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To wonder why people used to marry so young

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estrella167532839 · Yesterday 18:47

In 1990 the average age for getting married was 24. I know couples who got married when they were 21/22 and had only just graduated from uni. I can’t imagine being married that young.

At the moment, it seems like most people get married in their 30s, if at all.

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lanthanum · Yesterday 20:49

If (like me) you get married at the start of your adult life, then you mature into adulthood together, working things out together.
If you don't get married until your thirties, you've probably already got your own ways of doing things, and in some ways that makes it harder to adapt to living with someone else.

Either can work, but I think the way in which you evolve as a couple is quite different.

Bumply · Yesterday 20:50

I met my partner at Uni in the early 80s.

When he came to stay at my Mum’s house in mid 80s I asked if we could share a room.

My Mum said that was fine, but my godmother/friend of the family that lived with us might have a few things to say about ‘this fornication going on under our roof’. But she was born 1901! Nobody else thought anything of it.

We didn’t get married but had our own home from mid 20s

PrettyPickle · Yesterday 20:51

GobbolinoAndSootica · Yesterday 18:54

Some would be to have sex. Some so they could live together and be socially acceptable.

For women they had to be married to get a bank account or mortgage.

Sorry but which science fantasy novel or historical novel have you been reading. Your comments are so far off the mark.

I was born in 64, I had a savings account at 4 in my name. I had a current account at 16, I got my first mortgage at 21 in my name only, and my boyfriend lived with me...openly, quite normally.

Women have been able to have bank accounts in their sole name in the UK for a few hundred years.

It is however true to say that my mums generation of working class, could not get mortgages in their own name without a male guarantor until 1975.

Also, just for a bit of content, kids left school earlier and were expected to grow up quicker then too. People born before the early 1930s could often leave at 14 so had 6 years of "adulthood" under their belt before they hit 20. You didn't get kept for free by your parents, you were expected to hand over your weekly wage and they gave you some pocket money if you were lucky.

Those reaching school-leaving age from 1947 onwards had to stay until 15, and those affected by the 1972 reform had to stay until 16. It wasn't normal (well for working class kids) to stay on to the 6th form, let alone go to Uni.

My siblings were the first in our extended family to stay on for A levels, let alone go to Uni. I did Uni in my 40's! But our experience of relationships was the same.

In the UK, people began marrying later mainly because the milestones that traditionally came before marriage started happening later, and because marriage itself became less essential. Some of the biggest reasons were:

Longer education: More people stay in education into their early 20s and beyond, delaying full-time careers and family formation.
Housing and financial pressures: Buying a home, saving for a wedding, and achieving financial security generally take longer than they did for previous generations.
Women's changing roles: Since the 1960s and 1970s, many more women have pursued higher education and careers, reducing the expectation that marriage should happen soon after leaving school.
Less social pressure: Earlier generations often faced strong social expectations to marry before living together or having children. Those expectations have weakened considerably.
Acceptance of cohabitation: Couples can live together without marrying and face far less stigma than in the past. For many, marriage becomes a choice rather than a prerequisite.
Changing attitudes to relationships: People increasingly prioritise finding the "right" partner, personal development, travel, and career goals before settling down.

The statistics reflect this shift. In England and Wales, the median age at marriage for opposite-sex couples reached 34.8 for men and 33.0 for women in 2023, among the highest ages ever recorded.

Historically, marrying young made more sense because people left education earlier, secure employment was often available in the late teens, housing was relatively more affordable. There was strong pressure to marry before having children or setting up home together. For example, it wasn't unusual for British women in the 1950s and early 1960s to marry in their early 20s, whereas today first marriages are much more likely to happen in people's 30s.

Echobelly · Yesterday 20:52

Well, a mixture of things - less expectation of having sex unless you were married. Women not being expected to have a career, so if you wanted out of your parents' home, you had to get married. Fewer people in higher education, people didn't move around as much, so maybe more likely to marry your teenage sweetheart who you'd been with since you were 16

My parents married just after they turned 22, which seems bonkers now!

saraclara · Yesterday 20:54

Flipperthepriest · Yesterday 18:52

Was pre-marital sex really frowned on much as late as 1990?

It wasn't even particularly frowned on when I got married in 1979! My SIL (the same age as me) lived with her boyfriend for three years before marrying.

Yet still I got married at 24. Engaged after six months, married after another six months. Because why not? Back then it wasn't at all unusual to marry after a year. Weddings weren't planned years in advance back then, and if a relationship felt right, you made that commitment.

I don't think my generation's marriages were any more vulnerable to splitting up, then today's marriages/committed partnerships are. Of all my friends of my age, only one marriage broke up.

TheFlirtationsNothingButAHeartacheNsoul · Yesterday 20:57

Newname26 · Yesterday 20:40

Is that not also because the 80s was the end what was essentially forced adoption.
Young mums were no longer forced to give babies up.

Single mums were still demonised by the likes of the Sun newspaper .
Single mums to blame for all social ills in the UK.

accidentalmillionaire · Yesterday 20:57

Octavia64 · Yesterday 18:54

No

Well not long before that I was turned away from a hotel with my boyfriend bc we weren’t married. It was in Exeter.

and in 1990 (with a different boyfriend who went on to become my husband) both sets of parents didn’t allow shared rooms when staying with them.

Moreholidaysthanjudithchalmers · Yesterday 20:58

Pensions and death in service often went to married spouse only. Army accommodation or housing tied to jobs often required you to be married. Widow’s allowance only paid to married women.

KathleenDarleenDayKnight · Yesterday 20:58

Echobelly · Yesterday 20:52

Well, a mixture of things - less expectation of having sex unless you were married. Women not being expected to have a career, so if you wanted out of your parents' home, you had to get married. Fewer people in higher education, people didn't move around as much, so maybe more likely to marry your teenage sweetheart who you'd been with since you were 16

My parents married just after they turned 22, which seems bonkers now!

I was born in the 70s and always had the expectation of a career - my mother worked, she was a teacher. Most of the adult women I knew growing up worked. My grandmother worked in the back office of a bank.

Mondaytuesdayhappydays · Yesterday 21:00

Createausername1970 · Yesterday 19:45

Yes - on the telephone table in my parent's hall. Freezing cold in the winter and no privacy for sexy chatting. His land line was in his parents lounge, even less privacy.

Yes and only allowed to use it for 10 mins or so - none of that lolling on your bed lark, giggling twiddling the cord like in the American films lol

In fact if you were on the phone and my mum was expecting a call she would give you a half min verbal warning and then physically disconnect you with two fingers on the pips lol

ruethewhirl · Yesterday 21:01

LizzieSiddal · Yesterday 18:58

You’re forgetting even in the 80s and early 90s, it was called “living in sin” if you weren’t married and wow betide any woman having sex before marriage! It was frowned upon so much.

You need to put things into an historical context.

What? This doesn't square with my life experiences whatsoever. I was in my early 20s in the late 80s/early 90s and the only people I knew who didn't have sex before marriage were religious. Everyone was at it when I was at uni!

DeeNiall · Yesterday 21:01

Grandad had a shotgun.

Octavia64 · Yesterday 21:02

Echobelly · Yesterday 20:52

Well, a mixture of things - less expectation of having sex unless you were married. Women not being expected to have a career, so if you wanted out of your parents' home, you had to get married. Fewer people in higher education, people didn't move around as much, so maybe more likely to marry your teenage sweetheart who you'd been with since you were 16

My parents married just after they turned 22, which seems bonkers now!

I do find this a bit wild

the early and mid nineties were the time of illegal raves, taking ecstasy in a field and having casual sex.

every woman I knew (except one) worked (northern mill town). She was very ill.

I’m sure there were teens and early twenties around who weren’t going clubbing and going to raves and drinking and taking drugs and having sex but I didn’t meet any of them.

i went to a girls’ school for sixth form (private, on a bursary) and quite a few of my year had part time jobs already to fund going out and clothes and the like. The expectation from our school and from is was that we’d work.

wishfulthinking25 · Yesterday 21:02

RedSpotTeaPot · Yesterday 19:43

Could your mum and dad have afforded a house as a single person though?

Yes! £30k wage, £80k house just 2.5 times their annual wage, pretty sure they’d have got a mortgage for that! My dad got a mortgage on a flat in Muswell Hill that he still kicks himself over selling to this day as it’s now worth 1m. Me + DH now 90k x 2.5 is 225k I’m 30 mins outside London, that won’t buy us anything at all. if it was 90 x 4 we’d get a 2 bed in a decent area.

Nocameltoeleggingsplease · Yesterday 21:02

I got married at 25 in 2002.
Felt right

wishfulthinking25 · Yesterday 21:04

SquirrelGG · Yesterday 19:44

You must live in a very conservative place. I also got married in 1990 and we had been living together prior to that. No-one turned a hair, not parents, grandparents, or anyone else.

I agree. My mum grew up very privileged in rural Ireland, it may have been frowned upon there at that time (I’m not even sure if it would’ve been in the 90s) but she moved over to London in 94 and moved in with my dad a year later, no one batted an eyelid.

PrettyPickle · Yesterday 21:04

RedSpotTeaPot · Yesterday 20:36

One of the most noticeable things about this thread is how willing people are to say other posters experience is rubbish or nonsense because it's not the same as theirs.

I lived it, so I have a right to dispute what is being said and there are many older women on here with exactly the same experience and there is no doubting that women in the UK have had bank accounts for decades - its a fact!

Topseyt123 · Yesterday 21:05

GobbolinoAndSootica · Yesterday 18:54

Some would be to have sex. Some so they could live together and be socially acceptable.

For women they had to be married to get a bank account or mortgage.

I'm a woman. I've had my own Bank account since my student days between 1974 -1988. I didn't have to be married then and I wasn't.

Octavia64 · Yesterday 21:06

In 1990 approx 67.5% of women of working age were in paid employment or self employment.

even in 1975 it was 50%.

https://ifs.org.uk/sites/default/files/output_url_files/BN234.pdf

RedThroatedWarbler · Yesterday 21:06

ILoveKits · Yesterday 20:45

In my upper middle circle, people were at it like rabbits.

We were too. But, it was away from home and parental disapproval. In house shares but not usually permanent cohabitation. If any of us wanted to live together, we got married, or in my case, got cut off by a parent for not being married.

My SIL carried on paying rent on a room in a house share for 2 years after she moved in with my other brother so that her parents wouldn't find out. She only gave it up just before they married in 2003.

PrettyPickle · Yesterday 21:06

Cyclingmummy1 · Yesterday 20:48

Not rubbish at all, very much frowned upon in my experience.

There's no need to be rude because your experience is different to mine.

I'm not being rude, I am stating my experience. And many women of my age on here are saying the same. We lived it.

BigAnne · Yesterday 21:07

Flipperthepriest · Yesterday 18:52

Was pre-marital sex really frowned on much as late as 1990?

No

Boopeedoop · Yesterday 21:08

I married at 20, in 98! Still happily married. I left school at 16 and went straight into full time work, had a mortgage before we got married too!

I'm not 50 yet, but have cleared my mortgage and am very happy with the choices I made.

TheDenimPoet · Yesterday 21:08

Because women weren't really here for anything other than marriage, babies and homemaking. Women could only live with a man once they were married, and sex before marriage was frowned upon (single mothers often ended up in asylums!), so there was no real reason not to just go for it.

These days, women go to university, have careers, and don't actually have to marry at all. We are more than our wombs! And thank goodness for that.

saraclara · Yesterday 21:09

This thread is wild. There are people talking about a whole different late 1970s/80s/90s to the ones I experienced!

My in-laws were super-religious, but they still didn't turn a hair (or if they did they kept it to themselves) at their son and me sharing a bedroom at their house after we got engaged. And by the time we were married in 1979, their daughter was living with her boyfriend.

I'm totally bewildered by the posters who reckon that pre-marital sex was frowned on in 1990! Goodness knows where they lived. Maybe on a tiny Scottish island?

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