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DD’s dad has taken her overseas and won’t bring her back

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CherryMummy1 · 10/09/2026 21:01

Me and my DD’s (6 years old) dad have been separated for 4 years. He had DD last weekend and has taken her overseas (he had her passport) and has moved overseas (America) with her and won’t bring her back! I had no idea that he was planning to do this! He has obviously been planning it for a while as he would have had to get Visa’s and plan his move to America and so on. He texted me on Saturday morning while he had DD saying that he was at the airport and that he was moving to America for work and that he was taking DD with him and wouldn’t bring her back! He hasn’t answered any of my calls or messages since. I’m going insane worrying about my DD. I’ve been absolutely in bits since, I’m an absolute wreck and can’t stop crying and worrying about my DD and just want her home with me! I’m DD’s primary parent so can’t imagine how scared and upset she must be feeling without me! The police here in the UK won’t do anything as they are saying her dad also has parental responsibility like me so there’s nothing they can do. Social services are refusing to get involved as well. AIBU to think that the police and authorities should be doing more to get my DD home? I’m absolutely in bits and can’t stop crying over it all! I’m furious and livid with her dad too, I’m absolutely raging at him with anger for doing this

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notwhingingjuststatingfacts · 11/09/2026 00:53

SethAndReubenTooSendGaloshes · 10/09/2026 22:12

Don't be ridiculous, threatening legal action against his employer for not illegally getting involved with an employee's private family life? Are you ok??

Yes I’m perfectly ok. Big American firms are not likely to take kindly to an employee kidnapping their child and forcibly moving them halfway around the world. Even the hint that they might hold any liability and they are likely to take it very seriously.
They likely don’t hold any liability at present but if they fail to act and pass relevant information on to the courts then there may well be some comeback on them. But primarily it is just not a good look for them to be defending an employee who has acted illegally and may well end up facing criminal charges.

grinandslothit · 11/09/2026 00:58

InterIgnis · 11/09/2026 00:50

She would need a CRBA alongside her birth certificate. She could enter the U.S from Canada with those.

Edited

That’s still wrong: he couldn't have gotten a CRBA in the first place because the U.S. government strictly requires both parents to sign off on it. Unless he committed forgery or has a secret court order, there is no CRBa. he used a tourist visa/ESTA and lied at the border

InterIgnis · 11/09/2026 01:00

InterIgnis · 11/09/2026 00:50

She would need a CRBA alongside her birth certificate. She could enter the U.S from Canada with those.

Edited

to add:

“United States and Canadian citizen children under age 16 arriving by land or sea from contiguous territory may also present an original or copy of his or her birth certificate (issued by the Vital Records Department in the state where he or she was born), a Consular Report of Birth Abroad, a Naturalization Certificate, or a Canadian Citizenship Card.”

www.help.cbp.gov/s/article/Article-1300?language=en_US

Bloodysquirellls · 11/09/2026 01:10

so sorry OP. This really awful.

No advice but will be thinking of you. Try to take care of yourself and stay calm - I appreciate probably an absolutely impossible task.

InterIgnis · 11/09/2026 01:13

grinandslothit · 11/09/2026 00:58

That’s still wrong: he couldn't have gotten a CRBA in the first place because the U.S. government strictly requires both parents to sign off on it. Unless he committed forgery or has a secret court order, there is no CRBa. he used a tourist visa/ESTA and lied at the border

No, it still isn’t wrong. Only one parent needs to apply for the CRBA:

There is no two-parent signature requirement for a Form FS-240 with respect to permission to issue. 7 FAM 1130 provides guidance regarding adjudication of a citizenship claim. In the case of a child involved in a custody dispute, either parent may apply for the Form FS-240 regardless of which parent has been awarded custody. In the rare event that separate applications are received from both parents, as in the case of a divorce, approve the application received first. Once the Form FS-240 has been issued, the other parent may obtain an FS-240. Direct questions about a Form FS-240 and a child custody dispute to CA/OCS/L ([email protected]).

Direct from the Department of State:
https://fam.state.gov/FAM/08FAM/08FAM050601.html

HappyPalaces · 11/09/2026 01:13

Posters are getting hung up on the Canada option. Is it possible that he had his job fly them both to Canada so he could illegally get her into the country? I guess. Is it likely? I think not. I really don’t think he’s taken OP’s DD to New York.

Oxo01 · 11/09/2026 01:21

WaneyEdge · 10/09/2026 23:09

Presumably you/the company wouldn’t just take someone’s word for it that their employee was involved in something illegal?

But surley she could show the proof of messages and that he said hes taking her and not bringing her back and other proof of her bring the main carer etc

InterIgnis · 11/09/2026 01:24

HappyPalaces · 11/09/2026 01:13

Posters are getting hung up on the Canada option. Is it possible that he had his job fly them both to Canada so he could illegally get her into the country? I guess. Is it likely? I think not. I really don’t think he’s taken OP’s DD to New York.

It’s the most obvious route to get her into the U.S under the circumstances. Is it likely? We don’t know him, but given that he’s a U.S citizen employed in the U.S, it’s not unlikely.

All OP can do is get legal advice ASAP.

Namechange800 · 11/09/2026 02:28

Op family lawyer here. Strongly advise to get your advice from a law firm on the child abduction panel. For example Dawson Cornwall (not my firm ) specialise in child abduction work and have a child abduction team. Do not just get advice from a normal family solicitor. You may also need American lawyers but they will be able to help put you in touch with specialists there. Contacting the Child Abduction Unit is also very helpful advice. They will have someone with specialist American experience. Good luck op xx

DeftGoldHedgehog · 11/09/2026 03:03

What an absolute fucking twat. I hope he gets the book thrown at him and loses his job. But most of all I hope you and DD are reunited soon.

user1492757084 · 11/09/2026 03:06

bigboykitty · 10/09/2026 21:43

I really wouldn't try his employer again. You need the big guns on this. Embassy/MP/Minister - that level.

Yes, Cherrymummy is right.
And what if he leaves that employ and moves to unknown place?
You need his place of residence constant.

SethAndReubenTooSendGaloshes · 11/09/2026 03:09

Soontobe60 · 10/09/2026 22:28

I would contact them again to inform them that one of their employees has removed your DD from your care without permission.

Why do you think she didn't tell them that when she called??
The employer cannot help here. I have no idea why anyone thinks that they can.

MadinMarch · 11/09/2026 03:19

CherryMummy1 · 10/09/2026 21:49

Ok thank you so much, that’s all so helpful. I’ll do all of that tomorrow, thank you so much

This all sounds like excellent advice, and a very good strategy to follow.
Concentrate on doing this rather than going public and using social media etc.
You must be beside yourself with worry OP and my heart goes out to you. I hope your dd is returned very soon.
Just one thing, I wonder whether he's told you the truth about which country/city/ state he's gone to? It could serve him well to confuse you and the authorities to give him more time to establish himself and dd as residents of wherever he's gone. Hopefully one or other of the organisations that deals with parental child abduction will be able to seek some sort of legal order forcing his work company to disclose where he is.
Do you know any of his friends and/or colleagues in the uk who may be able to give you any information? I appreciate though that he may not have disclosed his intentions to anyone.
He's acted very cruelly towards his daughter and you too.

Trallers · 11/09/2026 04:28

What an awful situation. I know someone this happened to. It was a similar situation (US + American citzenship, although not NY). It took far too long but did end up in front of a judge who ordered the child back home, so don't give up hope.

Miyagi99 · 11/09/2026 04:37

Cadeaukatze · 10/09/2026 21:20

How did he even get her out of the UK - or into the US? I thought you needed a permission letter from the other parent? Has he forged it?

They rarely ask for proof.

Einszwei · 11/09/2026 04:38

Do you have your DDs passport details? You can check her i94 record to see if she has entered the US under a non immigrant visa.

You can check this here:
https://i94.cbp.dhs.gov/search/history-search

I94 - Official Website

https://i94.cbp.dhs.gov/search/history-search

Sussexserpents · 11/09/2026 04:46

Miyagi99 · 11/09/2026 04:37

They rarely ask for proof.

I’m a us citizen and my children are British. If you have the same surname they rarely give it a second thought. The most that has happened is my son having me pointed at and they said ‘who is that’ and he said ‘my mum’ and that was that. I am totally unsure how he acquired a visa though… as my kids don’t have us passports they have had to travel on my husbands esta

JemappelleClaude · 11/09/2026 05:01

WaneyEdge · 10/09/2026 23:09

Presumably you/the company wouldn’t just take someone’s word for it that their employee was involved in something illegal?

We wouldn’t, but we would sure as hell investigate claims being made and at the very least interview the person and check if it has any basis/they are working with the authorities.

Zanatdy · 11/09/2026 05:04

That’s horrendous OP. Really hope you get your DD back asap. Maybe he just took her in on an ETA. When we went to the US, I applied for them for the kids, not their dad. We didn’t both need to consent. Presumably he doesn’t care that it is only for a set period. Hope the solicitor can get the ball rolling. I really feel for you OP. Please stay strong.

Zanatdy · 11/09/2026 05:05

Sussexserpents · 11/09/2026 04:46

I’m a us citizen and my children are British. If you have the same surname they rarely give it a second thought. The most that has happened is my son having me pointed at and they said ‘who is that’ and he said ‘my mum’ and that was that. I am totally unsure how he acquired a visa though… as my kids don’t have us passports they have had to travel on my husbands esta

Yeah my DC have a different surname and DD has a completely Asian name, very different to mine. Been all over with them including US 5 times and no-one ever asked me for a letter.

IsLarryFromSomething · 11/09/2026 05:46

CherryMummy1 · 10/09/2026 21:32

Her dad had lived in the UK for 8 years prior to her birth?

I'm American and also lived here for 8 years before my child with my British husband was born. My child is still entitled to, and has, both US and UK passports.

However regardless of her citizenship situation this is against the hague convention, a lot of Americans I see in immigrant groups feel stuck in the UK because they have a child here they can't take from the UK because of it. Hopefully your lawyer can sort this out asap. It must be really scary for her and you xx

Vodkamartini3olives · 11/09/2026 05:58

VanCleefArpels · 10/09/2026 21:22

Could he have secretly applied for a US passport for her?

From my personal experience no. My DH is American. My eldest was born in UK. We both had to be present when applying for a US passport for him. Having duel citizenship isn't automatic. You still have to apply for a passport to enter the US.

Another2Cats · 11/09/2026 06:09

CherryMummy1 · 10/09/2026 21:32

Her dad had lived in the UK for 8 years prior to her birth?

It doesn't have to be the five years immediately prior to the birth but just any five years, with at least two of those years being while he was over the age of 14.

So, for example, if he lived in the USA from birth until 16 and then moved abroad then that would count.

However, if he left the USA before he was 16 and never returned then he could not pass on US citizenship to his child (although if he did later return for two years he would then afterwards be able to pass on US citizenship).

Blueblell · 11/09/2026 06:29

I would sort out legal representation and then go over there and bring her back. You know who his employer is so it should be possible to track him down.