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Christa Pikes is awake and ‘talking’

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wouldntyouwanthelp · 06/10/2026 22:32

She’s out of the coma and talking to her lawyers. Aibu to think the state of Tennessee can’t possibly try to do the lethal injection again ? Surely not? People on Reddit are suggesting she might need an amputation of one of her arms because of how caustic pentobarbital is.

Christa Pike 'conscious and speaking at hospital' after failed execution in US
https://news.sky.com/share/13595950

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AlwaysExtraHot · 07/10/2026 11:51

dustabsorber · 06/10/2026 22:52

I am surprised that since they are such god-fearing folks down there that they just don't accept that it is divine intervention and commute her sentence.

Yes, I always find it interesting what people decide God has weighed in on and what not.

Cadeaukatze · 07/10/2026 11:52

Fredabasset · 07/10/2026 10:59

But he made a good living out of it at the time. He said that because he didn't believe that it acted as a deterrent.
His work also included executing 100's of Nazi War Criminals BTW

I don't think "hundreds" of Nazi war criminals were executed. Even Albert Speer was jailed. Very few were hanged and a few like Goering committed* suicide.

*I know we don't use "committed suicide" anymore but in this case I think it's appropriate wording

AlwaysExtraHot · 07/10/2026 11:54

Bonden · 07/10/2026 00:44

That’s why we have objective laws and why grieving parents do not decide on punishments. It’s just unfortunate that America is barbaric in having the death penalty

That’s why we have objective laws and why grieving parents do not decide on punishments.
Exactly this.

SerendipityJane · 07/10/2026 11:54

Also, killing isn't always a crime, and there are exceptions. I believe self-defence isn't considered criminal, for example.

Anyone who considers me a bleeding heart liberal hasn't heard me quietly congratulate the police when - sadly - they have had to use deadly force to protect us.

I may not support capital punishment. But I have zero problem if a person waving a deadly weapon around in public ends up permanently unable to hurt anyone.

And I've said on another thread that this all applies to peacetime. In war, sadly, the rules may not be quite so refined. Which I take to be a good reason not to go to war.

SilHoarderandJudged · 07/10/2026 11:54

Bourneyesterday · 07/10/2026 08:00

She has been tortured and hurt since the moment she was born up until now. She was born with alcohol fetal syndrome and had regular seizures that she received no treatment for. She was raped, abused and neglected from when she was a baby. Then she hurts someone else and is on solitary confinement on death row for 31 years and tortured. She should be helped as much as possible and released.

She should never be released, but I agree with the rest of your post.

She needs support but she also needs to be kept locked away to protect others.

SerendipityJane · 07/10/2026 11:56

honeyytoast · 07/10/2026 11:47

I genuinely hate being the if it was a man person, usually but when child abusers, rapists, murderers etc (who are almost always male) are in the news everyone calls for a long, drawn out torturous execution. She tortured someone to death. I’m actually against the death penalty myself, for all criminals. But I can’t help noticing some hypocrisy in attitudes here?

I guess I’m wondering if this happened to say Wayne Couzens for example, would people be saying he ‘suffered enough’? You could privately think he deserved it, but still say that this is barbaric and not right I guess. If people would genuinely treat other cases the same way then fair enough.

Hope that makes sense, not trying to start an argument but it’s odd to me.

Of course own own dear Ruth Ellis raised similar issues.

Yetanotherone12 · 07/10/2026 11:56

MrsShawnHatosy · 07/10/2026 11:44

No it doesn’t excuse her torturing and murdering someone. But it should mean she should not be executed.

What does executing her actually do though? Except supposedly put the fear of it into others, which it clearly doesn’t if you look at the homicide stats in areas with the death penalty.

you’ve got this woman who has been taught all her life that hurting other people is normal. So when she hurts someone herself, the response is more physical punishment?

it’s just confirmation that hurting someone is normal. She kills someone, she gets killed.

sh goes to her death not learning what she did is wrong. That inflicting pain on others in not normal human behavior- it’s just reinforced all her life lessons that pain and suffering is what humans do to each other.

a life sentence, otoh, gives her a chance to learn that her life was not normal, that pain, suffering and abuse is not normal. If she can learn that then she will then have to live with remorse and regret that her life could have been different, and she did not need to inflict the suffering on her victim that she had experienced.

seems a more fitting punishment.

i can understand why she asked for a female environment at her execution. The vast majority of her pain was at the hands of men.

RedPony1 · 07/10/2026 11:58

I don't agree with the death penalty, ever. Life for a life is not where i sit with it at all.

I doubt very much even if they wanted to try a third time, that they would be able to. Her lawyers are definitely already working on making sure it never happens again, and quite rightly so.

ThereAreOnlyShadesOfGrey · 07/10/2026 11:58

I think that whether someone’s childhood or past experience should be taken into account depends on various factors.

I think we can all acknowledge that nobody who brutally murders someone is mentally normal, and often that not normal has an underlying cause. That doesn’t justify it, it merely goes some way towards explaining how some people become the people they become.

When you look at someone like Rose west or Levi Bellfield, as horrendous a childhood as they might have had, by the time they committed the crimes they did, they weren’t children, they were grown adults, with families of their own, whom they were also abusing in many instances.

By that time they had become members of society, enough so to know that they needed to act normally in front of people while carrying out their crimes in secret. By then their childhoods were decades behind them.

But Christa Pike was to all intents and purposes still a child. All she’d ever known was violence. She was at a training facility for troubled teens, the kind of people around her were also the kinds who have probably only ever known violence.

Coleen Slemmer was there. We don’t know why. But teenagers don’t end up at camps for delinquents without having had something go wrong in their childhood. So for all we know Coleen Slemmer, had she not been killed, could have ended up the same kind of person, and people would have looked at her childhood to blame for that.

And people say that at 18 Christa Pike was old enough to know that what she did was wrong but was she? Did she really? She kept a piece of Coleen’s skull and showed it to people. She made no attempts to cover up what she’d done. That’s not the behaviour of someone who knows that what she’s done is wrong, that’s the behaviour of someone who thinks that that kind of violence is normal. And she has her childhood to blame for that. That cannot be denied.

It’s too easy to just say “she was a bitch, now that she wasn’t able to be killed just smother her and be done. But if we don’t look at how people become the people they become, then we never come closer to prevent such crimes in future.

LakieLady · 07/10/2026 11:58

Cadeaukatze · 07/10/2026 09:43

I don't actually think they can choose not to appeal - if they don't appeal, the state appeals for them.

However, there's no reason for it to all take so long.

But our system isn't much better - we don't have the death penalty but it shouldn't take the length of time it does for someone like Andrew Malkinson to; be vindicated.

Edited

One of the things that led to the abolition of the DP in the UK was the failed execution of a murderer.

They tried to hang him 3 times, and his sentence was commuted to life imprisonment after the third attempt.

Yetanotherone12 · 07/10/2026 12:00

OtterlyAstounding · 07/10/2026 11:44

I mean, I doubt he's a hero as he obviously did something to be imprisoned, but given he's locked safely away from society, then no, I'm not going to be bothered by him killing sex offenders.

Also, killing isn't always a crime, and there are exceptions. I believe self-defence isn't considered criminal, for example.

Maybe I should have clarified “intentional killing”

Realitybitesyerbum · 07/10/2026 12:00

nocoolnamesleft · 06/10/2026 22:50

It's wrong to torture people to death. Even murderers. If you're going to kill them, it should be fast.

They weren't in a hurry when they slowly murdered their poor victim were they? 30 minutes of being slashed, beaten and begging for your life. An eye for an eye.

OtterlyAstounding · 07/10/2026 12:00

Fortuity · 07/10/2026 11:49

In moral terms, you simply cannot say "You must not kill, and we will regard that as heinous crime deserving of serious punishment, but it's absolutely fine for us to kill, of course". It would make you an utter hypocrite.

The state put that man in front of a firing squad, forcing other men to shoot at him. That in itself is revolting, because of its cold blooded nature. What makes it worse is that the state knew perfectly well that the killing method chosen was not foolproof and could cause unimaginable suffering, but decided to go ahead anyway.

The simple fact is that no civilised society should operate the death penalty. I'm delighted that I live in a country that does not permit it.

No, the issue is a person unlawfully and anti-socially killing a fellow citizen.
Killing people is sanctioned in other realms; self-defence, active euthanasia, and the armed forces, for instance.
So it doesn't seem particularly hypocritical to say that if a person runs around unlawfully killing fellow citizens, he will be lawfully killed.

InQuiresandplaceswheretheysing · 07/10/2026 12:00

I think life in prison with absolutely no hope of release is a far worse punishment than the death penalty.

LakieLady · 07/10/2026 12:01

Grammarnut · 07/10/2026 10:24

But death should be swift, not sitting years on death row wondering if today is the last day, nor being injected with poison multiple times until it kills you. Be certain of the verdict, however, before you kill anyone. Death is a thing which cannot be commuted once enacted. (Remembering both David Bentley and Ruth Evans in the UK, neither of whom should have hanged.)

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And Timothy Evans, who was hung for multiple murders committed by John Christie.

OtterlyAstounding · 07/10/2026 12:01

Yetanotherone12 · 07/10/2026 12:00

Maybe I should have clarified “intentional killing”

People can be intentionally trying to kill in self defence, if they think that's the only way they'll survive and escape. I also mentioned in another comment that the armed forces intentionally kills, and so do people in places that have active euthanasia.

Blackwidowsbite · 07/10/2026 12:01

ThereAreOnlyShadesOfGrey · 07/10/2026 11:58

I think that whether someone’s childhood or past experience should be taken into account depends on various factors.

I think we can all acknowledge that nobody who brutally murders someone is mentally normal, and often that not normal has an underlying cause. That doesn’t justify it, it merely goes some way towards explaining how some people become the people they become.

When you look at someone like Rose west or Levi Bellfield, as horrendous a childhood as they might have had, by the time they committed the crimes they did, they weren’t children, they were grown adults, with families of their own, whom they were also abusing in many instances.

By that time they had become members of society, enough so to know that they needed to act normally in front of people while carrying out their crimes in secret. By then their childhoods were decades behind them.

But Christa Pike was to all intents and purposes still a child. All she’d ever known was violence. She was at a training facility for troubled teens, the kind of people around her were also the kinds who have probably only ever known violence.

Coleen Slemmer was there. We don’t know why. But teenagers don’t end up at camps for delinquents without having had something go wrong in their childhood. So for all we know Coleen Slemmer, had she not been killed, could have ended up the same kind of person, and people would have looked at her childhood to blame for that.

And people say that at 18 Christa Pike was old enough to know that what she did was wrong but was she? Did she really? She kept a piece of Coleen’s skull and showed it to people. She made no attempts to cover up what she’d done. That’s not the behaviour of someone who knows that what she’s done is wrong, that’s the behaviour of someone who thinks that that kind of violence is normal. And she has her childhood to blame for that. That cannot be denied.

It’s too easy to just say “she was a bitch, now that she wasn’t able to be killed just smother her and be done. But if we don’t look at how people become the people they become, then we never come closer to prevent such crimes in future.

Wow!! 😮

How can you say that her victim could have ended up being the same as her just because she was in the same troubled teen facility! What the hell have I just read 😳😳😳😳😳😳

OtterlyAstounding · 07/10/2026 12:03

ThereAreOnlyShadesOfGrey · 07/10/2026 11:58

I think that whether someone’s childhood or past experience should be taken into account depends on various factors.

I think we can all acknowledge that nobody who brutally murders someone is mentally normal, and often that not normal has an underlying cause. That doesn’t justify it, it merely goes some way towards explaining how some people become the people they become.

When you look at someone like Rose west or Levi Bellfield, as horrendous a childhood as they might have had, by the time they committed the crimes they did, they weren’t children, they were grown adults, with families of their own, whom they were also abusing in many instances.

By that time they had become members of society, enough so to know that they needed to act normally in front of people while carrying out their crimes in secret. By then their childhoods were decades behind them.

But Christa Pike was to all intents and purposes still a child. All she’d ever known was violence. She was at a training facility for troubled teens, the kind of people around her were also the kinds who have probably only ever known violence.

Coleen Slemmer was there. We don’t know why. But teenagers don’t end up at camps for delinquents without having had something go wrong in their childhood. So for all we know Coleen Slemmer, had she not been killed, could have ended up the same kind of person, and people would have looked at her childhood to blame for that.

And people say that at 18 Christa Pike was old enough to know that what she did was wrong but was she? Did she really? She kept a piece of Coleen’s skull and showed it to people. She made no attempts to cover up what she’d done. That’s not the behaviour of someone who knows that what she’s done is wrong, that’s the behaviour of someone who thinks that that kind of violence is normal. And she has her childhood to blame for that. That cannot be denied.

It’s too easy to just say “she was a bitch, now that she wasn’t able to be killed just smother her and be done. But if we don’t look at how people become the people they become, then we never come closer to prevent such crimes in future.

Coleen Slemmer was there. We don’t know why. But teenagers don’t end up at camps for delinquents without having had something go wrong in their childhood. So for all we know Coleen Slemmer, had she not been killed, could have ended up the same kind of person

Wow.

MissFancyDay · 07/10/2026 12:03

Awkwardisfunny · 07/10/2026 11:36

If their laws determined she should be executed then a failed execution shouldn't nullify that. There are victims to think about. When you commit her crimes, you can't complain if something goes wrong during your execution.

This isn't to say I agree with executions, there just isn't a valid argument here to block another attempt. Had they succeeded, she wouldn't be talking to her lawyers.. maybe next time, they just do it more quickly.

I think there are more than enough reasons to block another attempt of this were to be taking place is a civilised society, which the U.S.A obviously isn't.

Like it or not prisoners have rights, we have laws relating to how we treat people, even the worse people who have seemingly given up all their right to be treated properly. We don't execute them in public or not feed them. We are civilised.

This woman has been abused since she was born, and been on death row for 30 years. Then she was put through the torture of knowing she was to be executed, knowing (or fearing with good reason) that it was going to go wrong) and having it botched. Now possibly losing an arm. She should now live out her life in prison.

Blackwidowsbite · 07/10/2026 12:03

InQuiresandplaceswheretheysing · 07/10/2026 12:00

I think life in prison with absolutely no hope of release is a far worse punishment than the death penalty.

But then what happens when that prison gets full? Where do the newest murderers and rapists, Peadophiles and child abusers go?

Ive read that criminals are being released early because of the lack of ‘space’ in prison.

OtterlyAstounding · 07/10/2026 12:03

Blackwidowsbite · 07/10/2026 12:01

Wow!! 😮

How can you say that her victim could have ended up being the same as her just because she was in the same troubled teen facility! What the hell have I just read 😳😳😳😳😳😳

It's the craziest thing I've read today.

Noodledog · 07/10/2026 12:05

The US constitution actually specifically prohibits "cruel and unusual punishment". So much for that, I guess.

OtterlyAstounding · 07/10/2026 12:06

Cadeaukatze · 07/10/2026 11:52

I don't think "hundreds" of Nazi war criminals were executed. Even Albert Speer was jailed. Very few were hanged and a few like Goering committed* suicide.

*I know we don't use "committed suicide" anymore but in this case I think it's appropriate wording

According to this (pdf) nearly 500 were hanged, which I didn't know.

Edit: Unless that was a typo, and the writer meant '50' - I only had a quick skim.

Blackwidowsbite · 07/10/2026 12:06

OtterlyAstounding · 07/10/2026 12:03

It's the craziest thing I've read today.

Like what the….. 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

Noodledog · 07/10/2026 12:06

Blackwidowsbite · 07/10/2026 12:03

But then what happens when that prison gets full? Where do the newest murderers and rapists, Peadophiles and child abusers go?

Ive read that criminals are being released early because of the lack of ‘space’ in prison.

So just kill them all is presumably the way to go.

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