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Would Labour voters be upset if joining the EU meant they could no longer tax children’s education?

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Blarneyspoco · 04/10/2026 12:03

Taxing children’s education is banned as part of EU membership. If the U.K. rejoined the EU, would Labour supporters be upset that they can no longer levy the tax or would it be seen as a necessary compromise.

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Icantbelieveitsnatcustard · 04/10/2026 16:34

ilovesooty · 04/10/2026 16:18

I agreed with the policy but if dropping it is necessary to rejoin the EU so be it. However they might not want us back and I wouldn't blame them.

I'm just wondering if this take on having to pay for the luxury of private education will run to 1000 posts as well.

Why would Brussels not want the UK to rejoin?

Icantbelieveitsnatcustard · 04/10/2026 16:36

MiniPantherOwner · 04/10/2026 16:29

If we're at some point considering rejoining the EU it should be done on a cost vs benefits analysis of whatever deal we are likely to be able to negotiate. Taxing private schooling is so far down the list of concerns that no one cares.

Quite.

The government could always disclose that the imposition of VAT raised nothing (it was probably a net loss), and so scrapping it would be beneficial.

ilovesooty · 04/10/2026 16:41

Icantbelieveitsnatcustard · 04/10/2026 16:34

Why would Brussels not want the UK to rejoin?

I'm wondering if all the countries would be keen, that's all.

DuncinToffee · 04/10/2026 16:50

nearlylovemyusername · 04/10/2026 15:45

OP, if we rejoin EU, then it bans VAT on education, so Labour will have to scrap it.

Having my popcorn ready and want to see Bridget's face

It's going to take years, by then people will have got used to it. I doubt it will be high on the negotiation table list.

AStonedRose · 04/10/2026 16:54

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IdaGlossop · 04/10/2026 16:55

Icantbelieveitsnatcustard · 04/10/2026 16:34

Why would Brussels not want the UK to rejoin?

We've been a pain in the arse over the years because of British exceptionalism.

storyinside · 04/10/2026 16:56

I'd be delighted to rejoin, if the EU would have us, and I wish they'd get on with it. We did pay VAT on school fees, but only for the last child for her final 2 terms. I think VAT on school fees would be a minor issue in the event of rejoining the EU - is this even a serious question?

5128gap · 04/10/2026 16:57

This is an odd way to approach this question OP. I doubt there's any Labour voters who care about this as much as you do.
Wouldn't you do better asking if people who minded the VAT would vote Labour on the off chance they'd take us back into the EU, on the further off chance it would stop the VAT? That's far more likely a question you'd get strong opinions about. In fact I'm curious myself. Would you?

IdaGlossop · 04/10/2026 16:59

storyinside · 04/10/2026 16:56

I'd be delighted to rejoin, if the EU would have us, and I wish they'd get on with it. We did pay VAT on school fees, but only for the last child for her final 2 terms. I think VAT on school fees would be a minor issue in the event of rejoining the EU - is this even a serious question?

Very serious indeed. This is the third thread of OP's dedicated to this era-defining issue.

AStonedRose · 04/10/2026 17:01

IdaGlossop · 04/10/2026 16:55

We've been a pain in the arse over the years because of British exceptionalism.

Unless certain far-right parties seize control of major economies, I doubt anyone would block it.

There would be some gnashing of teeth, but (to the extent you can even say things like this), Europe loves us for what we are. That slight detachedness is part of our national character, and, for me, the EU was about bringing us closer together while recognising our national differences.

Also, we're the world's fifth or sixth biggest economy, which seems relevant.

storyinside · 04/10/2026 17:08

This thread doesn't make sense anyway OP because pro-EU people are more likely to vote LD (probably). AB stated Brexit has been a disaster. Well, we all know that. The LD's explicitly state they will seek negotiations to begin the process of rejoining.

IdaGlossop · 04/10/2026 17:08

AStonedRose · 04/10/2026 17:01

Unless certain far-right parties seize control of major economies, I doubt anyone would block it.

There would be some gnashing of teeth, but (to the extent you can even say things like this), Europe loves us for what we are. That slight detachedness is part of our national character, and, for me, the EU was about bringing us closer together while recognising our national differences.

Also, we're the world's fifth or sixth biggest economy, which seems relevant.

I have no doubt that we would be accepted back. Most people I know from EU countries were shocked and upset when we left, with some thinking we'd lost our marbles.

Unfortunately, the risk of far-right parties seizing Germany and France is high. If they do, we have to hope they learn from the pragmatism of Giorgia Meloni. As well as the risk of the UK being blocked from re-entering, there is the discomfort some would feel about the direction a right-driven EU might take.

Blarneyspoco · 04/10/2026 17:10

IdaGlossop · 04/10/2026 16:55

We've been a pain in the arse over the years because of British exceptionalism.

If you read the some of the posts on here it seems no lessons have been learnt at all from Brexit, apparently the rules won’t apply to us and will be negotiable. Nice to know we still hold all the cards.

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Icantbelieveitsnatcustard · 04/10/2026 17:13

ilovesooty · 04/10/2026 16:41

I'm wondering if all the countries would be keen, that's all.

Well, France is normally the enfant terrible.

That said, the EU today, is not the same EU it was ten years ago, both in an economic, and a political sense.

I think that Burnham believes that by rejoining, all of the UK’s structural economic woes will be resolved. They will not.

SerendipityJane · 04/10/2026 17:18

MiniPantherOwner · 04/10/2026 16:29

If we're at some point considering rejoining the EU it should be done on a cost vs benefits analysis of whatever deal we are likely to be able to negotiate. Taxing private schooling is so far down the list of concerns that no one cares.

Careful. You'll be wanting evidence based policy next.

IdaGlossop · 04/10/2026 17:21

Blarneyspoco · 04/10/2026 17:10

If you read the some of the posts on here it seems no lessons have been learnt at all from Brexit, apparently the rules won’t apply to us and will be negotiable. Nice to know we still hold all the cards.

Going into negotiations believing we hold all the cards would expose us for fools. A little humility would not go amiss.

Blarneyspoco · 04/10/2026 17:22

Icantbelieveitsnatcustard · 04/10/2026 17:13

Well, France is normally the enfant terrible.

That said, the EU today, is not the same EU it was ten years ago, both in an economic, and a political sense.

I think that Burnham believes that by rejoining, all of the UK’s structural economic woes will be resolved. They will not.

Each country gets a veto and some of those countries want something in return, last time we joined the EEC France did a last minute ‘Fish grab’. With the threat of war hanging over the EU, they might be keen to just have another nuclear power and large economy back in the fold.

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Araminta1004 · 04/10/2026 17:25

OP if the Tories promise to scrap VAT immediately on private education but also promise to not rerun the EU question, will you vote for them?

Araminta1004 · 04/10/2026 17:27

Someone just needs to approach the EU and propose the exact same deal we had before leaving and see what they say. That is what Barnier had implied. It would simplify absolutely everything both for the EU politically and the British population.

Araminta1004 · 04/10/2026 17:27

We cannot rerun based on a hypothetical deal. That much everyone will have learnt from the previous time.

Freshrain · 04/10/2026 17:29

Didn't enough people explain to you yesterday that there is no such thing as a children's education tax ?
Why come back again with this nonsense ?

nearlylovemyusername · 04/10/2026 17:29

DuncinToffee · 04/10/2026 16:50

It's going to take years, by then people will have got used to it. I doubt it will be high on the negotiation table list.

I bet they'd want a quick re-entry - otherwise benefits won't materialise in their next parliament and they will face rather unfortunate situation. Rejoining can be done quickly because we haven't moved that far from EU legislation and I'm dead sure EU will play a hard ball with no opt outs (rightly so), apart from possibly Euro.

I really want to see Labour crawl back to their hole with this stupid tax.

Blarneyspoco · 04/10/2026 17:30

IglesiasPiggl · 04/10/2026 15:44

I couldn't care less whether there's VAT on private education or not, the same way I don't care what duty is put on cigarettes. Neither affects my life. I don't know which parties are for it and which are against it. I care much more about Brexit and being in the EU.

That’s reassuring to hear, some people are incredibly fanatical about the idea of taxing some children’s education. I got the impression it was a Labour supporter wide point of view.

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Butterflyfluff · 04/10/2026 17:35

some people are incredibly fanatical about the idea of taxing some children’s education

This is your problem OP - no one is ‘fanatical’ about VAT on private school fees - most people couldn’t give a shiny shite.

The only fanatical person around here is you.

IdaGlossop · 04/10/2026 17:35

Andy Burnham was quite clear in his conference speech that he wanted to start discussions about the UK becoming closer to the EU, with the outcome of the discussions being reflected in the next Labour manifesto. He referred to different options, one of which might be rejoining. There are numerous others.

What he didn't say was that with no mandate and no referendum, he would take the UK back in.