may have misread the date

she’s talking about the 1990s.

first woman to graduate in the U.K. was in the 1880s.

bababamama · Yesterday 21:12

By 1990 living together was normal but people were functioning adults a lot younger in my opinion. That said my dd married at 25

MoscowRules · Yesterday 21:12

The 90’s was the decade of my twenties. I don’t recognise what posters are saying about living in sin etc. Bonkers. This was the decade that gave us the Spice Girls and girl power. I graduated uni, got on a grad scheme, lived with my partner for years. Didn’t get married until my 30’s and that wasn’t unusual.

KathleenDarleenDayKnight · Yesterday 21:12

TheDenimPoet · Yesterday 21:08

Because women weren't really here for anything other than marriage, babies and homemaking. Women could only live with a man once they were married, and sex before marriage was frowned upon (single mothers often ended up in asylums!), so there was no real reason not to just go for it.

These days, women go to university, have careers, and don't actually have to marry at all. We are more than our wombs! And thank goodness for that.

That was true in the 90s as well though, the era referenced in the opening post.

gullgal · Yesterday 21:13

robinsnest1967 · Yesterday 18:56

I got married in 1990 and yes sex before marriage was still frowned upon, as was living together. I was 23 and he was 22.

Was it though? I was living with my boyfriend in Ireland then and it was quite normal.

JJWT · Yesterday 21:13

Flipperthepriest · Yesterday 18:52

Was pre-marital sex really frowned on much as late as 1990?

I think its actually more to do with the fact that we were ready to properly embark on grown up life. I graduated in 1988. By early 90s a 24 year old couple could buy a house and start a family.

gullgal · Yesterday 21:14

gullgal · Yesterday 21:13

Was it though? I was living with my boyfriend in Ireland then and it was quite normal.

I didn't actually get married until my mid 30s

Floristian · Yesterday 21:15

DrSeuss · Yesterday 18:55

Because living together was socially unacceptable, sex before marriage was crowned upon, ( the 60s happened for some, working class girls from thesticks, like my mother not so much) and being pregnant outside of marriage was still largely seen as shameful. Thankfully, the world has moved on!
Most young people.loved at home till marriage. The traditional wedding list of household stuff was because they had never lived alone. My MIL got married in 1963 at 24. Her mother tried to confiscate a pamphlet on sex that a doctor had given her as unsuitable!P

Did you not read the OP? We're talking about 1990 not 1960.

Also, the OP's premise is wrong. The average age for marriage in 1990 in the UK was 27 for men and 25 for women.

Summer98 · Yesterday 21:16

Octavia64 · Yesterday 18:54

No

Yes it still was, especially in rural chapel-going areas. Many people also left school at 16 and went straight to the workplace. Getting married at 21 having worked for 5 years was the norm for many. They were considered responsible adults!

PrettyPickle · Yesterday 21:17

wishfulthinking25 · Yesterday 21:02

Yes! £30k wage, £80k house just 2.5 times their annual wage, pretty sure they’d have got a mortgage for that! My dad got a mortgage on a flat in Muswell Hill that he still kicks himself over selling to this day as it’s now worth 1m. Me + DH now 90k x 2.5 is 225k I’m 30 mins outside London, that won’t buy us anything at all. if it was 90 x 4 we’d get a 2 bed in a decent area.

Working class, born 1964, got my first mortgage when I was 21. It was a doer upper. I couldn't afford furniture so used crates, boxes and had an odd assortment of furniture donated by family. Nothing matched, no central heating and I was as proud as hell.

Mates came round for a housewarming and it was a painting party, they brought their left over paint and picked a room to decorate. And they did a good job.

I have a mismatch of plates, knives and forks and 2nd hand curtains that fell short of a psychedelic nightmare - from the 60's & 70's. Had a mattress on the floor.

Took me years to get it looking decent with furniture from 2nd Hand shops. We weren't proud, we were practical. No expectation of holidays let alone holidays abroad or my nails or eyebrows being done. No phone, had to wait for a payrise before I could afford to have one installed. Had a 2nd hand twin tub and a washing line for laundry.

Aah those were the days.

Arbourimage · Yesterday 21:17

gullgal · Yesterday 21:13

Was it though? I was living with my boyfriend in Ireland then and it was quite normal.

Definitely not common in the north then.

Calliopespa · Yesterday 21:17

GobbolinoAndSootica · Yesterday 18:54

Some would be to have sex. Some so they could live together and be socially acceptable.

For women they had to be married to get a bank account or mortgage.

In 1990??

Summer98 · Yesterday 21:17

Floristian · Yesterday 21:15

Did you not read the OP? We're talking about 1990 not 1960.

Also, the OP's premise is wrong. The average age for marriage in 1990 in the UK was 27 for men and 25 for women.

But that was still the case in some communities in 1990! Very few children were born out of wedlock in our rural area.

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · Yesterday 21:17

Maybe because there were only three channels on television - and they were in black and white?

CravingSolitude · Yesterday 21:18

KathleenDarleenDayKnight · Yesterday 21:12

That was true in the 90s as well though, the era referenced in the opening post.

That is most definitely not my experience of the 90s.

PrettyPickle · Yesterday 21:20

Dicedpumpkin · Yesterday 21:09

Women were allowed thier own bank accounts but before 1975 many/most banks required either your father or your husband permission to open the account. There was a sex discrimination act in 1975 that changed that.

Nope, my mum had a bank account pre 1975 as did my gran, she used to hide money in it from my grandad, But yes in 1975 women were able to get mortgages in their own name.

Moreholidaysthanjudithchalmers · Yesterday 21:21

It’s hard to articulate the nuance.
Yes people were having pre marital sex.
But actually flaunting it and moving in with someone with no intention to marry wasn’t as acceptable in 1990. Obviously area and social circle dependent.

Calliopespa · Yesterday 21:21

Floristian · Yesterday 21:15

Did you not read the OP? We're talking about 1990 not 1960.

Also, the OP's premise is wrong. The average age for marriage in 1990 in the UK was 27 for men and 25 for women.

It sounds more like it.

I remember the 1990s well and a family friend got married at 24 and the comments were along the lines of "well what can you expect: she dropped out of university so she hasn't got much else to do."

So I don't think marriage at 24 was the norm in all circles in the 1990s. There was definitely a move towards career first for women by then. Which is one reason women got married earlier once: less distracted by a career. Also people now live longer so it is not as far, percentage-wise, through their life expectancy, and also I expect advances in fertility treatment has been a factor. Also more accessible travel.

ETA actually now I think about it, she was 23. But it was still seen as young enough to comment.

BigAnne · Yesterday 21:22

RedSpotTeaPot · Yesterday 19:10

You were in the right place at the right time. 1975 was the first year a woman could open a bank account or get a mortgage without a male signatory.

Until 1982 they could still refuse to serve you in a pub purely because you were a woman. They really were different times.

I was born in 1957 and had a bank account when I was 10.

PrettyPickle · Yesterday 21:23

Newname26 · Yesterday 20:42

Remember lots of people didn't do uni. I think that might have been a difference between people living at home and those who had moved out for uni.

I didn't go to Uni until much later in life and went to a normal state run comprehensive school in the 70's and my friends were sexually active and living with boyfriends before marriage int he early 80's, and not necessarily the man they married.

saraclara · Yesterday 21:24

JJWT · Yesterday 21:13

I think its actually more to do with the fact that we were ready to properly embark on grown up life. I graduated in 1988. By early 90s a 24 year old couple could buy a house and start a family.

Yes . Later generations have become increasingly infantilised. You see it every day on Mumsnet.

It was normal to leave home by 21, back in the late 70s. Earlier if you didn't go to uni. We were responsible for ourselves from a much younger age. I moved 100 miles away from my family for my first job at 21. I expected to be (and had to be) an entirely independent adult from that point.

Now, nearly every day on Mumsnet, someone points out the inaccurate trope that young people's brains aren't fully formed until 25, or that a parent wanting their child to move out in their mid to late twenties, is being completely unfair.

So yes, adulthood came earlier back then, and marriage was part of being an adult.

Monwmum · Yesterday 21:24

Statistics actually show that people that live together for a long time before getting married are much more likely to separate interestingly. We seem to have lost the commitment that used to come with marriage now...I got married young not long out of Uni and have never once regretted it. We celebrate our 25th wedding anniversary next year.

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