To think an apply turnover is not a bun?

[RikthePoet]

Look, it's all regional and cultural and there are a million names for a bread roll and no-one has the right to judge and everything...

But someone said on another thread that a fairy cake with no icing is a bun (I mean, no, but let's go with it) and a currant bun is part of a different related category - the "sticky bun".

And also included in sticky buns are... doughnuts and... apple turnovers.

So, sure, it's all relative and whatever but... an apple turnover is not a bun, right?

Fair point.

Not really.

Buns are a yeasted dough. End of.

'What's 'apply'? Well, it's like goldy and bronzy, only it's made of apples' - Baldrick, probably.

I'm usually very good at spelling.

This.
A bun is bread, sweet or savoury.
A cake is a cake, iced or not.
An apple turnover is a pastry alongside danishes, cinnamon whirls and the like as they are pastry based.

Cake:

Bun:

That's a bun made of cake.

Does not compute.

Madness!

You're doing real harm to the credibility of the Turnovers Aren't Buns movement.

That's a bread roll made of bread.

Buns:

Subway sell filled bread rolls.

It's a burger bun.

Subway sells submarine sandwiches (by the sea shore).

No it’s a cake made out of cake. You don’t need the word bun because it is a cake

Apple turnover:

In my world, cakes are cooked in cake tins but fairy cakes are cooked in bun cases in bun tins.

A fairy cake is a bun, with or without icing.

An apple turnover is a pastry, as is a cinnamon bun. But obviously Chelsea buns and bath buns are buns.

Otherwise known as open - ie one slice with more of a topping than a filling

turnovers are still not buns though

@RikthePoet I have heard on very good authority that sealions make buncakes out of fish.

So where I'm from a fairy cake and anything of that size whether iced or not would be a bun. We don't call any type of bread a bun it would be a bread cake or a roll. A cinnamon roll and a apple turnover would be a pastry

Why is it not called a fairy bun then? The name is cake (iced or not)

If cook a tray bake cake and cut that into individual pieces, are they buns?

Mince pies are cooked in bun tins, as are jam tarts, and (often) Yorkshire puddings.

A bun tray doesn't only produce buns.