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Is my dads partner abusing him

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poofighterss · 03/10/2026 08:05

I’m sorry this is really long, I’m autistic and have used AI to help me write this. Sorry.

My relationship with my dad has been complicated for much of my life. He was married to my mum for around 20 years. During their marriage, he repeatedly cheated on her, drank heavily and was physically abusive towards her. My parents separated when I was 17. Because of everything that had happened, it took me a long time to forgive my dad and rebuild a relationship with him. Eventually, I did manage to forgive him and we became close again.
Around ten years ago, my dad met his current partner. Initially, I thought she was nice and had no particular problem with her. The first incident that made me question her attitude towards me happened around Father’s Day. I was supposed to cook a Father’s Day meal for my dad and his partner, but I became unwell and had to cancel. That evening, my dad phoned me and told me that his partner had spent the day bad-mouthing me and saying that I was a bad daughter. I was very hurt by this, particularly because I had cancelled because I was genuinely unwell.
Over the following years, there was a great deal of conflict between my dad and his partner. They both drank heavily and would frequently argue. She would sometimes kick my dad out of her house, and I would then become involved in dealing with the aftermath. This happened repeatedly and began to affect my own life. Eventually, I reached a point where I told my dad that I could not keep dealing with the situation and that he should come and live with us. He ultimately went back to his partner that same night, and after that they both stopped drinking.
For a period, I did not really want to have much to do with his partner because I was hurt by what my dad had told me she had been saying about me. However, my dad repeatedly asked me to be civil towards her, and eventually I made the effort to do so because I wanted to maintain my relationship with him.
There were also incidents involving wider family members. When my nan, my dad’s mum, died, his partner caused conflict at the funeral because she felt she was not receiving enough attention from my dad. She was also very angry that my mum attended the funeral. This was particularly upsetting given that it was a funeral for my dad’s mother.
A few years later, my uncle died tragically. He had struggled with alcoholism and died after falling out of bed and hitting his head. My dad’s other brother asked my dad to contribute towards the funeral costs. I believe my dad’s partner influenced him not to contribute. I remember her saying that my uncle should have had a “pauper’s funeral” because he should have saved money for his own funeral.
Following this disagreement, my dad stopped speaking to his brother. His brother had told my dad’s partner to “fuck off” and stay out of the situation. I recognised that this was an inappropriate thing to say, but I also felt that everyone was grieving and emotions were extremely high. I tried to persuade my dad not to permanently cut his brother off because I felt things had been said in the heat of the moment and that he should think carefully before making such a significant decision. My dad was adamant, however, that he would not allow anyone to speak to his partner that way.
Not long after this, my dad and his partner came to my house. I tried to speak to my dad about what was happening and told him that he should not allow anyone else to influence him, that the decisions he was making about his family were ultimately his own, and that he should think carefully about how he was proceeding.
His partner became extremely angry and said I was attacking her. She then brought up what had happened years earlier and said that she still meant what she had said about me — that I was a “shit daughter.” At that point, I asked her to leave my house. My dad left with her.
After that incident, my relationship with my dad changed noticeably. He became distant and stopped contacting me in the way he previously had. I increasingly had to approach him rather than him contacting me. It felt fundamentally different from the relationship we had previously rebuilt.
A few months later, I asked my dad if I could take just him out for a birthday meal. He refused. He told me that he would not have his partner deliberately left out and that he did not want to see me for a while because he felt she had been treated badly and that I had put him in a bad situation.
He subsequently blocked both me and my husband.
More than 12 months have now passed without contact from my dad. During this time, all of my children have had birthdays, and my dad has made no contact with them either. There has been no attempt to contact me, my husband or his grandchildren.
My concerns about my dad’s relationship
Looking back over everything that has happened, I have increasingly found myself questioning whether my dad’s partner could herself be displaying emotionally abusive, controlling or isolating behaviour towards him.
I am conscious that I cannot know what happens privately between them, and I do not want to make a definite allegation without evidence. My concern comes from the pattern of behaviour I have personally witnessed.
Their relationship has involved frequent arguments and, historically, heavy drinking. She would repeatedly kick my dad out of her home, leaving me to deal with the consequences. There have also been several serious breakdowns in my dad’s relationships with members of his family following disagreements in which his partner was involved. He stopped speaking to his brother after the dispute surrounding my uncle’s funeral, and eventually a similar pattern occurred with me.
I also find it significant that my dad has increasingly appeared to defend his partner in disputes with his family, even where doing so has resulted in him losing contact with people who were previously important to him. In my case, his partner had previously called me a bad daughter, later repeated that she considered me a “shit daughter,” and became angry when I challenged the situation. My dad then became distant from me, refused to spend time with me without her, and ultimately blocked me and my husband.
I therefore question whether my dad may be experiencing emotional control, manipulation or isolation from his family, and whether this could be affecting the decisions he is making about his relationships with us. I also wonder whether his strong determination to defend her makes it difficult for him to recognise behaviour that concerns other people.
At the same time, I recognise that my dad is an adult and ultimately makes his own decisions. I cannot say that his partner has “made” him cut people off, and I cannot know what happens within their relationship behind closed doors. It is possible that he genuinely agrees with the decisions he has made.
What concerns me is the pattern: conflict involving his partner, my dad defending her, family members being pushed further away, and ultimately the complete breakdown of his relationship with me and his grandchildren.
This makes the situation especially painful because I had already spent years overcoming the damage caused by my dad’s behaviour during my childhood and rebuilding a relationship with him. I believed we had reached a point where we had a genuine relationship again. I now not only have to deal with losing my dad, but also with the possibility that there may be things happening within his relationship that I cannot see or help him with.
For me, this is therefore about much more than one argument. It is the loss of a relationship that took years to rebuild, the loss of my children’s relationship with their grandfather, and the unanswered question of why my dad has ultimately chosen to remain completely estranged from his family rather than attempting to resolve what happened

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poofighterss · 03/10/2026 08:08

I’m sorry it’s so long, I’m just really upset by it all and feel like my dad has chosen his partner. I would’ve never expected him to choose between us, I just wanted to have a relationship with my dad but keep one with her at a distance

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ExtraOnions · 03/10/2026 08:14

Why did you Dad tell you what his partner was saying, in the first place?

They are drinkers, who love drama, and who love dragging other people into it. It’s typical addict behaviour.

When they are not drinking, they will still enjoy the drama.

He’s as much an architect of this as she is.

He’s a toxic individual, who’s behaviour will never change.

This is not about the partner, he’s making his choice. He is not a victim.

Distance yourself from both of them.

Morecoffeeneedef · 03/10/2026 08:15

OP it's hard to follow the long AI post but it gives the impression that your dad has a serious alcohol problem and is behaving chaotically because of that. Perhaps his partner is unpleasant but it sounds more like alcoholism clouding his judgement than her being abusive. Also he has a history of being abusive. A relationship you and him may not be possible unless things change a lot. Sorry.

whatsgoingonhey · 03/10/2026 08:16

Both abusive alcoholics. Leave them to it. That’s a very long post though. Might be better to ask AI to shorten it next time if you insist on using it.

MrsPapillon · 03/10/2026 08:17

I’m sure it’s six of one, half a dozen of the other. They’re both alcoholics. It’s always going to be bedlam. Keep your distance for your own sanity.

poofighterss · 03/10/2026 08:20

Sorry I should’ve stated I know my dad has his own mind and he isn’t an Angel, but I do believe my dad is naive, my autism comes from somewhere and I’ve always thought he is autistic too. I know it’s really long sorry it’s just so much shit has happened and I didn’t want to drip feed

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poofighterss · 03/10/2026 08:20

Just to add they stopped drinking a few years ago, so I’m not sure this is all down to alcohol anymore

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JLou08 · 03/10/2026 08:23

I've not known the abuser to become abused. I wouldn't trust a word he says. He abused your mum for years, he's probably just as bad in this relationship but maybe his partner gives some pushback and kicks him out.
Why would he tell you his partner said you're a bad daughter unless he wanted to hurt you himself? He may enjoy these games of making you miss him and worry about him.
I'd suggest you leave him to it, if he wanted to be in your life he would be.

ItsCloudyToday · 03/10/2026 08:24

Kindly, your dad was an abusive, manipulative drunk before this woman came on the scene. I would just leave them to it now, you’ve tried to speak to him several times and he doesn’t want to know. Protect your own family and children OP.

drogon6 · 03/10/2026 08:24

It sounds very toxic between them. She sounds terrible but your dad doesn’t come across like a saint either. With drink involved I suspect it’s a very volatile household and to be honest you’re better off out of it. Your dad created the initial drama by telling you what she’d said. Why would he do that? He has clearly chosen her over his family and there’s not a lot you can do about that. There may come a time when it all blows up between them and he’ll want to get in contact again and then it’ll be up to you. But in all honestly from what you’ve said he doesn’t sound like a great dad and you’re probably better off without the endless drama. Focus on your own family ❤️

poofighterss · 03/10/2026 08:25

ExtraOnions · 03/10/2026 08:14

Why did you Dad tell you what his partner was saying, in the first place?

They are drinkers, who love drama, and who love dragging other people into it. It’s typical addict behaviour.

When they are not drinking, they will still enjoy the drama.

He’s as much an architect of this as she is.

He’s a toxic individual, who’s behaviour will never change.

This is not about the partner, he’s making his choice. He is not a victim.

Distance yourself from both of them.

I’m not sure to be honest , he called me drunk late at night saying “partner has been talking about you all day, I’m not having that” sort of thing, she was on the background at the time trying to get the phone off him and tried to tell me her dad abused her! Honestly it was so fucked up and I was really angry I’d been woken up by it all

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poofighterss · 03/10/2026 08:29

JLou08 · 03/10/2026 08:23

I've not known the abuser to become abused. I wouldn't trust a word he says. He abused your mum for years, he's probably just as bad in this relationship but maybe his partner gives some pushback and kicks him out.
Why would he tell you his partner said you're a bad daughter unless he wanted to hurt you himself? He may enjoy these games of making you miss him and worry about him.
I'd suggest you leave him to it, if he wanted to be in your life he would be.

I do agree he’s not innocent and has had some serious issues over the years with relationships.
But she is also not a victim in anything, she told my dad right back at the beginning of their relationship she had her ex husband under full control. I think they’re both guilty

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AMarkAMissionABrandAScar · 03/10/2026 08:29

drogon6 · 03/10/2026 08:24

It sounds very toxic between them. She sounds terrible but your dad doesn’t come across like a saint either. With drink involved I suspect it’s a very volatile household and to be honest you’re better off out of it. Your dad created the initial drama by telling you what she’d said. Why would he do that? He has clearly chosen her over his family and there’s not a lot you can do about that. There may come a time when it all blows up between them and he’ll want to get in contact again and then it’ll be up to you. But in all honestly from what you’ve said he doesn’t sound like a great dad and you’re probably better off without the endless drama. Focus on your own family ❤️

Perfectly put. You can't "save" him from his own poor choices and frankly they seem suited to each other. But then I could never get past my dad hitting my mum and he would have been in the rear view mirror decades ago.

Wish44 · 03/10/2026 08:31

You can’t fix this op. Keep your precious energy for your own family s precious peace.

it took me years to realise that I needed to go low contact with my shit dad. Sadly I replaced him with shit men. But I have finally learned ( hopefully)- you can just walk away from other peoples drama.

poofighterss · 03/10/2026 08:34

One thing I forgot to mention is my dad seems to have no personality anymore, even my mom commented she didn’t recognise him when she saw him. He’s gone very quiet, when he was always the opposite and very jokey

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sparrowhawkhere · 03/10/2026 08:34

I would say. You sound so caring. But he treated your mother appallingly, you forgave him, now he’s treating you badly. I don’t think you can blame all this on his partner (who sounds vile)

Firefly100 · 03/10/2026 08:43

Im sorry you have such a shit parent, but that is what he is, a shit parent. The presence of his partner does not change that. Like others I suspect rather than being abused, they are probably well matched in what is clearly a very dysfunctional relationship. I would maintain contact if you want but mirror his effort. If he doesn’t bother to reach out, neither would I.
If he tries to tell you what awful things his partner has said, just say you don’t want to know and cut him off. End the call / visit if he will not drop it.
Personally I would want to see him without his partner. I wouldn’t make a big deal of it but would openly say I want some one on one quality time. If he refused, personally I would put off meeting him and say well let me know when you do have time to meet me then.
He is a shit parent and doesn’t bring anything positive to your life so let him get on with it and try to let go. You will never have the father you deserve.

ProfessorRedshoeblueshoe · 03/10/2026 08:43

Just walk away. He treated you and your mum badly. Now he is ignoring you and your DC. He only told you what she said to be spiteful. Go NC and don't look back.

Properjob · 03/10/2026 08:44

I'm so sorry OP you have done everything a good daughter should do you sound lovely. But men who leave usually put their new women first, its not our fault as daughters, its nothing you've done. They both soumd awful and its clearly not just her influence but his own poor character. You are clearly not like him. All you can do is offer to meet him separately; if he won't then thats it. Concentrate upon your Mum. 🤗

ExtraOnions · 03/10/2026 08:45

Stop making excuses for his toxicity.

It’s not your job to rescues hm, or fix him.

2026onwardsandup · 03/10/2026 09:02

@poofighterss, I am sorry this seems a tough situation for you .
There could be an element of control here , who knows . But the thing that strikes me as others have said is the behaviour (including abusive ) of your dad over 20 years when he was with your mum .

Your dad seems to have a number of issues of his own , ( past ) addiction , he may be neuro - diverse too which may be a factor in his relationships .

In some ways it doesn’t matter why your father is like he is . You need to look at his behaviour and that of his DP .

  1. their relationship seems very toxic / co - dependent at least on your DF’s part
  2. your dad has always prioritised his own needs / shown selfish behaviour .
  3. his partner has shown truly awful behaviour eg during family bereavements when most people with any decency would put their own wishes to the side .
  4. Your dad is prioritising his relationship with his DP . It doesn’t matter why and you will always be treated poorly because of it. I would guess that even if this relationship broke down , your dad would seek another probably toxic relationship .
  5. As you say you don’t know what goes on behind closed doors and your dad could also be being abusive to his DP . Their relationship seems very unhealthy .
  6. change in personality , that could be done to grief / other addictions , who knows .
  7. I think you put your dad on a pedestal and if you look back you say you tried really hard to re- build the relationship with him . I think you put your all into this and made the most effort .
My advice to you , go no contact / very low contact with your Dad . I don’t think he will change and if you maintain this relationship it will be at great personal cost to you . He will never be a good father / grandfather - he will always prioritise his own needs .

You need to focus on yourself , your DH , children and other family members . It may be good for you to get some counselling if you can access it .
take care x

MyDuvetDay · 03/10/2026 09:12

OP I don’t know how you have put up with these antics for so many years. Time to prioritise the happiness and health of your own DH and DC and to stop trying to save/fix/defend your dad. He is a grown man who has made his own choices. It’s sad when family relationships fall apart like this but you need to distance yourself from it.

Dottiethelurcher · 03/10/2026 09:26

Op I’m really sorry you have had all this difficult stuff in your life and this must be very hurtful. It is possible he is in a coercively controlling relationship as this can happen to men too and to people who are not angels themselves. Assuming he has capacity to make his own decisions there is not a lot you can do about it however. Best to focus on yourself for the moment. Some sort of counselling may help if you have not tried this already and can access it.

poofighterss · 03/10/2026 09:37

Thanks all, the main take away is to leave him to it. Which I have no choice about as he blocked me over a year ago. It’s just hurtful, makes me wonder why he doesn’t love me and my kids enough to want us in his life.

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Shoobadadoo · 03/10/2026 09:41

He’s just as bad as she is if not worse.

i think your brain is trying to blame his partner rather than the pain of seeing him for who he truly is