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AIBU to be surprised someone on £34,000 receives Universal Credit?

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Balicious · Yesterday 14:37

I was listening to BBC Radio 5 Live at work yesterday morning. They were discussing the Conservatives’ proposal to stop people spending benefits on alcohol, cigarettes, etc.—but that isn’t what my question is about.
One caller said she earns £34,000 a year as a trainee social worker and receives an additional £500 a month in Universal Credit. She didn’t mention having children, paying rent or having a disability—she simply said she struggles to live on £34,000 and needs Universal Credit to top up her wages.
What is going on? That’s more than I earn! Could I apply for a top-up too? Has anyone else heard of someone working full-time and earning well above minimum wage having their salary topped up by Universal Credit? I just couldn't get over what I was hearing!

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Badbadbunny · Yesterday 16:39

Boomer55 · Yesterday 16:35

Wages were different then though. 🤷‍♀️

But wages haven't risen at anywhere near the same rate as housing costs. The proportions/percentages are way out of proportion compared with the 70s and 80s.

Dweetfidilove · Yesterday 16:42

Blinkett · Yesterday 15:54

it wasn’t nonsense though was it. She DOES earn £34k and she DOES get UC. Why? What does the children’s dad contribute?

She didn’t mention having children, paying rent or having a disability—she simply said she struggles to live on £34,000 and needs Universal Credit to top up her wages.

Nonsense, as someone else listening pointed out the OP was missing this vital information.

catspam79 · Yesterday 16:42

I earn that’ amount with 1 child and was told I don’t qualify??

Plsfindattached · Yesterday 16:43

catspam79 · Yesterday 16:42

I earn that’ amount with 1 child and was told I don’t qualify??

By whom?

Take ownership of your situation and input in to a benefits calculator

catspam79 · Yesterday 16:44

By UC

pokewomans · Yesterday 16:45

Boomer55 · Yesterday 16:35

Wages were different then though. 🤷‍♀️

Yeah they grew then and now they stagnate

Average London FT wage

80s - 7-8k
Now - 40k

@Boomer55 the name is apt I guess…

pokewomans · Yesterday 16:47

IdaGlossop · Yesterday 16:34

It is. But it's a factor nonetheless.

And yet it’s the only you mentioned!

Mycatiscraycray · Yesterday 16:47

Two in two days.

Plsfindattached · Yesterday 16:48

catspam79 · Yesterday 16:44

By UC

You applied for UC
and DWP responded that you were entitled to zero as a single mother on £34k with a dependent?

catspam79 · Yesterday 16:49

Plsfindattached · Yesterday 16:48

You applied for UC
and DWP responded that you were entitled to zero as a single mother on £34k with a dependent?

Edited

Yeah I’m not an idiot . If I had qualified I would be getting it

dustabsorber · Yesterday 16:52

Boomer55 · Yesterday 16:35

Wages were different then though. 🤷‍♀️

Mass immigration has driven property prices up and wages down.

JoGenie · Yesterday 16:52

catspam79 · Yesterday 16:42

I earn that’ amount with 1 child and was told I don’t qualify??

They take all your circumstances into account, like savings, rent and service charges. Every case will be slightly different.

Plsfindattached · Yesterday 16:52

catspam79 · Yesterday 16:49

Yeah I’m not an idiot . If I had qualified I would be getting it

Well then the devil is in the detail.

You have savings. Because you would be entitled to UC.

catspam79 · Yesterday 16:54

Plsfindattached · Yesterday 16:52

Well then the devil is in the detail.

You have savings. Because you would be entitled to UC.

No savings under the threshold. Why don’t you call them on my behalf as you seem adamant I’m wrong

FriendlyMedusa · Yesterday 16:55

Boomer55 · Yesterday 16:35

Wages were different then though. 🤷‍♀️

In 1975, the average house price was 4 times the median salary. Today it is 6.9 times.

Also in 1975, the average deposit was 13% of two people's annual salary, where today it's 78%.

Myvasesarenew · Yesterday 16:56

It's not a lot though is it. I work part time and earn £30,000, take home is £1900 a month. Renting a 3 bed house here is £1300 a month, council tax £250, gas and electric £300. That's would be all my pay gone. That's without internet, phone, TV, food, fuel, any days out! I have two degrees and work, if I was a single parent I couldn't afford to house my 2 children in a standard 3 bed house.

pokewomans · Yesterday 16:56

@FriendlyMedusa facts fall on deaf ears

Plsfindattached · Yesterday 16:56

catspam79 · Yesterday 16:54

No savings under the threshold. Why don’t you call them on my behalf as you seem adamant I’m wrong

🤷‍♀️ they’ll be a reason. They won’t be saying no just to spite you

LilyBunch25 · Yesterday 16:57

Fiftyandme · Yesterday 14:54

Except you were being unpleasant and yoh know it - trying to whip up fury against benefits claimants.

I work in this sector - I calculate benefits and advise on them for a living. Trust me when I say it’s no picnic.

The vile mouth foaming isn’t needed.

I've just left the WB advice sector, this being one of the reasons. So many just don't understand the system and they certainly don't see the cases of desperation especially for LT sick and disabled. I've moved into a different area of charitable work, even though I loved my prevuous job in many ways.

Kirbert2 · Yesterday 16:58

catspam79 · Yesterday 16:42

I earn that’ amount with 1 child and was told I don’t qualify??

Do you have a mortgage or do you rent?

LilyBunch25 · Yesterday 16:59

Plsfindattached · Yesterday 16:56

🤷‍♀️ they’ll be a reason. They won’t be saying no just to spite you

Yep.

LakieLady · Yesterday 17:01

Plsfindattached · Yesterday 16:43

By whom?

Take ownership of your situation and input in to a benefits calculator

The biggest lesson I learned in 25 years of doing welfare rights work is that people chat a load of shit about benefits, and other people often believe them.

Plsfindattached · Yesterday 17:01

LakieLady · Yesterday 17:01

The biggest lesson I learned in 25 years of doing welfare rights work is that people chat a load of shit about benefits, and other people often believe them.

Not me! I don’t believe them. I always think… well there is clearly more to this!

IdaGlossop · Yesterday 17:04

pokewomans · Yesterday 16:47

And yet it’s the only you mentioned!

I did, as an addition to a list already provided by a PP. I didn't set out to provide a full analysis, this being a chat forum and not an economics seminar, but here are some others, in no particular order and with some muddling of genus and species: 1. inflation 2. demand for housing outstripping supply 3. public housing sold off to private individuals 4. low levels of home-building 5. home-building targets not met by successive governments 6. home-building targets set too low to meet demand 7. population increase 8. increase in single-person households 9. sustained periods of low interest rates so borrowing cheap 10. increasingly restrictive planning regulations 11. changes in building regulations discouraging home-building 12. financial deregulation 13. incursion into the property market of foreign HNW individuals driving up prices at the top end of the market.

Typo

ThisUmberSwan · Yesterday 17:04

Binnyforthewin · Yesterday 16:29

And people have the cheek to say UC isn't a gravy train.

i mean it worked out better for me to temporarily cut my hours for a little while so I could take care of picking my child up and dropping her off and then now she’s in reception. Dropping my hours meant I wasn’t claiming the 85% back anymore. Child
is now in school and can attend breakfast club and after school and have requested to increase my hours at the current place so it all works out. I might add. Once all bills rent council tax I’m left with about £300 UC which covers car insurance and petrol so it doesn’t go very far lol