Would Labour voters be upset if joining the EU meant they could no longer tax children’s education?

[Blarneyspoco]

Taxing children’s education is banned as part of EU membership. If the U.K. rejoined the EU, would Labour supporters be upset that they can no longer levy the tax or would it be seen as a necessary compromise.

I reckon if someone can get agreement in principle from EU on same deal this can be done quite quickly and the EU will be onside. And the sooner the better as the longer it goes on for, the worse for everyone. If we get all young people voting then it will be a yes and it can be tied in to an election for Burnham too. That is clearly where he is heading to cement his position more long term.

Good question. I think yes, I will essentially be voting for anyone I think likely to keep Labour and Greens out.

Then getting back in the EU will be a win win for you 👍

I agree with you on the tax for sure, it was idiotic from Labour. Although how easy it is for Burnham to re-join depends on the French elections too.

How very unsurprising

Idiotic? All the polling suggests it’s their single most popular policy…

It was pure spite and envy from Starmer, Reeves, Philipson et al.

All of them were nursing huge chips on their shoulders.

How is recruitment and retention of the much-promised 6,500 new state school teachers progressing?

Have you seen improvement in a state school? If you use one. All it’s done is close some private schools and made no change here.

Either way it’s likely to go, tg.

Someone just needs to approach the EU and propose the exact same deal we had before leaving and see what they say.

Who says that hasn't happened ?

Also, the EU is terribly pragmatic - arguably too much. With 27 other countries to please there is a lot of wiggle room. Used wisely, that is.

I keep on asking this question on every thread about VAT and can't get the answer...

Btw, the percentage of kids exiting private sector was 3.8% last school year, but entry at transition points was 5-6% lower. State sector numbers show 1.2% drop due to birth rate. It seems that the policy is very close to net fiscal negative impact at this stage.

By the same token, I'd vote to ensure Reform don't get in ....

I'd happily have 1p on income tax to cover scrapping the VAT on private schooling if it meant keeping Comrade Farage well away from power.

I wasn’t implying anything about you. You don’t strike me as fanatical at all, you seem incredibly pragmatic, calm and intelligent with a full objective grasp of facts and easy going nature.

Given all three have been ousted from their jobs I doubt there’s anyone in Labour who’ll fight for their policy.

How much has it raised for the exchequer, please?

True, Rayner has her hands full with her crusade to destroy the housing market.

At least OP has gone back to calling it a tax on education. Yesterday it was a “tax on children’s intelligence”. Gobsmacking on how many levels that nugget showed OP for who she really is.

Taxes aren't just there to raise money though.

They are also there to control the public and ensure the "right" sort of behaviour.

They (taxes) are also there to control the public and ensure the "right" sort of behaviour.

Could you elaborate please, as I don’t understand your post.

Tax on alcohol ?
Tobacco ?

Nudge unit ?

I, too, would like to know.

Oh ok, so educating children is not the right sort of behaviour!

But of course! Who needs children who think differently.

“Who says that hasn't happened ?
Also, the EU is terribly pragmatic - arguably too much. With 27 other countries to please there is a lot of wiggle room. Used wisely, that is.”

@SerendipityJane - well at this point they do actually need us too and there shouldn’t be any rerun of any sort without a pre-agreed framework deal behind closed doors. The political noise at the front is a separate matter. Agree a very clear term sheet based on the previous deal entirely and then put it to the electorate, not ifs not buts. As it cements the idea of Europe as a whole now is absolutely the time to do it and will have a lot of those trying to keep the right out signing up.

Following your logic.

A tax on ‘sin’ goods is arguably net positive, as it reduces costs on the NHS etc (despite a drop in duty). It’s clearly a desirable outcome.

A tax on private education is quite the opposite, given the cost of a state school place is 7-8k per annum.

So, I do not subscribe to your theory.

Alcohol, tobacco and education?

Why do you see those three as similar

Maybe if we rejoin we could follow Finland and make profit on education unlawful - effectively banning private schools?