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Christa Pikes is awake and ‘talking’

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wouldntyouwanthelp · 06/10/2026 22:32

She’s out of the coma and talking to her lawyers. Aibu to think the state of Tennessee can’t possibly try to do the lethal injection again ? Surely not? People on Reddit are suggesting she might need an amputation of one of her arms because of how caustic pentobarbital is.

Christa Pike 'conscious and speaking at hospital' after failed execution in US
https://news.sky.com/share/13595950

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Darkermornings · 07/10/2026 08:11

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 06/10/2026 23:49

She was 18, with a history of severe trauma. Had she been sentenced here, she’d almost certainly be out by now.

Instead she’s been on death row, and now been poisoned. I think she’s been punished enough.

Most people who commit terrible murders have awful back stories filled with trauma. Most people who commit crimes have had difficult lives. They still need to be punished with due severity for terrible crimes both to keep the public safe from them and to deter similar crimes.

If we gave short sentences to people with sad backstories our prisons would be emptier but there would be a lot more victims and society would be a lot less safe.

Darkermornings · 07/10/2026 08:13

OtterlyAstounding · 07/10/2026 07:19

I'm dreadfully dangerous on a dark night...if you're a murderer.
(No, not really. I imagine a murderer would best me.)

Personally, I'm not really sure that LWOP, spending decades trapped in the prison system, caged like an animal in amongst other violent people, and unable to ever live an actual life, is more humane than a swift death.

I also think this. I would much rather be executed than live in a max security prison. They are truly terrifying and dangerous places. Presumably lots of lifers think so too which is why suicide watch is a thing.

OtterlyAstounding · 07/10/2026 08:13

LadyBlueberry · 07/10/2026 07:50

Yes, I do think there are cases were mitigating circumstances should be taken into account but a bad childhood is not one of them, unless the accussed is in the dock for murdering the person who gave them that bad childhood.

I would also accept that mitigating circumstances should be taken into account if the murderer killed someone who was attacking them or someone else.

I would also accept mitigating circumstances should be taken into account if the death caused was accidental.

There would be other circumstances in which I would accept mitigating circumstances.

However, a bad childhood would not be one of them. Many thousands of people have bad childhoods and don't feel the need to kill or abuse others as a consequence.

It is a dangerous discount card to give to anyone and people-rapists and serial killers will use it.

Levi Bellfield had a bad child hood-should he be considered a victim and have that taken into account? I say no and I Imagine you do too but if we continue down the line of pleading for rapists and killers who had a bad child hood, people like him will present themselves as a victim.

So, that's a bad thing and another bad thing will be that every Tom, Dick and Harry will jump on the bandwaggon and discover that they too had a bad child hood,

Bad childhood does not mean you can rape and kill and then expect that to be taken into account and I am very surprised that any woman would think it should.

But it takes all sorts I suppose and, sadly, the bleeding heart these days seems to have the loudest voice.

Agreed!

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 07/10/2026 08:15

For context, if you read the report on Pike's childhood, it really isn't surprising she turned out savage. She had no moral education and her life-experience was almost unremittingly savage

nashvillebanner.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/Dr.-Brand-Forensic-Psychological-Evaluation_Christa-Pike_07.29.23.pdf

It can be summed up
As a very small child she was taken to the slaughter house when her grandfather was babysitting her. She put flowers on the animals she took to and petted them, and then saw men brutally killing and disembowelling them in front of her regularly!
At home she was crawling around in a floor covered in dog shit.
All her childhood she was beaten, sometimes savagely. Raped age two orally repeatedly. Beatings. Raped later and her attacker walked free around her. More beatings.
The one person who loved her and she loved, a grandmother (the one whose partner raped her) died slowly and painfully of cancer when she was twelve.
All the many opportunities for intervention were missed, including by a teacher when she drew a picture crying out for help.

All her life she was taught that people beat and rape when they can.
And people are shocked she killed someone who she thought was sleeping with her boyfriend?

her own crime was appalling but it's not unpredictable given what she grew up with. She thought violence was normal and unpunished, because this was all she'd ever seen.

It wasn't until she was on death row that she got any treatment at all for the barbaric functioning of her brutalised brain.

SquirrelMadness · 07/10/2026 08:16

I guess it depends what you think sentencing, prison etc is for. I think it should be primarily for keeping society safe and, in the case of more minor crimes, a deterrent. I don't think it should be for punishment, revenge or retribution.

I don't have sympathy for rapists, child abusers, serial killers etc. I hate listening to people talk about how their childhood was difficult etc, as if that excuses it. But I also don't think that torturing them or depriving them of basic human rights is ok. It's barbaric, it's unnecessary (to me anyway), I don't think it's healthy for society. I'm absolutely in favour of keeping them locked up, forgotten about, away from society so that their victims and victim families can feel safe. So that society can stay safer. That's where I draw the line.

The death penalty is actually a lot more expensive than life without parole. And you can argue that it actually gives the executed a kind of notoriety and media attention that they might not get if they were just in jail for life. The victims families have to continue to read about it, live through it. Personally I don't see how it's good for anyone.

NetZeroZealot · 07/10/2026 08:17

knitnerd90 · 06/10/2026 23:19

Executing Christa pike won't end Colleen's mother's suffering. Her daughter will still be dead. The death penalty is vengeance, not justice.

This

Frequency · 07/10/2026 08:17

Darkermornings · 07/10/2026 08:11

Most people who commit terrible murders have awful back stories filled with trauma. Most people who commit crimes have had difficult lives. They still need to be punished with due severity for terrible crimes both to keep the public safe from them and to deter similar crimes.

If we gave short sentences to people with sad backstories our prisons would be emptier but there would be a lot more victims and society would be a lot less safe.

No one is arguing for a short sentence, but in light of her childhood and the permanent damage she suffered to her brain as a direct result of it, the death penalty is not appropriate.

A long sentence was justified, but to sentence an 18-year-old to death, especially one who has suffered sexual abuse since the age of 2, is barbaric.

A lot of people on this thread and the other one seem to be thinking of Pike as the 50-year-old woman she is today. She was a teenager when the sentence was handed down, only a few months away from being a child.

And as a PP pointed out, the equal role her boyfriend played in the murder is often downplayed and sometimes overlooked entirely. There was less than a year's difference in their ages, and he wasn't a victim of child sex abuse; he got 25 years to life. Pike was sentenced to death.

iwentothemfmountaintop · 07/10/2026 08:18

Hopefully they do it properly this time. Her crimes were absolutely evil and I feel no sympathy for her whatsoever. Plenty of people go through trauma and don’t do what she did!

Darkermornings · 07/10/2026 08:20

BermudaRhombus · 07/10/2026 07:36

Your view seems to be very “one size fits all”. Life is a bit more complicated and nuanced than that. Do you think any mitigating circumstances should ever be taken into account?

The sad truth is that trauma can produce very dangerous people.

You are essentially arguing that dangerous people should be released on the public, creating more victims, bevause you feel
sad about the causes that made the person dangerous.

And it is heartbreaking to think about the trauma that made someone dangerous.

But the main fact needs to remain that they are dangerous and the public needs to be kept safe from them.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 07/10/2026 08:20

@Darkermornings deterrence doesnt work, partly because if the brain is traumatised enough then there can be huge problems connecting cause and effect, partly because impulse control is a problem and partly because as with Pike, violence is normal and you don't see punishment, because 99.9% of violence around you isnt punished. Your bad luck if you get caught.

You need some degree of mentally effective functioning and of seeing violence being punished to think "i better not do this because Im afraid of the consequences".

I believe (not 100%) that countries with the death penalty are not more law abiding / safer than ones without. The USA isnt, at least, compared to many.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 07/10/2026 08:22

I'd argue that effective intervention and removal of criminals and where possible rehabilitation is far more effective in creating a safe society. Safe for everyone.

OtterlyAstounding · 07/10/2026 08:38

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 07/10/2026 08:15

For context, if you read the report on Pike's childhood, it really isn't surprising she turned out savage. She had no moral education and her life-experience was almost unremittingly savage

nashvillebanner.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/Dr.-Brand-Forensic-Psychological-Evaluation_Christa-Pike_07.29.23.pdf

It can be summed up
As a very small child she was taken to the slaughter house when her grandfather was babysitting her. She put flowers on the animals she took to and petted them, and then saw men brutally killing and disembowelling them in front of her regularly!
At home she was crawling around in a floor covered in dog shit.
All her childhood she was beaten, sometimes savagely. Raped age two orally repeatedly. Beatings. Raped later and her attacker walked free around her. More beatings.
The one person who loved her and she loved, a grandmother (the one whose partner raped her) died slowly and painfully of cancer when she was twelve.
All the many opportunities for intervention were missed, including by a teacher when she drew a picture crying out for help.

All her life she was taught that people beat and rape when they can.
And people are shocked she killed someone who she thought was sleeping with her boyfriend?

her own crime was appalling but it's not unpredictable given what she grew up with. She thought violence was normal and unpunished, because this was all she'd ever seen.

It wasn't until she was on death row that she got any treatment at all for the barbaric functioning of her brutalised brain.

That doesn't really make me think it's in anyone's best interests to keep her alive though. She's irreparably damaged, should never be released given that, and if she's not executed, will 'get' to spend the remainder of her pitiful life caged like an animal. Of course, she'll probably be glad for that because the human drive to survive even in terrible conditions is usually pretty strong, but it seems rather cruel to do it.

gannett · 07/10/2026 08:39

The details of Pike's crime aren't actually relevant to the death penalty debate. Nor is the abuse she suffered herself, actually. The death penalty is barbaric because of what it turns those enacting it into. Killing blackens our souls; a state sanctioning killing blackens that society.

The reason the death penalty is immoral is its effect on us, not the ins and outs of what a criminal did or didn't do.

Neither do I think victims' families' feelings should determine punishment. I have extremely violent feelings towards some people I perceive as evil - vengefulness and anger are just parts of being human, but I don't think I should be encouraged to lean into them. If the state is good for anything, it's to ensure that society is guided by higher principles, not just punishment and retribution.

gannett · 07/10/2026 08:41

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 07/10/2026 08:22

I'd argue that effective intervention and removal of criminals and where possible rehabilitation is far more effective in creating a safe society. Safe for everyone.

Exactly.

The carceral system as it is - particularly in America - has so obviously failed to be a deterrent to crime that I'm unsure how anyone can still trot out that line with a straight face.

ZeStreoving · 07/10/2026 08:42

What a shame, Hopefully next time they do the job properly!

Spicysenorita · 07/10/2026 08:43

A life for a life

i hope they try a third time!

BermudaRhombus · 07/10/2026 08:46

Darkermornings · 07/10/2026 08:20

The sad truth is that trauma can produce very dangerous people.

You are essentially arguing that dangerous people should be released on the public, creating more victims, bevause you feel
sad about the causes that made the person dangerous.

And it is heartbreaking to think about the trauma that made someone dangerous.

But the main fact needs to remain that they are dangerous and the public needs to be kept safe from them.

I didn’t say anything about releasing people! But I believe that trauma affects people (and especially children) in very different ways and it is appropriate to consider all factors when determining whether an appropriate sentence is death or incarceration.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 07/10/2026 08:47

@OtterlyAstounding I agree with you on this one, although I don't agree with your very black and white view generally on this issue.

It grmly amuses me that the state set the death penalty, treated Pike's mental illnesses, ignored the recorded medical issues, utterly fucked up the execution, sent her to hospital to revive her, and are now talking about another execution, but won't countenance her asking for assisted dying.

Logic? What's logic?

And oh, for people who think poor Slammer's mother should finally have some peace, the state is still holding onto the piece of Slammer's skull and refuse to give it back. She's said she desperately wants it back and buried.

EvieBB · 07/10/2026 08:47

crikeymikey123 · 06/10/2026 22:52

She's suffered enough.

Not as much as Colleen and her family!!

WhatterySquash · 07/10/2026 08:48

localnotail · 07/10/2026 07:45

Its horrendous, I cant even read it - its like something written by Kafka.

I'm totally against death penalty but WTF is wrong with the US if they cant even kill someone off effectively and quickly?

Kafka is spot on, it’s all so awful and surreal. It feels like a cat playing with a mouse. I’m also against the death penalty and it clearly doesn’t work as a deterrent. But there are humane (at least in terms of the physical effects) and efficient methods and this shitshow is inexcusable.

I can concede that in some cases it might be better for everyone involved - the state, society and the person themselves - if a dangerous criminal were to die. But that doesn’t mean the state killing people is ok - I don’t think it is.

I also think the US system where it tends to be dragged out for decades before actually executing someone is pointless. They might as well live and spend that time and money trying to do something useful and be rehabilitated.

BermudaRhombus · 07/10/2026 08:49

Spicysenorita · 07/10/2026 08:43

A life for a life

i hope they try a third time!

Is it always a life for a life?! That’s wild.

ZeStreoving · 07/10/2026 08:50

BermudaRhombus · 07/10/2026 08:49

Is it always a life for a life?! That’s wild.

When it involves murdering someone..... yes.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 07/10/2026 08:53

NeelyOHara · 07/10/2026 06:40

Well no, because the executioners aren’t inflicting torture and murder on someone for fun, unlike Christa did.
What a ludicrous argument. And yes, people derisive to be punished for their crimes, regardless is it was 30 years ago.

You're not aware of last year's firing squad that went wrong, where three trained marksman missed the big target pinned to the left ventricle of the prisoner at short range? They hit other organs.

The autopsy could not explained how this happened. The guy was a cop killer; the opinion of some is that they wanted him to suffer.

So yes, in at least one case it does appear to be for fun.

Spicysenorita · 07/10/2026 08:53

BermudaRhombus · 07/10/2026 08:49

Is it always a life for a life?! That’s wild.

The moment you kill someone so brutally, i agree with the death penalty.

IronEverything · 07/10/2026 08:54

A quick Google search will tell you that surviving an execution doesn't mean your death sentence is gone. They'll just try again.

It is unbelievable that this happened though. I read that she intentionally starved herself for 3 days which was why the drugs didn't work. God knows whether that's true or how she would even know that.

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