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My DH wants to move out because I washed the car I'm the wrong way

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Brownhotwaterbottle · Today 08:50

Im 41, My DH (50) is recently diagnosed autistic. He's always been pretty rigid so the diagnosis didn't come as a surprise.
Yesterday we were going to his parents house me and the kids were driving there but DH was taking bus from work. The car was really muddy so spur of the moment I decided to drive through the car wash on the way there (his parents are quite judgy so I didnt fancy rocking up in a muddy car). Now full transparency DH has asked me not to go through the car wash as it "ruins the paintwork" but he also promised to wash it himself and has only done that twice since we bought the car in March. Anyway we had a nice time with his family and we went out to the local pub for some food DH and his parents had a couple pints and I entertained the kids and drove everyone home afterwards. But when we got into the car my youngest made a remark that we went through the car wash on the way there. DH was totally silent the whole way home (which was awkward as kids and me were chatting away) and went straight to bed without even saying goodnight to me or the kids. Then when I apologised he freaked out saying I don't respect him as he only asked me "one thing" and it shows what I think of him said everyone would be happier if he lived in an apartment alone. I said it sounds like thats what you want. He said yes that's true. So I said " OK fine I won't stand in your way take the car and go get an apartment" to which he then said angrily "you'd like that wouldn't you. This is my home I'm not leaving" like wtf I can't keep up. This morning he's still not speaking to me.

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Pinadaqx2 · Today 11:54

Let the man move out. I think he's probably used to you tip toeing around him! He likely wouldn't of even noticed if the kids hadn't of mentioned it.

Can he afford for you to run 2 seperare households? Sounds like if he doesnt move out the kids will grow up in an atmosphere too @Brownhotwaterbottle

ScaramoucheCanYouDoTheFandango · Today 11:58

Anyahyacinth · Today 11:05

He cares about the beauty of the object so much he left it filthy for MONTHS?

There is a difference between dirt which washes off and damage that is expensive to fix.

ApronSprings · Today 11:59

Brownhotwaterbottle · Today 08:50

Im 41, My DH (50) is recently diagnosed autistic. He's always been pretty rigid so the diagnosis didn't come as a surprise.
Yesterday we were going to his parents house me and the kids were driving there but DH was taking bus from work. The car was really muddy so spur of the moment I decided to drive through the car wash on the way there (his parents are quite judgy so I didnt fancy rocking up in a muddy car). Now full transparency DH has asked me not to go through the car wash as it "ruins the paintwork" but he also promised to wash it himself and has only done that twice since we bought the car in March. Anyway we had a nice time with his family and we went out to the local pub for some food DH and his parents had a couple pints and I entertained the kids and drove everyone home afterwards. But when we got into the car my youngest made a remark that we went through the car wash on the way there. DH was totally silent the whole way home (which was awkward as kids and me were chatting away) and went straight to bed without even saying goodnight to me or the kids. Then when I apologised he freaked out saying I don't respect him as he only asked me "one thing" and it shows what I think of him said everyone would be happier if he lived in an apartment alone. I said it sounds like thats what you want. He said yes that's true. So I said " OK fine I won't stand in your way take the car and go get an apartment" to which he then said angrily "you'd like that wouldn't you. This is my home I'm not leaving" like wtf I can't keep up. This morning he's still not speaking to me.

He sounds like a twat OP.

There's loads of other stuff in your post which are equally arsehole behaviour aside from his tantrum over the car being washed.

For example, not only does he get to enjoy a few drinks and be driven there and back, you also entertained the kids. He is responsible for washing the car, but didn't so you've had to do it yourself. Doesn't sound like he was grateful for any of those tasks.

If he is particular about his car then he needs to do it himself. I'm not sure he has a right to be particular if it's a family car that you're both using, and certainly not when he has judgemental parents.

Honestly OP you sound like a wonderful, thoughtful person, and I wonder if you might be better off without this ungrateful man and his judgemental parents.

Did he think you were going to wash it by hand while also solo parenting (sorry don't know kids ages)?

If the kids are teenagers then he could have offered them some pocket money to clean it if he wants it done by hand with a specific shampoo.

He's been absolutely ridiculous. One go in the car wash isn't going to ruin the paintwork. And if he's so worried then he should do it himself.

Tangit · Today 12:02

ByRoseBiscuit · Today 10:04

I can see why people are saying it’s an over reaction, but I would hate it if someone didn’t listen to me and did the thing I asked them not to, as it feels like a lack of respect. Sounds like you then both argued and it got out of hand

But if you then just didn't bother doing the thing your way, tough shit if someone ends up having to do it their way!

ApronSprings · Today 12:03

Brownhotwaterbottle · Today 09:00

Honestly I would prefer it if he moved out. He sucks the energy out of the house but I don't want to live separatelyfrom my kids and feel like I should do everything to save the marriage. It's my fault I chose him so I.should try and save it

It's obvious to me he's worn down your self-worth OP. I don't know everything that's happened in your marriage but don't you think you deserve better than someone who sucks the energy out of the house? If not for you, then for the kids?
I assume the kids will want to be with you. He really should leave but either way, you must take the kids with you.

Don't save the marriage - save yourself.

FateAmenableToChange · Today 12:04

This isnt really about car wash is it. Its about leaving a controlling soul sucking man and getting your freedom and peace back. Probably worth starting another thread with some details about finances, jobs etc and getting advice on a good approach to managing a divorce.

BriarTime · Today 12:05

Awkwardisfunny · Today 11:49

This. It's exhausting. I don't recommend relationships with these people. It's like quiet mental abuse over time. Permanent gaslighting and undermining. I know they struggle to change but that's not your problem and you don't have to put up with it out of pity.

As a neurodiverse woman I think this is extremely unfair. My partner and I have a healthy, happy relationship, partly because I (like a great many neurodiverse women, actually) don’t let my neurodiversity become an excuse for a lack of personal accountability. If I couldn’t do that, I would remain single rather than expecting another person to set themselves alight to keep me warm. The way neurodiversity is perceived is extremely gendered, all the way from getting a diagnosis and initial support. You see it on these threads all the time. An OP posts about a man behaving like a total shit and you just know someone will be along shortly to diagnose him with something.

Koriko · Today 12:07

You did choose the man OP, but you're also choosing your future with him if you stay. You have agency.

BriarTime · Today 12:07

VioletsTale · Today 11:35

Bonkers , isn’t it? Everyone else, including a small child MUST manage their own behaviours and words, but god forbid the same was expected from a grown ass adult. The bar is so low sometimes, ants can merrily skip over it.

It’s absolutely wild.

ApronSprings · Today 12:07

BriarTime · Today 12:05

As a neurodiverse woman I think this is extremely unfair. My partner and I have a healthy, happy relationship, partly because I (like a great many neurodiverse women, actually) don’t let my neurodiversity become an excuse for a lack of personal accountability. If I couldn’t do that, I would remain single rather than expecting another person to set themselves alight to keep me warm. The way neurodiversity is perceived is extremely gendered, all the way from getting a diagnosis and initial support. You see it on these threads all the time. An OP posts about a man behaving like a total shit and you just know someone will be along shortly to diagnose him with something.

He's already been diagnosed by a professional. It's not the posters diagnosing him.

ApronSprings · Today 12:10

ScaramoucheCanYouDoTheFandango · Today 11:58

There is a difference between dirt which washes off and damage that is expensive to fix.

The point is, if he wants it done a certain way then he should do it himself. They are his judgemental parents, so it is his problem.

BriarTime · Today 12:12

ApronSprings · Today 12:07

He's already been diagnosed by a professional. It's not the posters diagnosing him.

In my last sentence I was referring to those frequent threads where a man is being a dick (no evidence of any neurodiversity) and someone comes along and diagnoses him. Not this thread specifically, where there is an existing diagnosis being used as an excuse. But the end result is the same.

LIZS · Today 12:13

Madamefroufrou · Today 10:57

possibly, but blame her for what? he would be hoist by his own petard

For not reminding him to clean it, not cleaning it as he would prefer, embarrassing him in front of his parents (who may well also be used to working round his rigid thinking) by having a dirty car.

MrsBananaman · Today 12:14

ApronSprings · Today 12:10

The point is, if he wants it done a certain way then he should do it himself. They are his judgemental parents, so it is his problem.

So, by this logic, surely the OP was unreasonable to go the car wash?

Because what she should have done is drive the muddy car to IL’s and say “Sorry the car is so filthy, I would have gone through the car wash on the way but Dave wants to hand wash it only but hasn’t got around to it yet”

Then it’s his fault, his parents, his mud. And if he doesn’t like that then you have a leg to stand on that you specifically acknowledged and obeyed his preferences.

Wowthatwasabigstep · Today 12:15

Your husband is an immature man child. Ignore him until he snaps out of it.

Why on earth did you apologise to him? If he was so concerned about the car he could have washed it to his exacting standards himself.

Also why do you care what his parents think about the car? Did they pay for it or is it your/his/the families car and you could cover it in mud if you feel so inclined and it is really none of their business.

shhblackbag · Today 12:16

Summeriscumin · Today 09:10

I really, really couldn't live with that. OP. This is the rest of your life.

Yeah, this. He'd be told he's free to go.

Scarlettpixie · Today 12:17

He is allowed to be upset that you took the car to a car wash after he expressed concerns about it and asked you not to. I know people who feel this way and I am sure there is some truth in it but I cba. In fact I haven't cleaned my car since I bought it over 2 years ago (must do something about that).

Similarly a lot of people were concerned about covid to a greater or lesser extent. I washed my hands a lot, wiped down door handles and was happy not to mingle very much. That said I still had takeaways and didn't wash my shopping.

These two examples make him anxious but not abusive. How much are you prepared to tolerate that?

If you are unhappy in your marriage work and he won't meet you half way then by all means put plans in place to separate. Don't wait for him to suggest it when you are arguing though and then expect him to mean it. It sounds like neither of you are happy.

JayJayj · Today 12:17

Dontevenlookatme · Today 09:59

Well he did ask you not to, and why, and you did it anyway, so I get why he’s upset. The reaction is about more than this though. He sounds like he doesn’t feel heard, whether that’s right or wrong only you can judge.

I think couples counselling is needed so he can air what his actual grievances are. And of course you get to tell him how his behaviour makes you and the children feel.

If he won’t engage with counselling then he’s not motivated to fix his part of the problem, so nobody would blame you for wanting out of the marriage.

Well maybe he should have washed the car himself like he said he would!! That’s on him.

ApronSprings · Today 12:17

Brownhotwaterbottle · Today 09:15

I've asked previously for us to attend couples counselling and he has refused . I would prefer to exhaust every avenue before ending the marriage but yeah I don't think there is much real love there for either of us so ultimately separation is the most likely scenario
It's mostly me and the kids together and then him off in some other room by himself but then he complains of being lonely.

Definitely get rid of him OP. He is going to wear you down.
You're 41. You have so much of your life left to live. You have one life, you don't get a do-over. If you stay with this awkward bastard you will regret it on your death bed. You deserve to someone who is going to clean the car and who will pull his weight with the kids, not sulk.

It isn't too late and it is only hard to get started. There is a very different life waiting for you. Don't spend your golden years with this buffoon.
You have so many big milestones ahead of you - the kids going off to uni/moving out, finding your freedom to travel and do whatever you like without having to sort childcare, possibly becoming a grandparent. You can do all this with someone who deserves you by your side.
I don't know what you're into OP, but I'm sure there must be things you're looking forward to doing and achieving, enjoying life.

Jamlighter · Today 12:18

I would have left the car dirty but I get why you didn't. I think he should leave and if it moved the process along I would help him find a place as otherwise it won't happen. He may be ND but he is also controlling and unwilling to acknowledge fault. Not going to counselling is avoiding the issue and shows an unwillingness to take your views into account. He will become more controlling as your kids get older and the dynamics change - how they live, where they put their stuff, who they can (or can't) have over. If he is this 'rigid' he will not be able to flex as needed. In addition your kids are already on eggshells. They shouldn't have to watch what they say. Do it now while they are still young. It won't get any better.

Tryingtothinkofausername · Today 12:21

"... he freaked out saying I don't respect him as he only asked me "one thing" and it shows what I think of him ..."

I'd have answered that he had disrespected me first by expecting me to turn up at his parent's house in a dirty car and by not abiding by his agreement to wash it.

watchingthishtread · Today 12:22

He has said before that he's moving out and each time you have asked him not to. There was a routine there. He knew what to expect. This time you called his bluff. He got a different response to what he was expecting. Ignore is mood for now and just let him sit with it until he manages to process your response. The next move is his. If you want him to go he's going to need to think it's his idea. Otherwise he will dig his heels in and never leave. You need to think strategically.

ApronSprings · Today 12:22

MrsBananaman · Today 12:14

So, by this logic, surely the OP was unreasonable to go the car wash?

Because what she should have done is drive the muddy car to IL’s and say “Sorry the car is so filthy, I would have gone through the car wash on the way but Dave wants to hand wash it only but hasn’t got around to it yet”

Then it’s his fault, his parents, his mud. And if he doesn’t like that then you have a leg to stand on that you specifically acknowledged and obeyed his preferences.

I would have done exactly what you suggested. However, if his parents think he shits gold then they may still find a way for it to be OP's fault.
The poor woman can't do right.

ApronSprings · Today 12:24

Brownhotwaterbottle · Today 09:55

I think for me it's triggered me back to 2021/2022 where he was so rigid about covid even way after the guidance was lifted. He didn't want me leaving the house with the kids. I remember him freaking out at me because i ordered takeaway and he thought that was too dangerous. He watched me on the ring doorbell and got angry because a delivery guy got too close. I had two young kids and felt so isolated. He would never be violent or anything just the same as this, saying that I didn't care about him and got silent. I went to counselling and learned to break free of his rules

Omg OP. How awful.
Run!

CatSquirrelDuck · Today 12:25

I'd be quite clear with him while he sits there in his sulky silence: "I won't spend my life walking on eggshells in my own house. Being autistic doesn't mean you're not also being an asshole. And you're being an asshole. It's my car, too. Your parents are just as judgmental as you are, frankly, and I wasn't prepared to listen to their crap, just like I'm not prepared to listen to yours. So Yes, I took OUR car through the car wash like 1000s do every day in this country so I wouldn't have to listen to their crap about the mud on it. You've washed OUR car exactly twice since we bought it, despite promises to the contrary when we bought it. So you've forced my hand, so to speak, and that's on you. Don't like it? Too bad. Stay and deal with me, your children and your family life like a grown up and stop threatening to move out over every little thing or I might just take you up on it."