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10 year olds more likely to be on disability benefits than 50 year olds

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AgeingMillennial · 16/10/2026 18:07

AIBU to think this is absolutely baffling? And at some point we really have to investigate why so many young children are non verbal, have severe emotional regulation problems etc?

10 year olds more likely to be on disability benefits than 50 year olds
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Thatsalineallright · 17/10/2026 09:15

Rosegla55es · 17/10/2026 07:36

Scientific research shows that sugar does not cause ADHD, and eliminating it will not make ADHD go away. ADHD is a neurodevelopmental condition with strong genetic roots, not something brought on or cured by diet.

Obviously. That's why I wrote "Not causing them, but worsening symptoms."

But the symptoms are what interferes with quality of life. Would you refuse medication because it doesn't cure ADHD and instead just manages symptoms?

Rosegla55es · 17/10/2026 09:17

Thatsalineallright · 17/10/2026 09:15

Obviously. That's why I wrote "Not causing them, but worsening symptoms."

But the symptoms are what interferes with quality of life. Would you refuse medication because it doesn't cure ADHD and instead just manages symptoms?

Trust me people with adhd try everything. Sugar has little impact on my ADHD or that of my dc.

Boomer55 · 17/10/2026 09:19

AgeingMillennial · 16/10/2026 18:07

AIBU to think this is absolutely baffling? And at some point we really have to investigate why so many young children are non verbal, have severe emotional regulation problems etc?

I think, if there really are this amount of kids, that are disabled, then someone needs to be looking at from a health perspective. 🤷‍♀️

As to what is causing it.

This report (although the original reports said 7 year olds), have been reported widely this week.

Thatsalineallright · 17/10/2026 09:27

Rosegla55es · 17/10/2026 09:17

Trust me people with adhd try everything. Sugar has little impact on my ADHD or that of my dc.

And others find cutting out sugar or going keto does help.

At an individual level we can all react quite differently. What we're discussing is population level.

Boomer55 · 17/10/2026 09:30

BoredZelda · 16/10/2026 19:58

There was a massive cluster of cases, spiking over a very small period of time. It was clear there was a very specific problem.

They knew what drug had caused them. The court cases went on for years.

Rosegla55es · 17/10/2026 09:32

Thatsalineallright · 17/10/2026 09:27

And others find cutting out sugar or going keto does help.

At an individual level we can all react quite differently. What we're discussing is population level.

There’s no we as actually you have no right to lecture to others re their ADHD. Particularly so when scientific research does not show that sugar causes or directly worsens ADHD.Controlled studies comparing sugar and placebos show no difference in behaviour or cognitive function in children with ADHD. While some studies show a link between high sugar intake (such as sugar-sweetened beverages) and ADHD symptoms, this is usually because people with ADHD may struggle with impulse control and crave quick-energy foods.
Controlled double-blind studies disproved the idea that sugar triggers hyperactivity. The perceived high energy is often due to excitement, social settings, or the energy provided by food itself rather than a direct chemical trigger. Studies show that when parents believe their child has consumed sugar, they often perceive the child's behaviour as more hyperactive, even if the child only received a placebo

Boomer55 · 17/10/2026 09:42

AgeingMillennial · 16/10/2026 20:07

Yes I think there will be an environmental cause for the severe non verbal autism we see now, which they will find one day . I follow a mum of a child like this online, she does a LOT of research into it and she’s convinced it’s environmental (has had full gene studies etc)

It shouldn’t be. The air (through cleaner fuel, less factories etc) is better than it used to be.

We have more cars on the road, but they are making the fuel cleaner than it was.

There is virtually no smoking in enclosed spaces now. Younger parents apparently drink much less than used to be the case.

So, unless it’s junk food, screen time, poor medical care at pregnancy/birth, or something else - it does need to be looked at by experts.

It seems odd that so many young children are now classed as disabled. 🤷‍♀️

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/10/15/more-seven-year-olds-on-disability-benefits-50-year-olds/

ThreadGuardDog · 17/10/2026 09:42

AutumnAllTheWay · 16/10/2026 22:07

The problem with discussing this topic is parents of disabled children (understandably) come on and strongly state their case.

This doesnt take away from the fact there are some claiming who shouldnt be. 10% of all children in this country are not disabled enough for it to hold them back.

Poor schooling and lack of opportunities is another matter.

People come here and state their case strongly because they’re getting absolutely fucked off with the attitudes to disabled people being perpetrated by every colour of successive government, picked up on by the media and then spewed out on MN by people who half the time have no connection with disability and have no idea what it entails.

Everything at the moment is geared to cutting benefits and services to the most vulnerable in the country as though these are the people doing the most damage to the economy, when the fact is that they’re the low hanging fruit.

It’s much more difficult to engage fit and able bodied people who simply don’t want to work - and who are costing the country a fortune in benefits. There are huge anomalies in the UC system which allow people to do minimum work for maximum benefit.

None of these issues are being tackled effectively and yet there are not one, but two consultations on the future of disability benefits about to be reported back on. And if the government actually focused on improving the assessment system itself and ensured better decision making, they would save an absolute fortune in unnecessary and hugely expensive appeals tribunals which many claimants have to go through in order to get a fair decision.

The problem is that stopping the people who shouldn’t be claiming will involve restricting benefit rules even further, and that will inevitably screen out genuine levels of disability. That’s the reality for disabled people and the parents of disabled children. Basically they’re waiting to see where the hammer will fall and how badly they will be affected.

roaringdragon · 17/10/2026 10:27

ChatGTF · 17/10/2026 04:52

I might get slated for this but as someone older with a genuine disability I worked until I couldn’t - from literally washing cars at 10, paper round at 13, in a cafe from 14 - 17 then various part time jobs until education finished and I worked full time, sometimes up to 60 hours a week.

I started claiming benefits in my forties and I absolutely hate it, I’m constantly doing anything the job centre send me to get back to work but the problem is they promise reasonable adjustments and from experience I know it just doesn’t happen.

Suddenly we are surrounded by constant armchair psychologists and social media posts telling us that normal behaviour is signs of being neurodivergent and kids aren’t naughty anymore it’s always a sign of autism and ADHD.

You only need to look at old posts on this site from before around 2015 where SEN or being ND is barely mentioned and parenting discussions are completely different.
It comes up on so many threads now where people are struggling to discipline their kids and are told they are masking or it’s the “coke bottle effect” if they behave at school instead of realising they just have clear boundaries at school.

The misunderstanding of gentle parenting and confusion with permissive parenting means kids just don’t get proper discipline and instead parents attempt to reason with them which just causes confusion.

Younger parents see content online and monitor their kids for any signs then decide they have autism or ADHD and parent them differently. Suddenly it’s PDA so they go low demand or iPads are given for self regulation.

My sister has just had a private diagnosis for ADHD for my niece and I’d bet my life on it (from someone who genuinely has it) that she doesn’t have it but they have used the family link and it being hereditary for a diagnosis.
Once she had a diagnosis my sister got hers and again there are no signs and she spent years bullying me for being different to her!
I think my niece has genuine trauma from awful childhood experiences and has struggled with her mental health but she shows no signs of ADHD and I think she is aware of that which is why she used money she doesn’t have to go private when I had clear NHS records.

There is a regular poster on here who lists her child’s milestones every few months then fixates on one tiny thing (like a child repeating lines from a film) and uses language like “scripting” and is obsessed with getting a diagnosis. She has been to see so many different professionals because she’s obviously viewing social media content and if you watch enough of it then something at some point is going to seem familiar.

The autism spectrum is so wide now that people very mildly affected can claim benefits and I think it’s unfair when parents claim it and put limits on a child’s ability to thrive.
I had a friend with 3 kids on DLA for autism and told them constantly that she didn’t expect big results from school because of their disabilities and treated them completely different from peers.
They are now all young adults and two don’t work and claim benefits but the 3rd has graduated university and is looking like they have a bright future because they said they didn’t want to end up a statistic.
I think a big part of that is she has a different dad to the others and had involvement from him and his family to encourage her to do more with her life.

I’m not saying that the rise in awareness is all bad but in some cases it’s been abused and there are so many sources online telling people what to say in order to claim benefits.

Someone who was once my friend admitted she used them herself for her claims and I genuinely believed she was physically disabled to the point she could only take a few steps until she shared her Apple Watch data.
I found it interesting that when she was on holiday in America she was doing up to 30,000 steps a day but I’d never seen her without her stick.

There are obviously people who fiddle the system and genuine cases but I think the difference now is that people are constantly online and seeing things that they think “that sounds like me” like time blindness with ADHD or being an introvert and struggling socially and thinking that makes them autistic.

It also results in trends, there was a thread on here about “sickfluencers” that ended up just being drowned out with cries of “ableism” but it very clearly is a thing.
I had years of bullying and shame and hiding my mental health struggles and now people wear them as a badge and seem keen to have a label, some don’t seem to have caught on so I suffer a lot of stigma so I think it’s great in one way that we are more open about things but I do wonder if the fact that there is a link between autism and ADHD being talked about more and there being more people diagnosed with these illnesses rather than things like bipolar, schizophrenia, personality disorders, psychosis and other less glamorous illnesses.

I guess we will see what pans out in the future but the kids with genuine struggles and disabilities are being doubted or will have to deal with budget cuts due to high numbers of people being over diagnosed and that’s a genuine worry for anyone who is relying on benefits as a last resort.

As someone who was on MN well before 2015, I can tell you, you are wrong. There were parents of DC with SEN then. For a start, in 2013 MN had the ‘This is My Child’ campaign. This was in response to a lot of judgemental attitudes from others. MN is bigger now, but we did exist back then too.

It is clear you don’t even understand the system. You talk about working from 10 and the job centre. That hasn’t got anything to do with DLA (or PIP). DLA/PIP are not out of work benefits and the job centre isn’t involved in assessing claims for them.

Disability benefits are based on needs, not diagnosis. You don’t need a diagnosis and a diagnosis does not automatically mean someone is eligible.

AgeingMillennial · 17/10/2026 10:30

Thatsalineallright · 17/10/2026 09:15

Obviously. That's why I wrote "Not causing them, but worsening symptoms."

But the symptoms are what interferes with quality of life. Would you refuse medication because it doesn't cure ADHD and instead just manages symptoms?

Ok so my son went through a stage at nursery of hitting, poor behaviour, not listening, general hyperactivity.

We totally eliminated TV before nursery (and after - he’s allowed an hour at the weekends only), and changed his breakfast from what we thought was a ‘good’ cereal to porridge with seeds, and his behaviour changed basically overnight. That was a few months ago and he’s like a different child, we just got his nursery report and they commented on how quickly he has ‘progressed’ in his behaviour and they no longer think he needs any kind of assessment or SEN support (they were mentioning this before)

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AgeingMillennial · 17/10/2026 10:30

And if people don’t believe me I’ll post the screenshot. So it can happen.

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AgeingMillennial · 17/10/2026 10:33

roaringdragon · 17/10/2026 10:27

As someone who was on MN well before 2015, I can tell you, you are wrong. There were parents of DC with SEN then. For a start, in 2013 MN had the ‘This is My Child’ campaign. This was in response to a lot of judgemental attitudes from others. MN is bigger now, but we did exist back then too.

It is clear you don’t even understand the system. You talk about working from 10 and the job centre. That hasn’t got anything to do with DLA (or PIP). DLA/PIP are not out of work benefits and the job centre isn’t involved in assessing claims for them.

Disability benefits are based on needs, not diagnosis. You don’t need a diagnosis and a diagnosis does not automatically mean someone is eligible.

But those ‘needs’ can be fabricated. I don’t think the majority of claimants do this but like PP I know a woman who hobbled into her tribunal on a stick who otherwise is an exercise fanatic. Her mother went along for moral support and said she knows it’s not right but doesn’t want to argue with her daughter.

The daughter also has a ‘homeschooled’ child with an array of ND diagnoses which I think are less to do with being ND and more to do with her anxiety inducing upbringing involving a new stepdad and house every 2 minutes and a mum who treats her like a best friend

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Rosegla55es · 17/10/2026 10:35

AgeingMillennial · 17/10/2026 10:30

Ok so my son went through a stage at nursery of hitting, poor behaviour, not listening, general hyperactivity.

We totally eliminated TV before nursery (and after - he’s allowed an hour at the weekends only), and changed his breakfast from what we thought was a ‘good’ cereal to porridge with seeds, and his behaviour changed basically overnight. That was a few months ago and he’s like a different child, we just got his nursery report and they commented on how quickly he has ‘progressed’ in his behaviour and they no longer think he needs any kind of assessment or SEN support (they were mentioning this before)

🤣The idea that we just feed kids chai seeds and SEND disappears. My dc have never hurt anybody or been poorly behaved in school so no need for life changing porridge here 😏 , they’re still living with lives severely impacted by autism and adhd.

roaringdragon · 17/10/2026 10:35

AgeingMillennial · 17/10/2026 10:33

But those ‘needs’ can be fabricated. I don’t think the majority of claimants do this but like PP I know a woman who hobbled into her tribunal on a stick who otherwise is an exercise fanatic. Her mother went along for moral support and said she knows it’s not right but doesn’t want to argue with her daughter.

The daughter also has a ‘homeschooled’ child with an array of ND diagnoses which I think are less to do with being ND and more to do with her anxiety inducing upbringing involving a new stepdad and house every 2 minutes and a mum who treats her like a best friend

DLA claims require evidence. DLA isn’t awarded just because the parent says the child had XYZ needs.

AgeingMillennial · 17/10/2026 10:36

roaringdragon · 17/10/2026 10:35

DLA claims require evidence. DLA isn’t awarded just because the parent says the child had XYZ needs.

Yes I’m aware of that.

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roaringdragon · 17/10/2026 10:42

AgeingMillennial · 17/10/2026 10:36

Yes I’m aware of that.

Then you will be aware that it doesn’t matter is parents ‘fabricate’ needs on the form, they won’t have the evidence to support those claims.

roaringdragon · 17/10/2026 10:43

DS1 is a teen with an ongoing PIP award. He has complex needs. He still hits, bites, kicks. He doesn’t watch TV. His diet (mostly via enteral feeds - a mix of prescribed feeds and blended diet, he rarely eats orally) is monitored by professionals and he is allergic to many seeds. I would love for it to be as simple as eliminating TV and feeding him porridge with seeds.

x2boys · 17/10/2026 10:43

AgeingMillennial · 17/10/2026 10:30

Ok so my son went through a stage at nursery of hitting, poor behaviour, not listening, general hyperactivity.

We totally eliminated TV before nursery (and after - he’s allowed an hour at the weekends only), and changed his breakfast from what we thought was a ‘good’ cereal to porridge with seeds, and his behaviour changed basically overnight. That was a few months ago and he’s like a different child, we just got his nursery report and they commented on how quickly he has ‘progressed’ in his behaviour and they no longer think he needs any kind of assessment or SEN support (they were mentioning this before)

Good for your son do you think Chai seeds will grow back the deleted piece if chromosome 16 for my son that is tjought to be the underlying reason for his complex disabillities🤔

Quine0nline · 17/10/2026 10:46

Do the stats from other comparable developed countries emulated those of the UK?
Is it possible to drill into the UK stats of diagnosis by postcode. Is the rise related to urban/rural; affluent/poor?

Catsandcwtches · 17/10/2026 10:48

AgeingMillennial · 17/10/2026 10:30

Ok so my son went through a stage at nursery of hitting, poor behaviour, not listening, general hyperactivity.

We totally eliminated TV before nursery (and after - he’s allowed an hour at the weekends only), and changed his breakfast from what we thought was a ‘good’ cereal to porridge with seeds, and his behaviour changed basically overnight. That was a few months ago and he’s like a different child, we just got his nursery report and they commented on how quickly he has ‘progressed’ in his behaviour and they no longer think he needs any kind of assessment or SEN support (they were mentioning this before)

@AgeingMillennial I’m tired of this narrative that a SEN diagnosis is to do with ‘poor behaviour’

My son has ASD and his teacher recently said he is a delight to teach. He listens, he is kind to others, he isn’t naughty at school. Sometimes he gets so distressed he threatens to kill himself at home though. Is that ‘poor behaviour’?

I volunteer with older children with severe special needs and they are actually very polite and kind to each other. Some are in their own worlds and have very few words but again not badly behaved. Do you have any experience of children with disabilities?

Sartre · 17/10/2026 10:50

Parents are getting older. I don’t think we need a scientific study to understand the correlation. Older sperm > higher risk of autism. So many people are waiting till 40+ to conceive.

SleeplessInWherever · 17/10/2026 10:56

x2boys · 17/10/2026 10:43

Good for your son do you think Chai seeds will grow back the deleted piece if chromosome 16 for my son that is tjought to be the underlying reason for his complex disabillities🤔

In fairness, chai seeds might be one of the few things I’ve not tried. 😂

x2boys · 17/10/2026 10:57

SleeplessInWherever · 17/10/2026 10:56

In fairness, chai seeds might be one of the few things I’ve not tried. 😂

Maybe we should 😂

frozendaisy · 17/10/2026 11:02

More informed families (thanks to information sharing on the World Wide Web) realising they can get benefit help for their children?

50 year olds more likely to not need additional money, or are working (struggling maybe but working) so don’t qualify or decide the amount of information required not worth the application?

The Government are debating this in Parliament shortly. I am sure they have done the research.

Perhaps more help when children are younger, access to new treatments and drugs will help keep them out of prison later (which is much more expensive, because the prison population is overrepresented with people with ADHD who might not have ended up there if they were treated earlier?

frozendaisy · 17/10/2026 11:11

I have an old school friend, known for over 40 years and her whole life has been lived on disability benefits. And by lord it’s miserable.

So if you, your children are not part of the group needing disability benefits you should be thankful.

Some parents will entrap their children on benefits because they want the money now, that should be sniffed out and schools do try. But the vast majority of parents claiming benefits for their children do so to try and give them a better chance in life because they have complex worries about what will happen when they can no longer advocate for their child. This is not a parental position to be envious of or want to make harder.

Can society support the seemingly increase in need? Well we need to try for everyone.