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Masked men at Dover - KKK vibes

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MumofCandR · Yesterday 11:53

They are utter cowards and hypocritical. The same ilk will state they're against the burkha and protests by environmental groups etc. but are happy to mask their faces in 'protest' the reality is they're just nasty specimens of humanity, full of people with self righteous white supremacy tendencies. AIBU.

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smallglassbottle · Yesterday 16:43

Gloriia · Yesterday 16:36

Totally agree. Not one arrest and of course they hide their faces lest they get sacked for being 'far right'.
Good for them.
I find trans activists running about in wigs and dresses shouting 'decapitate terfs' and 'burn anyone who disagrees with us' far more threatening.

Oh yeah, I'd forgotten about the decapitate and burn them in oil lot. Charming aren't they? Such hypocrisy.

Have we had 'gammon' yet? I think that one's going out of fashion.

Weeellokthen · Yesterday 16:43

Septembersunrays · Yesterday 16:31

Exactly being weak on it protects no one and helps no one and creates fear.

We/they (gvnmt) really should have saw this coming........

Septembersunrays · Yesterday 16:43

ElizaMulvil · Yesterday 16:31

You do not know that they approve of misogynistic cultures.They may well be leaving precisely because they don't. It is likely that they are being sent on ahead to find a safe route for their families, women and children. It is very dangerous and physically impossible for young children, the old, women etc to cross borders of countries with no functioning government or where their families may already have been targeted by the rebels in a civil war.

In failed States where there is no functioning government people often have no birth certificates or passports. Rival criminal gangs are rife.

We have brought this problem on ourselves by people having no route to apply for asylum until they are physically here. They may well be coming from eg Afghanistan, a country where those who supported us are now in danger of being killed. (They may speak English which would make life easier for them than eg France or Germany. They may already have relations here. )

The next safe country to Afghanistan is Pakistan who have returned a million to Afghanistan where they are now in grave danger, no homes, no means of earning a living. Many will starve.

It is very difficult to imagine the horrors these people have endured. We had the same problems in WW2 where the Government wouldn't allow the opponents of Hitler to enter despite knowing that refusal meant certain death in concentration camps.

Many countries allow asylum seekers to work either immediately or very quickly.eg
Australia, Canada, Sweden, Portugal - almost immediately
Germany after 3 months
Belgium after 4 months
USA, Netherlands after 6 months.
It make no sense to keep them in poverty for years on end when they could /should be contributing to our country and both they and us would benefit.
NB We have a very low birth rate ( which will break this country in the future if we don't do something about it. Annual deaths are projected to outnumber births for the first time in modern history a 'baby bust'.( See the Government list of jobs where there is a shortage btw.)

Asylum seekers allowances.
( £49.18 a week for food, clothing, toiletries. Self catered accommodation £49.18 per person per week, Catered accommodation eg hotels (£9.50 per week. Pregnant women + £5.25 per week, Babies under 1 year old extra £9.50 per week, Children 1-3 extra £5.25 per week.)

Cost Repayment Law
Adults who are granted refugee status and find employment are required to repay upto £10,000 to the Home Office. ( Works similar to student loans. and must be paid off before the person can claim settled status.)

If they a fleeing the awful sexist culture it's really not helping their cause to leave the women and children behind and if all men left with all females and children they would all be much safer wouldn't they ?

EasternStandard · Yesterday 16:43

RedTagAlan · Yesterday 16:42

I did read the post. Where are the endless insults ?

On any thread really. I’m sure there’s already been a few re IQ below, scroll back.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 16:43

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 16:43

Oh yeah, I'd forgotten about the decapitate and burn them in oil lot. Charming aren't they? Such hypocrisy.

Have we had 'gammon' yet? I think that one's going out of fashion.

Not seen that racist term for a while.

Wakemeuuuup · Yesterday 16:43

It should be illegal to hide your face when protesting. If you feel your cause is just, own it

StandFirm · Yesterday 16:44

Vivi0 · Yesterday 16:33

Have you been to Europe recently?

The UK isn’t even as bad as many European countries…yet.

Brexit is irrelevant.

Brexit is not irrelevant. It has made effective cooperation between the UK and EU countries (specifically France) much more difficult. Both UK and French 'aspiring leaders' Farage and Bardella (President of the French equivalent of Reform) are liars when they signed their worthless MOU this week. It was a photo op. An alliance of nationalist governments across Europe is an oxymoron. It will only ever be driven by self-interest and drive more discord across the board- and bring more chaos down the line, to Putin's delight of course.

MrsBunny2018 · Yesterday 16:45

Interesting that there have been 0 arrests as per BBC, as opposed to the 169 arrests made at Notting Hill Carnival. Can't be that thuggish can they?

Septembersunrays · Yesterday 16:45

@StandFirm well Putin is delighted that we keep pull factors to keep migrants coming and he delights in the chaos and weakening of our society and of course it's another revenue stream by washing their money

EasternStandard · Yesterday 16:45

StandFirm · Yesterday 16:44

Brexit is not irrelevant. It has made effective cooperation between the UK and EU countries (specifically France) much more difficult. Both UK and French 'aspiring leaders' Farage and Bardella (President of the French equivalent of Reform) are liars when they signed their worthless MOU this week. It was a photo op. An alliance of nationalist governments across Europe is an oxymoron. It will only ever be driven by self-interest and drive more discord across the board- and bring more chaos down the line, to Putin's delight of course.

Of course they can make an agreement. It’s outside Brexit.

There’s already dealing with the French police, it’s just not going to be as effective.

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 16:46

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 16:43

Not seen that racist term for a while.

I think they're going straight to 'Nazi' now. They should save that for last tbh, otherwise they have nowhere else to go. It's a bit sad for them when they run out of insults.

Jardenalia · Yesterday 16:47

CarbootJunction · Yesterday 14:49

The sight of them made my sad heart soar.

At last, England roars.

Oh grow up! FFS, your idea of England roaring is a bunch of white male losers dressing like the SS? These men are not my England.

Pineneedlesincarpet · Yesterday 16:48

ElizaMulvil · Yesterday 16:31

You do not know that they approve of misogynistic cultures.They may well be leaving precisely because they don't. It is likely that they are being sent on ahead to find a safe route for their families, women and children. It is very dangerous and physically impossible for young children, the old, women etc to cross borders of countries with no functioning government or where their families may already have been targeted by the rebels in a civil war.

In failed States where there is no functioning government people often have no birth certificates or passports. Rival criminal gangs are rife.

We have brought this problem on ourselves by people having no route to apply for asylum until they are physically here. They may well be coming from eg Afghanistan, a country where those who supported us are now in danger of being killed. (They may speak English which would make life easier for them than eg France or Germany. They may already have relations here. )

The next safe country to Afghanistan is Pakistan who have returned a million to Afghanistan where they are now in grave danger, no homes, no means of earning a living. Many will starve.

It is very difficult to imagine the horrors these people have endured. We had the same problems in WW2 where the Government wouldn't allow the opponents of Hitler to enter despite knowing that refusal meant certain death in concentration camps.

Many countries allow asylum seekers to work either immediately or very quickly.eg
Australia, Canada, Sweden, Portugal - almost immediately
Germany after 3 months
Belgium after 4 months
USA, Netherlands after 6 months.
It make no sense to keep them in poverty for years on end when they could /should be contributing to our country and both they and us would benefit.
NB We have a very low birth rate ( which will break this country in the future if we don't do something about it. Annual deaths are projected to outnumber births for the first time in modern history a 'baby bust'.( See the Government list of jobs where there is a shortage btw.)

Asylum seekers allowances.
( £49.18 a week for food, clothing, toiletries. Self catered accommodation £49.18 per person per week, Catered accommodation eg hotels (£9.50 per week. Pregnant women + £5.25 per week, Babies under 1 year old extra £9.50 per week, Children 1-3 extra £5.25 per week.)

Cost Repayment Law
Adults who are granted refugee status and find employment are required to repay upto £10,000 to the Home Office. ( Works similar to student loans. and must be paid off before the person can claim settled status.)

I don't think we need any more legal routes for asylum seekers. We can't afford to support even more people who will be a burden to the state throughout their lives. Otherwise the whole system will collapse and there will be nothing for anyone.

I see we are not even in the top 20 worldwide for GDP/capita. We really are the wrong country for these young, male economic migrants to target.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 16:49

Jardenalia · Yesterday 16:47

Oh grow up! FFS, your idea of England roaring is a bunch of white male losers dressing like the SS? These men are not my England.

How do you know they are all white?

RedTagAlan · Yesterday 16:49

EasternStandard · Yesterday 16:43

On any thread really. I’m sure there’s already been a few re IQ below, scroll back.

Ahh yes. It's the usual claims based on a "feeling".

Pineneedlesincarpet · Yesterday 16:49

StandFirm · Yesterday 16:44

Brexit is not irrelevant. It has made effective cooperation between the UK and EU countries (specifically France) much more difficult. Both UK and French 'aspiring leaders' Farage and Bardella (President of the French equivalent of Reform) are liars when they signed their worthless MOU this week. It was a photo op. An alliance of nationalist governments across Europe is an oxymoron. It will only ever be driven by self-interest and drive more discord across the board- and bring more chaos down the line, to Putin's delight of course.

When we were in the EU the illegal migrants travelled in by lorry, from recollection.

Gloriia · Yesterday 16:49

Jardenalia · Yesterday 16:47

Oh grow up! FFS, your idea of England roaring is a bunch of white male losers dressing like the SS? These men are not my England.

Dressed like the SS? Didn't they have anoraks on? I missed the nazi outfits do post a pic.

ShitHoleDweller · Yesterday 16:50

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. The progressives hide their faces at marches and now you have the anti-immigration protesters wearing balaclavas. Get on with banning ALL flags and ALL face coverings at protests.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 16:50

Gloriia · Yesterday 16:49

Dressed like the SS? Didn't they have anoraks on? I missed the nazi outfits do post a pic.

...or the boots 👢 and the swastika- I didn't spot those.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 16:50

RedTagAlan · Yesterday 16:49

Ahh yes. It's the usual claims based on a "feeling".

Eh? What are you talking about?

It’s just a short scroll..

Gloriia · Yesterday 16:50

MrsBunny2018 · Yesterday 16:45

Interesting that there have been 0 arrests as per BBC, as opposed to the 169 arrests made at Notting Hill Carnival. Can't be that thuggish can they?

0 arrests but but those horrid 'white' men are soooo threatening in their black anoraks!

smallglassbottle · Yesterday 16:52

RedTagAlan · Yesterday 16:49

Ahh yes. It's the usual claims based on a "feeling".

No, it's well known across many threads over many years. Are you new here or something?

Vivi0 · Yesterday 16:52

@StandFirm

No - it is completely irrelevant.

I voted against Brexit. I would much rather be in the EU. But that would not stop small boat migrants from getting into dinghy’s, and crossing the channel.

KeepPumping · Yesterday 16:52

Septembersunrays · Yesterday 16:20

I would have been absolutely terrified seeing that lot and not knowing what or who.

Apparently they didn't have any banners or let people know what they were doing ??

Poor people about to go on holiday as well getting that fright and all the other issues with ruining people's holidays and journeys.

I don't know whether it's correct but I did read that they were masked up to avoid surveilance but to also illustrate like with the men coming on boats, we don't know who they are ? Could be wrong.

I without a doubt think we need urgent action on the boats but this for me was a step too far.

Let's hope Burnham gets a grip where others have failed.

"Let's hope Burnham gets a grip where others have failed."

LOL, that is comment of the day for me.

Cherry8809 · Yesterday 16:53

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 16:39

...or the Antifa and Palestine Action Group thugs, who don't think twice about attacking women.

Absolutely!

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