Would Labour voters be upset if joining the EU meant they could no longer tax children’s education?

[Blarneyspoco]

Taxing children’s education is banned as part of EU membership. If the U.K. rejoined the EU, would Labour supporters be upset that they can no longer levy the tax or would it be seen as a necessary compromise.

I'm sorry to say you've now made things worse by summoning a mental picture of Jacob Rees-Mogg

Maybe you should have a chat about this with a friend, OP.

Or even a godparent 😁

You have told us exactly why 'they're so obsessed with taxing education in the first place'. You believe it's because Keir Starmer, Bridget Phillipson, Rachel Reeves and probably others are (to paraphrase you) spiteful socialists who are jealous of privilege and want to punish those who have it.

I'm interested that you deem the single measure of imposing VAT on an educational service used by just 7% of families, and which some would say is merely correcting an anomaly that could have been corrected decades ago (ie treating private education as a luxury retail service) amounts to an obsession. Could you provide a rationale for that please?

Yes. She said..on her very first day in office. I can't wait

I interpreted the policy as the Govt saying:

Buying an expensive house near an outstanding state school = morally superior to using private education. Please continue to push house prices up.

Have you tried working harder or giving up avocado toast to pay for the 20%?

Agree. For a single-child family, even with the VAT added, school fees for 7 years are cheaper than the price difference between houses in the naice part of town where the schools are excellent and have low numbers of challenging pupils vs house prices in actually affordable areas where the schools have significant problems and a very challenging demographic intake.

Look if Labour are going to try and negotiate exemptions with the EU on things like VAT on private education then we may as well not try and rejoin at all. The whole point is it isn’t going to work if people want their cake and eat it and ask the EU to adjust for petty British mindset on niche issues. Freedom of movement etc it is going to be what it always was. The only way to get this deal done is on all terms that existed prior to 2016 and having a referendum without clarity of what the exact deal is going to be is a complete no go as well.

Also almost two thirds of Labour voters voted to Remain and I suspect that 1/3 who did not, are exactly the types baying for petty point scoring like private school VAT.
Almost 60% of Tory voters wanted to leave.

It’s such a big task especially since the most keen won’t be in power anymore. France is a major factor.

Merz’s party is struggling a lot. The three who wanted VAT are gone here. It will be very low down the agenda. If we get towards it happening at all.

What she says now and if/when she gets into office may differ. I'd be more worried about her talking about getting rid of Environmental Standards Agency

I haven't told you exactly why someone would want to tax children’s education as I don’t know, I assume it’s motivated by malice towards the group of children most affected or their parents/ crabs in a bucket left wing dogma or wanting to control more of children’s education. The rhetoric certainly indicates that.
You’d really have to ask someone who supports it rather than someone who doesn’t, but the answer you normally get is something along the line of well it’s only 500 thousand British children, poor Arrabella will have to cut down on viola lessons or the weirdest one is that there is no tax on education. So good luck getting an answer that makes even the slightest bit of sense.

She’s not going to get in office though. The Tories are pretty much unelectable.

Wanting to give those earning above £100k help with childcare and tax breaks to those paying for a luxury service that causes a huge amount of damage in the UK whilst ignoring the social care crisis, crumbling schools and an under invested NHS the Tories ran into the ground isn’t exactly a vote winnner. Neither is a string of meaningless soundbites which the entire UK are sick off after Boris’s lies re Brexit and the endless stop the boat promises they never did anything about and Labour improved in their first year of office.

There is no tax on education, there is a tax on private education.

This has been explained to you numerous times.

What exactly do you think the word private means? It’s so odd you keep writing this. Nobody thinks that children are paying a tax on education they don’t pay for and is funded by the government.

I know!Stupid mis calculation there. It’s as if they don’t want to get elected. Many of their voters care deeply about the environment, another area they screwed up along with rivers, seas and water.

Laughable soundbites such as “the best form of welfare is well paid job” (no shit Sherlock)😂with zero plan and insane threats of deletion of services we very much need (such as the Environment Agency )isn’t going to get her anywhere. She just sounds a bit stupid.

This has been explained to you.. says the chap ;

I know, I think the word private = satanic or something in their head.

I think it really comes down to simple envy.

Our children are a mirror on who we are as parents - whilst some of us are/were more than wiling to make sacrifices, others are unable or unwilling.

’Mansion tax’ is another one. Pure envy and spite. All very ugly.

Nope, it's just differentiating between education and private education.

Something you seem unable to do.

There's many a slip between the cup and the lip. Lots can change from now till 2029. Yup the childcare things I agree with. Everyone else gets it. People on £99k get it. But as soon as you hit £100k it goes to zero. Education is a public good and I don't know how it's damaged anyone.

The NHS funding per capita was higher in 2024 Vs 2010 in real terms.

Happily, private tuition in the context of a state school, is exempt.

From one brother to another.

Nobody is able to differentiate between education and private education, because private education is education and there is no differentiation.