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AIBU to ask for guidance around DC and A levels with university in mind - I'm clueless

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Tomorrowtodaynever · 10/09/2026 19:39

I didn't go to university traditionally, I ended up doing it as a mature student and his dad didn't go. I am helping Year 11 DC think about A level choices but with university in mind. Can anyone input?

So, in short: DC is bright and could do well across all subjects, but when it comes to choosing A levels they really can't decide. There are definite Nos - and these are a lot of the traditional subjects. I really want him to keep his options open and go to a good uni, if that can happen. Obviously if it doesn't, that's fine too. But I read that the Russell Group universities tend to favour facilitating vs non facilitating - I grabbed this (there are a few missing but you get the giste). Is this right? Should I be guiding him towards at least two of the facilitating subjects? What matters at A level? What you love to do or what (with one eye on the future) keeps things broad?

Any advice would be really welcome.

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clary · 25/09/2026 13:48

No essays in maths A level :) some analysis in science A levels but not essays as such.

Philosophy A level – sample question: Does functionalism give a convincing account of mental states? 25 marks for that one and quite a lot of space on the paper. There are shorter questions too - example Explain the difference between Bentham’s quantitative hedonistic utilitarianism and Mill’s qualitative hedonistic utilitarianism. That's only worth 5 marks. I could answer that one actually! <dredges up uni degree knowledge>

Tomorrowtodaynever · 25/09/2026 14:07

Thanks again, everyone. I agree it's about the sweet spot between what he really enjoys and what he'll do well in.

Discussions continue. He won't do maths. He's not shown any interest whatsoever

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Bushmillsbabe · 25/09/2026 14:30

Tomorrowtodaynever · 25/09/2026 11:42

Hi everyone, hope you're well.

The process continues

What do people think about Psychology, Philosophy and Drama? Thoughts would be appreciated

To me it feels like there is a lot of overlap there. Philosophy and psychology are both quite similar. These and drama will all be very essay based. I would swop one of philosophy and psychology for a more factual subject, like a science.

Tomorrowtodaynever · 25/09/2026 14:37

clary · 25/09/2026 13:48

No essays in maths A level :) some analysis in science A levels but not essays as such.

Philosophy A level – sample question: Does functionalism give a convincing account of mental states? 25 marks for that one and quite a lot of space on the paper. There are shorter questions too - example Explain the difference between Bentham’s quantitative hedonistic utilitarianism and Mill’s qualitative hedonistic utilitarianism. That's only worth 5 marks. I could answer that one actually! <dredges up uni degree knowledge>

This is the Philosophy A outline: What will I study?

The A Level Philosophy course is taught in a thematic way, covering four themes:

  • Epistemology
  • Ethics (or Moral philosophy)
  • Philosophy of Mind (or metaphysics of mind)
  • Philosophy of Religion (or ‘metaphysics of God’)
In first year, we start with Epistemology (the study of knowledge) where you will explore topics such as where knowledge comes from and whether we can trust what our senses tell us about the world. The next theme, Ethics, looks into morality and considers a range of different ethical approaches including theories like utilitarianism and deontological ethics as well as applied ethics issues such as eating animals and killing in computer games. In second year we start Philosophy of Mind which explores the nature of the mind and whether consciousness is something non-physical (like a soul) or instead explainable in purely physical terms. Finally, Philosophy of Religion covers arguments for and against the existence of God as well as questions around the problem of evil and God’s attributes. Within each of the four philosophical themes studied, you will have a chance to engage with the works of key philosophers who have theories and arguments related to those areas, from the Ancient Greek philosophers Aristotle and Plato, to more modern thinkers like Rene Descartes, John Locke, David Hume and Immanuel Kant, all the way to modern thinkers such as Bertrand Russell, AJ Ayer and Daniel Dennett. The Philosophy A Level is a Western Philosophy course but that’s not to say that points about other world philosophies won’t come up in discussions in classes just that the focus in the course material and what you are examined on is very much Western-focused. The Philosophy A Level will help you to understand the evolution of ideas in Western Philosophy and how differing schools of thought and perspectives emerge over time.

Is this course right for me?

Philosophy is a great course for those who want to explore issues in depth and are not afraid to explore ideas and theories that may seem abstract or difficult to grasp at first. While we look at some of the big questions, we also look at many of the ideas that other subjects skip over, like how can you be sure that what you observe in science is real? It is also important that students who study the subject are open to examining theories and ideas that may be different from their own. It’s also crucial that students can think clearly, precisely and with the careful use of logic. This is because we are not looking for people’s opinions or outlandish theories but their arguments built on evidence and argument.

Students often find philosophy very challenging at first and it can be a bit of a shock when they start while being a stimulating subject, it is also a demanding one. But over time students develop the skills to evaluate their own answers and formulate responses. You will learn how to build an argument and to spot logical flaws whilst thinking critically, meaning debate and discussion are key in lessons as a method used to achieve this. There will also be some reading of original texts in philosophy to gain precise understandings of thinker’s ideas.

Where next?

A Level Philosophy students go on to pursue a wide range of careers. The skills developed on the course are useful for the charity sector, environmental work, government careers, policy work, business strategy and management as well as emerging roles in AI (artificial intelligence) and medicine, especially with how these roles may intersect with ethics. Often philosophy is the perfect degree to have for the challenging job that has no specific subject requirement.
Many of our students go on to study philosophy at university and the course sets them up really well for this. For other subject and career routes, Philosophy provides a range of transferrable skills, including: logical and analytical thinking and reasoning, problem solving, written and oral communication, ability to interpret, condense and clarify information, ability to formulate your own opinions and defend them in debate and the ability to interpret and analyse a variety of different information. Useful websites to research careers and wider progression options could include Prospects, All About Careers and The Apprenticeship Guide.

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clary · 25/09/2026 14:46

Is that from the college prospectus @Tomorrowtodaynever or the AQA website?

This caught my eye There will also be some reading of original texts in philosophy to gain precise understandings of thinker’s ideas. [sic] some reading? most of the paper is asking about original texts, either directly as in "talk about XXXX DWM's views on YYY" or indirectly "discuss the theory of ABC" but you will need to know about the people who write about it.

Sorry to be a doomsayer but IMO and E phi is sold on the premise of "you will sit in class debating the rights and wrongs of gaming/social media/smoking/the death penalty" ooh fun, when if you look at the exam papers you need to write essays on what people thought, so you need to read and understand that. If that is of interest then happy days for sure.

Tomorrowtodaynever · 25/09/2026 14:49

clary · 25/09/2026 14:46

Is that from the college prospectus @Tomorrowtodaynever or the AQA website?

This caught my eye There will also be some reading of original texts in philosophy to gain precise understandings of thinker’s ideas. [sic] some reading? most of the paper is asking about original texts, either directly as in "talk about XXXX DWM's views on YYY" or indirectly "discuss the theory of ABC" but you will need to know about the people who write about it.

Sorry to be a doomsayer but IMO and E phi is sold on the premise of "you will sit in class debating the rights and wrongs of gaming/social media/smoking/the death penalty" ooh fun, when if you look at the exam papers you need to write essays on what people thought, so you need to read and understand that. If that is of interest then happy days for sure.

From the college prospectus

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user293948849167 · 25/09/2026 18:01

Tomorrowtodaynever · 25/09/2026 11:42

Hi everyone, hope you're well.

The process continues

What do people think about Psychology, Philosophy and Drama? Thoughts would be appreciated

Yes if these are the three he enjoys most this is absolutely fine as a combination.
There are quite a few different directions he could go in for degree subjects.
He should have a look at some potential degree courses before making a final
decision just to make sure he’s ok with ruling out biology and the possibility of doing a biological science degree

user293948849167 · 25/09/2026 18:03

Bushmillsbabe · 25/09/2026 14:30

To me it feels like there is a lot of overlap there. Philosophy and psychology are both quite similar. These and drama will all be very essay based. I would swop one of philosophy and psychology for a more factual subject, like a science.

Philosophy and psychology really aren’t that similar, I think they complement eachother quite well

Pinkissmart · 26/09/2026 13:41

God, can we all stop with the Russell Group nonsense?

Tomorrowtodaynever · 26/09/2026 16:36

Pinkissmart · 26/09/2026 13:41

God, can we all stop with the Russell Group nonsense?

Sorry?

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CruCru · 27/09/2026 01:05

Pinkissmart · 26/09/2026 13:41

God, can we all stop with the Russell Group nonsense?

It may be that this thread about A levels is not of interest to you - this is fair enough. However I think that, although the OP mentioned Russell Group in the first post, she has not mentioned it again.

Pinkissmart · 27/09/2026 14:10

There are no ‘facilitating’ subjects anymore. That went out quite some time ago.

Many Russell Group unis don’t rank as well as other non- RG unis in terms of teaching and student support.

There are some great universities which are not Russell Group.

I speak to students every day about university, and so many say they want a Russell Group uni, and they don’t even know why.

OffTheMap · 27/09/2026 14:23

'Facilitating subjects' may not be a thing, but different courses will have set criteria.
E,g Chemistry at Bristol requires an A at A Level in Chemistry

And then many Chemistry graduates go straight into finance...so your degree doesn't have to be directly linked to a career.

clary · 27/09/2026 14:37

so many say they want a Russell Group uni, and they don’t even know why.

Yes this is very valid @Pinkissmart and I think some parents are also guilty of this. (Not saying this about anyone on here)

It leads perhaps to very good universities, or unis that have very strong options at least, such as Leicester, Swansea, Loughborough, Lancaster, Bath, Keele, Brunel, being ignored.

Pinkissmart · 27/09/2026 16:17

OffTheMap · 27/09/2026 14:23

'Facilitating subjects' may not be a thing, but different courses will have set criteria.
E,g Chemistry at Bristol requires an A at A Level in Chemistry

And then many Chemistry graduates go straight into finance...so your degree doesn't have to be directly linked to a career.

Yes, they will have entry criteria, which is different to the ‘facilitating subjects’ list the Russell Group circulated a few years ago.

Shatenoeuf · 27/09/2026 16:39

TeenLifeMum · 10/09/2026 19:49

What degree area is he looking at reading? That’s the best starting point. I personally wouldn’t get too hung up on Russell group unless you’re looking at finance or top law. It’s more important to choose the best course imo.

I'd disagree with this actually, unless its a particularly strong vocational course with links to an employer.

Theres a huge difference in the quality on offer at a top institution vs a weaker one. Weaker ones will take poorer students with worse grades & the courses will reflect this.

I studied a really random (non stem) course but at a top uni and got into an excellent grad scheme. Most of my colleagues are the same.

I would do at least 1-2 "facilitating" subjects & aim to get the best grades you can to access a selective uni with a strong reputation.

Tomorrowtodaynever · 27/09/2026 16:40

Thanks everyone for your continued input. I guess I’m guilty of using Russell Group as shorthand for the best universities but there’s no point telling me off - I am here to learn.

Anyway, we may have landed on a possible combo: Psychology, Biology and Drama.

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clary · 27/09/2026 17:04

Tomorrowtodaynever · 27/09/2026 16:40

Thanks everyone for your continued input. I guess I’m guilty of using Russell Group as shorthand for the best universities but there’s no point telling me off - I am here to learn.

Anyway, we may have landed on a possible combo: Psychology, Biology and Drama.

Not intending to tell you off @Tomorrowtodaynever dw. It's all information at the end of the day.

Those choices sound good to me. Two sciences will open doors to lots of science degrees (biology, psychology, bioscience, even medicine at the unis that don't need chem – tho I suspect he would know by now if he wanted to be a doctor) and the drama is a good essay subject to give him an idea of whether that line (sociology/philosophy/criminology/law/class civ/liberal arts) is somewhere he wants to go. All the best to him.

Tomorrowtodaynever · 27/09/2026 17:11

clary · 27/09/2026 17:04

Not intending to tell you off @Tomorrowtodaynever dw. It's all information at the end of the day.

Those choices sound good to me. Two sciences will open doors to lots of science degrees (biology, psychology, bioscience, even medicine at the unis that don't need chem – tho I suspect he would know by now if he wanted to be a doctor) and the drama is a good essay subject to give him an idea of whether that line (sociology/philosophy/criminology/law/class civ/liberal arts) is somewhere he wants to go. All the best to him.

Thank you. I have really appreciated hearing from you.

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TeenLifeMum · 27/09/2026 19:08

Shatenoeuf · 27/09/2026 16:39

I'd disagree with this actually, unless its a particularly strong vocational course with links to an employer.

Theres a huge difference in the quality on offer at a top institution vs a weaker one. Weaker ones will take poorer students with worse grades & the courses will reflect this.

I studied a really random (non stem) course but at a top uni and got into an excellent grad scheme. Most of my colleagues are the same.

I would do at least 1-2 "facilitating" subjects & aim to get the best grades you can to access a selective uni with a strong reputation.

We were very unimpressed by Bristol and Cardiff - both slated the other and bragged about achievements if individual professors but said “but there’s no funding for that now” multiple times. We loved Exeter - and I have my post grad from there so probably bias. Dd is at a “red brick” uni and I’ve been extremely impressed. I’ve also employed people from UWE and Swansea and they’ve been excellent. I think Russell group is over rated snobbish institution, but I know many will disagree.

user293948849167 · 27/09/2026 20:13

Tomorrowtodaynever · 27/09/2026 16:40

Thanks everyone for your continued input. I guess I’m guilty of using Russell Group as shorthand for the best universities but there’s no point telling me off - I am here to learn.

Anyway, we may have landed on a possible combo: Psychology, Biology and Drama.

Great, psychology and biology go well together and drama is an essay based subject and something he enjoys so that means he’s likely to do well in.
He could go for a biological science degree, psychology, humanities or drama related subject with those A levels.

ExpressCheckout · 27/09/2026 20:18

OutOfTheOtherSide · 10/09/2026 21:28

Russell Group is a very old fashioned way of looking at uni. Maybe for PhD level studies, research focused academics, or the oldy worldy subjects (art history or classics) they're a priority but for a kid doing psychology or some of the more modern subjects, they need to look at the best universities for their degree without restrictions. Some of the post 92s are much quicker, slicker and more impressive from a T&L point of view. Russell Group unis occasionally overlook teaching in favour of research although a layperson wouldn't see that.

There are university ranking lists which you can filter by subject, that's the best way to look at it. Look at the rankings, TEF etc. But all of this is down the line. He needs to sort out his A-Levels first. You're looking too far ahead.

^ I was just coming on to say this, too, OP. Read it carefully and don't fixate on RG.

clary · 27/09/2026 21:03

TeenLifeMum · 27/09/2026 19:08

We were very unimpressed by Bristol and Cardiff - both slated the other and bragged about achievements if individual professors but said “but there’s no funding for that now” multiple times. We loved Exeter - and I have my post grad from there so probably bias. Dd is at a “red brick” uni and I’ve been extremely impressed. I’ve also employed people from UWE and Swansea and they’ve been excellent. I think Russell group is over rated snobbish institution, but I know many will disagree.

Exeter is in the RG though; and redbrick unis are too. The original six on that list are often listed as Brum, Bristol, Liverpool, Manchester, Sheffield and Leeds; Reading, Newcastle and Nottingham are added, according to wiki. Reading is the only one of those not in the RG.

Not that I am defending RG as a marker of very much tbh. Lots of the highest-rated unis are in it, but I will hotly defend several that are not against some that are.

TeenLifeMum · 27/09/2026 23:40

clary · 27/09/2026 21:03

Exeter is in the RG though; and redbrick unis are too. The original six on that list are often listed as Brum, Bristol, Liverpool, Manchester, Sheffield and Leeds; Reading, Newcastle and Nottingham are added, according to wiki. Reading is the only one of those not in the RG.

Not that I am defending RG as a marker of very much tbh. Lots of the highest-rated unis are in it, but I will hotly defend several that are not against some that are.

Yes, I’m aware Exeter is - my point is, being Russell Group doesn’t mean better than imo. I honestly disliked the arrogance and lack of any pastoral element demonstrated by Bristol and Cardiff, Exeter was the only one that I was impressed by. When asked why a student should choose Cardiff, the lecturer answered “well we’re RG” and that was it. In terms of red brick… dd is at Reading and chose it over Bristol and Cardiff, then Exeter was her back up.

clary · 28/09/2026 00:44

TeenLifeMum · 27/09/2026 23:40

Yes, I’m aware Exeter is - my point is, being Russell Group doesn’t mean better than imo. I honestly disliked the arrogance and lack of any pastoral element demonstrated by Bristol and Cardiff, Exeter was the only one that I was impressed by. When asked why a student should choose Cardiff, the lecturer answered “well we’re RG” and that was it. In terms of red brick… dd is at Reading and chose it over Bristol and Cardiff, then Exeter was her back up.

Ah I see, apologies I misread.

Reading is actually another really good, long-established (not that that is a marker of excellence as such) university that is often overlooked (like Leicester) simple bc it is not in a research group, Glad your DD is having a good experience.