Christa Pikes is awake and ‘talking’

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She’s out of the coma and talking to her lawyers. Aibu to think the state of Tennessee can’t possibly try to do the lethal injection again ? Surely not? People on Reddit are suggesting she might need an amputation of one of her arms because of how caustic pentobarbital is.

Christa Pike 'conscious and speaking at hospital' after failed execution in US
https://news.sky.com/share/13595950

Not as much as her poor victim who was tortured to death whilst pleading for her life.

She was 18 at the time , an adult.

Why let such fripperies get in the way of a damn good hanging ?

We could reintroduce the Newgate specials on the underground. People could dress up in period costume and recall the good old days of 1868 when you could get a tube to the jig and back, have a pie and pint and still have change from a shilling.

I might do. 😂

The rules of engagement forbid shooting at someone who is helpless and unable to defend themselves, so I imagine it probably would cause them major qualms.

This is true. But that is going into another much longer conversation.

No , but most 18 years old know that torturing a human being to death for over 30 minutes is wrong.

Human kind really is fucked if a young adult doesn’t know that by 18. An adult.

It’s shameful the victims family have to go through this seeing this murderer become a victim.

Clearly many people , not necessarily on here, have not even read up on her crimes whilst saying how sorry they feel for her.

To be fair, that doesn't apply to Americans.

I posted her crime on here. So everyone could see.

I am blown away but the sympathy that is being shown here for someone who tortured and murdered someone over jealousy with added bonus of it all also being pre meditated too.

Yeah her life was horrific as a child, but seriously this person is a monster for what she did to that woman. You cannot say she didn’t know right from wrong because she even knew the abuse she endured was wrong hence telling people she thought she could trust. The report I just read done by someone who assessed her shows she knew right from wrong. Yet some posters on here have said she may not have known right from wrong…. 😑

OK, why that one? What would be the rule: mentally ill and non- white?

Here you are implying what I have said.

I know what she did. It does not excuse the grotesque barbarism of what happened to her. If we condone this, we join her in the hellscape of human depravity.

@Fortuityanother person saying this and has said what I said was being said.

which has no place on Mumsnet.

@Fortuityyou see you mention this a lot

@Fortuity🧐

I wouldn't excuse what she has done but as a Brit I suspect that if she had committed the same crime here she could possibly be out by now, it's rare to get a whole life tariff here and she has spent 30 years in solitary.

She hasn't gotten away with anything.

What you and the other blood thirsty are battling with, is our and other civilised countries, reaction to the death penalty in the first place. It has no place in modern society - especially like this.

I will die on this hill, at 54 I won't change my mind on this ever.

But by the standards of the time, in the example I gave you, there was no doubt. There were witnesses, evidence, even a confession! How do you know that future technology won't be invented that will prove that a number of people convicted now are not also innocent? "No doubt" is either not measurable, or needs qualification because it is not an achievable target. Otherwise you're accepting that your method will kill innocent people.

I do agree with the death penalty. I would want it for anybody that murdered my son.

However, would I feel as a mother that justice had been served? No, I don’t think justice, in cases such as this, actually exists. Lock her up for life? She still has a life. Execute her? Well, I’m still living with the pain of what she did. Will either of those options bring back the victim? Of course not. So, there is no justice.

What should happened to Christa Pike? I simply don’t care. I don’t care what happens to people like her. But I don’t believe that whatever they do, will ever be ‘justice’.

I have read the entire thread, the entire discussion between you and @Fortuity , and you seem to be completely unable to understand even the basics. You have been disputed by multiple people, not just @Fortuity . Your argumentation consists entirely of mindlessly repeating your point and not listening. Again and again and again. You have failed entirely to convince me and others because you seem unable to engage in reasonable discussion. It's gotten bloody boring.

Bloody boring yet decided to quote me on a thread. Why bother trying to belittle me if I’m boring. Just keep out of it?

I am allowed to express how I feel and what I believe about something as everyone is.

See I disagree. I would want them to live the rest of their life with what they’ve done. To suffer a lifetime of incarceration, locked up with other criminals, no freedom.

death is too easy. The death penalty allows them to be free from their crimes. Unless you believe in some sort of hell where they’ll be punished for eternity, I’d rather they spent time on earth being punished.