Would Labour voters be upset if joining the EU meant they could no longer tax children’s education?

[Blarneyspoco]

Taxing children’s education is banned as part of EU membership. If the U.K. rejoined the EU, would Labour supporters be upset that they can no longer levy the tax or would it be seen as a necessary compromise.

Private education is a subset of education. Does that make it clearer for you? I could draw a diagram if you like

Correct, so it’s education right? We’ve made a breakthrough @randomchap

A diagram from a guy or not the EU doesn’t differentiate with their no tax on education policy.

The difference is you sell the house and get your money back, if you’re lucky you make a profit. The real equivalence would be renting a house in the naice part of town where the schools are excellent and have low numbers of challenging pupils.

It's a subset, so saying a tax on education is misleading. Saying a tax on private education isn't misleading.

Why are you so dogmatic and obsessed about this @Blarneyspoco ?

And please answer my question about why you keep name changing?

Are you struggling, or do you enjoy writing rage bait posts?

Yes this is the type of answer I was referring to if you ask why people want to tax children’s education.

Why don't you answer the questions? This is a forum, a place for discussion and yet you are steadfastly refusing to engage and debate. Just endlessly repeating the same, misleading, phrases

No it’s correct and accurate, it’s a tax on education. Saying it’s not a tax on education is incorrect and misleading.

No it’s correct and accurate, it’s a tax on education. Saying it’s not a tax on education is incorrect and misleading.

Did you fail English GCSE?

Saying it is a tax on education implies that it is a tax on all education
You are talking about tax on PRIVATE education or PAID FOR education.

Your efforts are very misleading and why are you averse to using the word "private"?

What is wrong with you?

I answered the question saying I don’t know why people want to tax children’s education, I then described the type of aggressive non sensical answers you get when you ask someone who does. Three minutes later you wrote an aggressive non sensical response without any substance as to why you wish to tax children’s education, pretty much proving my point.

FFS - don’t you have to actually do some work to earn your £100k plus salary OP?

Aggressive? I've been nothing but polite.

It's nonsensical by the way, not non sensical.

Your single track dogmatic mind and inability to understand what everyone else is advising you is concerning.

I don’t know why people want to tax children’s education

They don't. They are taxing PRIVATE education.

Do you never accept that you are wrong sometimes? Has it not dawned on you that in a thread of hundreds of posts that you are the only one with that view. Does it not tell you something?

We are going round in circles with this.

Why don't you start a petition?

I think the OP is a fantasist. I don't believe they are on a high salary. They sound unemployable.

The irony is that if these big private school were the ruthless businesses that they are made out to be, surely they would have gotten themselves into massive group chains immediately and written off VAT and actually structured around this. The fact most just passed it own at 20 per cent proves that they are more typical educator mindset slow, bureaucratic etc and treating it all like a temporary blip like Covid. Maybe some of them are more politically connected and knew this was always going to be a temporary stunt for a few years by the baying Labour types.

I reckon the OP just felt personally attacked - I mean a lot of people felt like that during austerity or felt like that about Brexit.

It was a nonsense policy that just played well and hasn’t raised any money for state. Hopefully it’ll be gone at some point now the keen politicians who decided to do it have gone.

It's a failed policy and I expect just like every other Starmer policy it will just get reversed at some point in the future. Linking the reversal to rejoining would just give Labour someone to blame other than themselves

You can only do that, with buying then selling the house, if your income is enough for the mortgage on the expensive house.
Saving up £700 per month during the first 11 years of your only-child's life while they go to state primary school and then drawing down from those savings along with continued £700 per month during 7 years of senior school makes private senior schooling affordable for £8,400 per year. £8,400 per year more in mortgage payments makes a borrowing difference of about £130,000 in the amount you can borrow, but (a) that doesn't help if the price difference for houses in the different areas is more like £300,000 then that might be out of reach anyway and (b) if the banks will only lend to you an amount that maximises your uplift to £90,000 it wouldn't help that much anyway and you're better off with the cheaper house.

@EasternStandard - but why didn’t private schools get together and play more hard ball? I mean could they have withdrawn their entire cohort from eg Pisa testing to make a point etc- they seemed to have just bent over backwards and passed it on. And it’s the middle class sharp elbowed exodus that made the fuss and voted with their feet, seems to me. And I don’t recognise this disgruntled ex private school parent much. DD2 has plenty in her grammar sixth form and they are all delighted with state and saving money and pleasantly surprised by the quality and commitment of state school teachers and management - who have had to learn to survive despite politics!

No I didn’t fail English. The policy has removed the tax exemption for children’s education, thereby making children’s education taxable. So children's education is now taxable.

I think the fact you are getting so angry that you are resorting to insulting me over this is a bit crazy to be honest. No you don’t pay VAT on something you don’t pay for at point of use, you can’t expect people to put that disclaimer on every post regarding this issue? Everybody already knows that.

It's already achieving the ideological aim of closing private schools at quite a fast rate - lets face it it was never actually expected to save any money. Classic race to the bottom Labour.

You’ve completely missed the point I was making. Never mind.

The policy has removed the tax exemption for children’s education, thereby making children’s education taxable. So children's education is now taxable

The policy has removed the tax exemption for children’s education, thereby making some children’s education taxable. So some children's education is now taxable.