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Does anyone think they DONT have ADHD?

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Frenchtoastie · 25/10/2026 07:19

I keep seeing posts on instagram with various reasons why someone has ADHD and then hundreds of comments below reporting these people also have all of these symptoms.
Just wondering if anyone reads these and doesn’t relate to them? To me they are just part of being human, but maybe I am completely wrong and I have ADHD🤣

the posts generally include statement along these lines…

  • I find it hard to get going or impossible to stop
  • I can put off a tiny task for weeks but worry about it for hours but when I finally complete it it takes 5 minutes
  • I can distracted and start cleaning after the shower and suddenly I’ve cleaned the whole house whilst wearing my towel
  • Having a chair covered in clothes
  • having multiple drinks on the go in the house
  • needing a calender because if not I would forget appointments
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C0untry · Yesterday 12:37

dizzydizzydizzy · Yesterday 09:41

I agree with you to a certain extent. i think it is definitely worth considering separating out the autism diagnosis into “high supports needs” and “the rest”. However, you do also sound very dismissive. You can’t get an adult ADHD or autism diagnosis with minor problems like a ‘bit of forgetfulness’ or ‘getting a bit distracted’. What you are forgetting about is the hidden and invisible difficulties and masking.

I was diagnosed with autism and ADHD in my 50s.

I want to grammar school and have a degree. Most people would think I had a good career. However, I really underperformed. I never once got promoted.

My psychiatrist has given me a Global Assessment of Functioning score of 51-60 out of 100 and describes me as “vulnerable”. I do not have any psychiatric illnesses. This is a “moderate” level of difficulty in psychological, social and occupational functioning. My friends and family would be shocked to hear this. Quite a few of them don’t even believe I have adhd and autism.

Define “high support needs”. My dd meets the definition of high support needs, couldn’t even manage supportive living and will probably never leave home and always need access to a high tier of services- she’s bright and verbal.

CousinBette · Yesterday 12:49

dizzydizzydizzy · Yesterday 09:41

I agree with you to a certain extent. i think it is definitely worth considering separating out the autism diagnosis into “high supports needs” and “the rest”. However, you do also sound very dismissive. You can’t get an adult ADHD or autism diagnosis with minor problems like a ‘bit of forgetfulness’ or ‘getting a bit distracted’. What you are forgetting about is the hidden and invisible difficulties and masking.

I was diagnosed with autism and ADHD in my 50s.

I want to grammar school and have a degree. Most people would think I had a good career. However, I really underperformed. I never once got promoted.

My psychiatrist has given me a Global Assessment of Functioning score of 51-60 out of 100 and describes me as “vulnerable”. I do not have any psychiatric illnesses. This is a “moderate” level of difficulty in psychological, social and occupational functioning. My friends and family would be shocked to hear this. Quite a few of them don’t even believe I have adhd and autism.

Can I ask how your ability to get a degree did not transform into performing well at work? Or put another way, how did your ADHD keep you at a certain level? I see a lot of clever people not moving upwards and I wonder why.

C0untry · Yesterday 13:24

CousinBette · Yesterday 12:49

Can I ask how your ability to get a degree did not transform into performing well at work? Or put another way, how did your ADHD keep you at a certain level? I see a lot of clever people not moving upwards and I wonder why.

My autism and adhd has made me massively under employed. The figures re unemployment and under employment for those with autism and adhd are staggering. Re me it’s the huge struggles re handling stress, verbalising well, organisation, social burnout, processing….. I'm on minimum wage but degree educated.

dizzydizzydizzy · Yesterday 13:36

CousinBette · Yesterday 12:49

Can I ask how your ability to get a degree did not transform into performing well at work? Or put another way, how did your ADHD keep you at a certain level? I see a lot of clever people not moving upwards and I wonder why.

I did perform well but my ‘soft’ skills are poor. There is so much. For example:

I can’t read the room or read between the lines. I don’t understand facial expressions and body language very well. I have poor language processing and therefore find it impossible to focus in a meeting.

It is easy for others to bully me due to the above and various other factors.

Get tired easily due to the fact that I am putting so much effort into ordinary every day stuff like monitoring my own body language and trying to understand that of others.

Very poor understanding of the passing of time, so it was hard to manage my workload and deadlines.

there’s much more….

theruffles · Yesterday 13:42

I don't think I have ADHD (or any ND personally). What I do have is a 39-year old brain, potential perimenopause, a ft job, 2 young DC and a DH with severe mental health issues, so I give myself some grace if I forget things or I'm a bit scatty!

dizzydizzydizzy · Yesterday 14:27

C0untry · Yesterday 12:37

Define “high support needs”. My dd meets the definition of high support needs, couldn’t even manage supportive living and will probably never leave home and always need access to a high tier of services- she’s bright and verbal.

I haven’t got as far as defining “high support needs”. A lot of people on here comment there is a world of difference between somebody with ADHD or autism who has a degrees and a job and someone who has so many difficulties, that they cannot even live independently. I think it is reasonable to consider whether these groups of people should have the same diagnosis. I’m not sure what the right answer is but I do think it a reasonable point.

CousinBette · Yesterday 15:33

dizzydizzydizzy · Yesterday 13:36

I did perform well but my ‘soft’ skills are poor. There is so much. For example:

I can’t read the room or read between the lines. I don’t understand facial expressions and body language very well. I have poor language processing and therefore find it impossible to focus in a meeting.

It is easy for others to bully me due to the above and various other factors.

Get tired easily due to the fact that I am putting so much effort into ordinary every day stuff like monitoring my own body language and trying to understand that of others.

Very poor understanding of the passing of time, so it was hard to manage my workload and deadlines.

there’s much more….

Oh that makes sense. I am sorry, it must be difficult.

Greenmouldycheese · Yesterday 16:39

Lots of people on here who want to be autistic and have adhd. "Oh im so intelligent, I can get x,y,z done but I also like my own space and not that bothered about socializing so I am autistic". The behaviour they give examples of are just preferences and totally normal but its like they really want to be labeled.

Branleuse · Yesterday 16:43

iamnotalemon · 25/10/2026 10:24

I agree.

Also, this then ties into the benefits system and there are then people with varying levels of diagnosed ADHD entitled to benefits, when it should really be reserved for the most in need (in my opinion).

Which benefits do you think that you can get with non-severe adhd??

TigerRag · Yesterday 16:58

Greenmouldycheese · Yesterday 16:39

Lots of people on here who want to be autistic and have adhd. "Oh im so intelligent, I can get x,y,z done but I also like my own space and not that bothered about socializing so I am autistic". The behaviour they give examples of are just preferences and totally normal but its like they really want to be labeled.

If rather not have a "label". I'd rather not struggle in life which led to me struggling with my GCSEs

Imdunfer · Yesterday 17:37

dizzydizzydizzy · Yesterday 14:27

I haven’t got as far as defining “high support needs”. A lot of people on here comment there is a world of difference between somebody with ADHD or autism who has a degrees and a job and someone who has so many difficulties, that they cannot even live independently. I think it is reasonable to consider whether these groups of people should have the same diagnosis. I’m not sure what the right answer is but I do think it a reasonable point.

There are experts who are saying the same thing about autism. I think the autism spectrum is way too broad and the old Asperger's label makes much more sense for my DP. I think ADHD has already spilt into sub groups by type but not severity.

But the diagnosis isn't the issue, it's that benefits are provided for need and the official label makes it easier to establish that the need is genuine, because a consultant level doctor says so.

You can't obtain disability benefits without need unless you lie, except when your symptoms improve but you continue to claim.

I do believe it is possible to be coached as to the right things to say for a "high functioning" person to obtain benefits for ASD and ADHD. There are also cases where PIP money enables people to behave as if they are not affected by the condition enough to claim benefits (especially when they spend it on mental health support), but take the PIP away and that person's life falls apart, so it's very difficult to judge who really needs these payments.,

Everdecreasingcircumferences · Yesterday 17:50

It will be interesting to see how the "noise" around ADHD and ASD develops over the next few years as research continues with access to larger datasets.
The only reason it feel like "everyone thinks they have ADHD" is because it's in the media a lot at the moment. DH and DS1 are NT, rest of family is ND.

DS2 has NHS ASD diagnosis - suspected age 2, referred to assessment in year 6, diagnosed at 14. Academically able, great imagination, chatty, small close group of friends, loves playing rugby despite hating mud. Also huge issues with autistic anxiety, struggles with relationships (none of his friends are NT) very rigid thinking, cant sense tone or read the room, massive issues with sensory overwhelm, school dyslexia screening showed significant impairments in executive function. Needs lots and lots of support but mostly to the outside world seems fine, just a bit quirky and blunt. Never applied for DLA or an EHCP for him, he will likely go on to achieve a university education and find a good job in the right industry, but daily life is much, much harder for him right now than NT DC1. This is the bit people get annoyed about - but it's not that DS1 never experiences challenges, it's just that life IS objectively more difficult for DS2 to cope with - it's never an excuse for him to behave like a dick though, he knows he's responsible for managing himself.

DS3 was referred to NHS paediatrician after his 2 year check, diagnosed with ADHD at 7, an amazing chaos demon who did not cope in mainstream despite full time 1:1 TA and now thriving in specialist school. Very bright, very impulsive, very hyperactive, currently trialling meds but no changes seen so far. Beautifully behaved, charming, well-liked child who cannot sit still and does sport 7 days per week. Unable to switch off at night without melatonin (we have tried ALL the different dietary, exercise and routine suggestions). No idea if he'll transition to mainstream following the SEND reforms. Has EHCP and gets DLA (which doesnt come close to covering the additional costs for him versus his brothers). With the right support we hope to keep him on the right path, and expect he will eventually find his place in the world through sport / the arts / something manual, with a bit of scaffolding in place.

It was through reading about how to support DS3 I discovered how ADHD can present differently in girls, and realised I fit the description well. Sought a referral, and after a 2 year wait was diagnosed with combined type ADHD by an NHS consultant psychiatrist. Meds (non-stimulant btw as I cant have stimulants) have helped a lot for work, studying and to stop binge-eating, but they cant help the worst aspects like the RSD, forgetfulness, inability to regulate sensory input, distractability and hyperactive mind. I've no need to apply for benefits for my ADHD and have not requested adjustments at work - I am in a job that suits my strengths (varied, high pressure, managing stakeholder relationships, multi-tasking, challenging, interesting work) which make up for my weaknesses (organisational skills, time keeping, going down rabbit holes, struggles with focus, following verbal instructions). I do well in work because I'm a square peg in a square hole.

This is not a fun 'label'. I'd rather not have ADHD, but I accept it's part of me and get on with life as most of us do. Benefit of diagnosis beyond the meds is that I no longer beat myself up for weeks (previously sometimes months) if I've interrupted someone, struggle with emotional regulation, over-think things etc; I've had enough tellings off for those things from other people to last a life-time, I dont need to berate myself for them too (doesnt mean I dont try really hard to manage those things though). It just stops the "why can't you just...?" comments that plagued my childhood, and helps me find better strategies to deal with things.

dizzydizzydizzy · Yesterday 17:50

Imdunfer · Yesterday 17:37

There are experts who are saying the same thing about autism. I think the autism spectrum is way too broad and the old Asperger's label makes much more sense for my DP. I think ADHD has already spilt into sub groups by type but not severity.

But the diagnosis isn't the issue, it's that benefits are provided for need and the official label makes it easier to establish that the need is genuine, because a consultant level doctor says so.

You can't obtain disability benefits without need unless you lie, except when your symptoms improve but you continue to claim.

I do believe it is possible to be coached as to the right things to say for a "high functioning" person to obtain benefits for ASD and ADHD. There are also cases where PIP money enables people to behave as if they are not affected by the condition enough to claim benefits (especially when they spend it on mental health support), but take the PIP away and that person's life falls apart, so it's very difficult to judge who really needs these payments.,

You can’t just lie and get PIP because you have to provide mountains of evidence about every single claim you make on the form. For example, It’s no good saying on your PIP form that you need support to socialise if this is not explicitly backed up in your evidence. So a letter from a doctor confirming you are autistic will not be enough. You will need letters or reports from professionals confirming that you have this specific difficultly.

Anyone, no matter how well educated and intelligent, does need coaching on filling in tbe PIP form because it is so difficult and you need to use specific keywords in very specific ways. My GP actually told me to get help with the form.

dizzydizzydizzy · Yesterday 18:06

Greenmouldycheese · Yesterday 16:39

Lots of people on here who want to be autistic and have adhd. "Oh im so intelligent, I can get x,y,z done but I also like my own space and not that bothered about socializing so I am autistic". The behaviour they give examples of are just preferences and totally normal but its like they really want to be labeled.

You cannot get a diagnosis for ADHD or autism due to behaviour that are “just preferences and totally normal”. You have to have clinically significant impairments since early childhood and in different settings. It is however true that NT people experience many of the same traits as ND people but not to the same extent and depth . It you go back a few posts, you will see where I have described some
of my difficulties, which incidentally are problems that very people notice.

Imdunfer · Yesterday 18:16

dizzydizzydizzy · Yesterday 17:50

You can’t just lie and get PIP because you have to provide mountains of evidence about every single claim you make on the form. For example, It’s no good saying on your PIP form that you need support to socialise if this is not explicitly backed up in your evidence. So a letter from a doctor confirming you are autistic will not be enough. You will need letters or reports from professionals confirming that you have this specific difficultly.

Anyone, no matter how well educated and intelligent, does need coaching on filling in tbe PIP form because it is so difficult and you need to use specific keywords in very specific ways. My GP actually told me to get help with the form.

I do understand what you are saying and I do understand how difficult it is for most people who need disability benefits for themselves or a family member have to work really hard to get them. Really, I do, it's shameful in many cases.

But I do also believe that there are ways to work a system, partly because of some of the online coaching I've seen for ADHD for PIP when I have it myself. Devious, mendacious and intelligent people can also have ADHD.

I also understand the arguments that it shouldn't be made more difficult for genuine claimants in order to stop a bit of fraud which is a puddle compared to the lake of tax evasion, but individual fraud is contagious. It really is a difficult issue.

I'm so sorry if your family struggles with this every day.

AlligatorsOnaTrain · Yesterday 18:23

My DP and DS are both diagnosed with autism and ADHD, DD is still on the waiting list for an autism assessment but was told no ADHD at her ADHD assessment. All 3 of them are adamant that I'm "on the spectrum". I really don't care whether I am or not and have no intentions of seeking any kind of diagnosis as I can't see how it would change anything for me! School days are long ago and far behind me now! My DS is diagnosed but it's not like that diagnosis means much in terms of "support" available from school - he doesn't have to wear a tie or do up his top button - that's it! That's all the support he gets!

C0untry · Yesterday 21:37

dizzydizzydizzy · Yesterday 14:27

I haven’t got as far as defining “high support needs”. A lot of people on here comment there is a world of difference between somebody with ADHD or autism who has a degrees and a job and someone who has so many difficulties, that they cannot even live independently. I think it is reasonable to consider whether these groups of people should have the same diagnosis. I’m not sure what the right answer is but I do think it a reasonable point.

My daughter could well get a degree however she has very high support needs, couldn’t manage supportive living which we’ve tried , will probably never leave home and as I said will always need to be able to access higher tier support from professionals. I honestly can’t see her working ever either. Autism is not that cut and dried and neither are high support needs.

C0untry · Yesterday 21:39

Greenmouldycheese · Yesterday 16:39

Lots of people on here who want to be autistic and have adhd. "Oh im so intelligent, I can get x,y,z done but I also like my own space and not that bothered about socializing so I am autistic". The behaviour they give examples of are just preferences and totally normal but its like they really want to be labeled.

Autism and adhd has wrecked all our lives, nobody would wish themselves having either ever.

C0untry · Yesterday 21:44

Imdunfer · Yesterday 17:37

There are experts who are saying the same thing about autism. I think the autism spectrum is way too broad and the old Asperger's label makes much more sense for my DP. I think ADHD has already spilt into sub groups by type but not severity.

But the diagnosis isn't the issue, it's that benefits are provided for need and the official label makes it easier to establish that the need is genuine, because a consultant level doctor says so.

You can't obtain disability benefits without need unless you lie, except when your symptoms improve but you continue to claim.

I do believe it is possible to be coached as to the right things to say for a "high functioning" person to obtain benefits for ASD and ADHD. There are also cases where PIP money enables people to behave as if they are not affected by the condition enough to claim benefits (especially when they spend it on mental health support), but take the PIP away and that person's life falls apart, so it's very difficult to judge who really needs these payments.,

Bar your last paragraph you’re talking nonsense. For the gazillionth time you don’t get it for a diagnosis. I can’t even remember if I bothered sending my daughters autism and adhd reports in. The mountains of evidence we have re her needs and support were far more weighty and detailed. You need this evidence, without it you can say what you like- it’s not going to get you PIP.

CoffeeThenMaybe59 · Yesterday 22:29

I can relate to some but I think they’re just personality traits and I don’t believe I have ADHD. I think some (not all) people just want the label tbh and feel as though it’s a bit of a tend at the moment which is making a mockery of those who genuinely have ADHD and the daily struggles that can come with it as I see with some of my family members

Wildefish · Today 07:35

C0untry · Yesterday 21:37

My daughter could well get a degree however she has very high support needs, couldn’t manage supportive living which we’ve tried , will probably never leave home and as I said will always need to be able to access higher tier support from professionals. I honestly can’t see her working ever either. Autism is not that cut and dried and neither are high support needs.

Let’s put it another way. I had stage 1 breast cancer which is clearly not as awful as having stage 3 breast cancer. But I still had it. I had treatment and live with the consequences of that treatment. I also have ADHD which has made my life difficult and impacted my mental health but nothing like the impact it has for some people who need medication to just get out of bed. I’m not complaining I’m explaining.

C0untry · Today 07:42

Wildefish · Today 07:35

Let’s put it another way. I had stage 1 breast cancer which is clearly not as awful as having stage 3 breast cancer. But I still had it. I had treatment and live with the consequences of that treatment. I also have ADHD which has made my life difficult and impacted my mental health but nothing like the impact it has for some people who need medication to just get out of bed. I’m not complaining I’m explaining.

Explaining what? Autism and adhd care needs are not cut and dried and can’t be put in neat boxes- particularly by other people who don’t ever know them or they’ve never met. The care needs of my child are significant however she doesn’t have a learning disability. That does not take away her care needs.

Imdunfer · Today 08:17

C0untry · Yesterday 21:44

Bar your last paragraph you’re talking nonsense. For the gazillionth time you don’t get it for a diagnosis. I can’t even remember if I bothered sending my daughters autism and adhd reports in. The mountains of evidence we have re her needs and support were far more weighty and detailed. You need this evidence, without it you can say what you like- it’s not going to get you PIP.

I have been saying all along you don't get it for a diagnosis.

You are wrong about the ability of devious humans to get what they want from rules based government systems.

The prosecutions for disability benefit fraud should be evidence enough of that.

C0untry · Today 08:23

Imdunfer · Today 08:17

I have been saying all along you don't get it for a diagnosis.

You are wrong about the ability of devious humans to get what they want from rules based government systems.

The prosecutions for disability benefit fraud should be evidence enough of that.

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I’ve no doubt there are some unscrupulous people in all sectors however for the financial year ending (FYE) 2026, the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) reported that the fraud overpayment for PIP is 1.4%!! Going through the PIP process and being able to provide the right evidence is incredibly hard.

Imdunfer · Today 08:29

C0untry · Today 08:23

I’ve no doubt there are some unscrupulous people in all sectors however for the financial year ending (FYE) 2026, the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) reported that the fraud overpayment for PIP is 1.4%!! Going through the PIP process and being able to provide the right evidence is incredibly hard.

In know. I posted exactly that above, including the conundrum that it's a drop in the ocean compared with tax evasion.

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