To think an apply turnover is not a bun?

[RikthePoet]

Look, it's all regional and cultural and there are a million names for a bread roll and no-one has the right to judge and everything...

But someone said on another thread that a fairy cake with no icing is a bun (I mean, no, but let's go with it) and a currant bun is part of a different related category - the "sticky bun".

And also included in sticky buns are... doughnuts and... apple turnovers.

So, sure, it's all relative and whatever but... an apple turnover is not a bun, right?

Are you a Sheldon Cooper fan? I bet you call socks ‘hosiery’.

I’m going to have to disagree with some; a fairy cake, iced or not is a cake not a bun. The clue is in the name. It’s not a fairy bun. I grew up calling those little cases “paper cases”. maybe since Cinnamon buns have become popular people have started using the word bun more (incorrectly imo!)

Apple turnover a pastry, buns have a bready base, such as hot cross and Belgian.

@Lougle
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I can't believe I'm taking pictures of cake cases, rather than getting ready for work, but I rather like small cakes being called 'fancies'

No argument with that at all!

Where I am in Ireland, fairy cakes aka queen cakes are buns. With the tops made into wings placed onto a spoonful of jam and cream they’re called butterfly buns.

This is the maddest post on the thread.

What else are you chucking in that "bun bag"?

Cheery Bakewells? Caramel slices? Mars bars?

Well she has a point.

If a Danish is a pastry as well as a bun.

If a fairy cake is a cake as well as a bun.

Then it means those things fall into multiple categories.

What’s mad about that?

Speaking as someone for whom eating cakes brings much happiness, I love the idea of a cheery bakewell!

It’s a regional thing. I’m a southerner, and a Yorkshire friend of mine always referred to what I’d call fairy cakes, as buns.

There are often regional differences in names for food items. That doesn’t make them wrong.

I think your mistake may be expecting logic to apply to the nomenclature of baked goods. That is a fool’s errand.

Literally the first sentence on the thread...

I think a fairy cake is a small cake with glacé icing and sprinkles/silver balls/a wafer flower/ cherry on.

A cupcake is a small cake with butter icing on.

A butterfly cake is a small cake with "wings"
A muffin is bigger with either fruit or chocolate chips in. Sometimes jam/curd in the middle. Mostly un-iced, or a very small amount.

Well, a Danish pastry isn't a bun and a fairy cake isn't a bun, so...?

What would you expect if you asked for some pastries? I'd take it to mean croissants/pain au chocolate. Maybe turnovers or cinnamon swirls. But definitely sweet.

Cupcakes are typically bigger than fairy cakes, and often have a lot of piled up icing, which is often garishly coloured, too.

Another import from across the pond we could have done without.

Hotdog is clearly a Taco

Yeah, croissant, pain au Chocolat...breakfast pastries I suppose!

A scone is only ever a scone surely?

Fairy cakes are not buns, with or without icing. They are cake, sponge cake. Made in cake tins, not bun tins.

Buns are more bread like. 😁

Exactly. As a pp pointed out upthread, buns contain yeast and are bread-y. They can be iced (hence iced buns).

Fairy cakes are made of sponge cake mixture. They are not buns, regardless of whether they are iced or not.

I think we all agree that an apple turnover is a pastry.

Fairy cakes are made of sponge cake mixture. They are not buns, regardless of whether they are iced or not.

They’re definitely buns where I am (Ireland)!
If you asked for a bun it would be much less likely to be understood as a yeasty teacake sort of item.

Hang on, let me get my head round this.

I make cake mixture, and I put spoonfuls of it into a bun tin lined with bun cases. But the result is... not buns? That defies the laws of physics surely?

I am ignoring the comment that a sandwich must be cold otherwise it's not a sandwich, for fear my fishfinger sandwich will go cold and therefore become a sandwich, and I think that one's in the realms of quantum mechanics frankly.

What’s the difference between bun mix and cake mix?

A bun is bread like in my opinion burger bun, hot cross buns, iced buns. Weirdly I wouldn’t include scones as buns, as not risen with yeast so not the same texture?

An un iced fairy cake is a disappointment but still a cake. Apple turnovers are pastry.