Masked men at Dover - KKK vibes

[MumofCandR]

They are utter cowards and hypocritical. The same ilk will state they're against the burkha and protests by environmental groups etc. but are happy to mask their faces in 'protest' the reality is they're just nasty specimens of humanity, full of people with self righteous white supremacy tendencies. AIBU.

The daily polls on YouGov are not a proper poll where you get a representative cross section of people to answer them, it's just whoever wants to do the question that day. I would take them all with a pinch of salt.

LOL.

Agree it's very worrying will be interesting to see what Burnham says.

I mean they've ruffled your feathers haven't they. Why are you so annoyed at people protesting peacefully? Do you prefer a bit of violence for it to be a roar maybe a hammer attack or 2?

Prior to Brexit we were party to the Dublin Regulation which has the "first entry criterion" rule. This led to a surge in small boat crossings. This was has replaced in June this year by the AMMR which sells for a fairer distribution of asylum applications within the EU.

There is a clear link to Brexit and the rise in small boat crossings. There may well be a rise in the Right in France and Germany too, but this doesn't "prove" that Brexit hasn't played a huge part in the upsurge in trafficking into the UK.

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/BRIE/2025/772910/EPRS_BRI(2025)772910_EN.pdf

"This wouldn't 'appen up in Manchester" 😬

😂

In nowhere near as many numbers.

@ClaudettedeBeauvoir well we can't win can we because joining free movement also saw an untenable upsurge in trafficking and crime didn't it !
Beds in sheds and vulnerable men slaves working from shanty caravans an explosion of brothels and all sorts.

Have you checked how many people were returned with the DA? We took more than we returned and it was incredibly low.

Nowhere used it to fix migration issues, do you really think people were sent back en masse to Italy, Spain and Greece. Which countries did that?

It’s changed now anyway as clearly it didn’t do what people still say, despite it being misinformation. And now there are new disagreements on the updated pact.

It wasn't a peaceful protest. It used psychological violence and disruption. No physical violence, sure, but that doesn't make it peaceful.

These men do not speak for me. I am English, white, have absolutely no desire for small boat arrivals or illegal immigrants, but these men are thugs and they do not speak for me.

Not true either. 2002 was 100k applications.

it’s actually quite frightening that someone can’t raise concern about a hard right uniformed gang impacting national infrastructure without the usual bad faith bleating about “strange unvetted men”. The number of boat crossings is down and there have been none in the last week. And if you want to oppose cultures that don’t respect women, have a look at the number of convictions for DV and assaults among the flag shaggers. Jesus

Exactly. It was peaceful, the police said it was peaceful. They probably hovered their faces, not because they are thugs but possibly normal working people in jobs that might not be impressed with them standing up for British people this way or thay could usevitcagsonst them. Just think if there were police officers, firefighters, nurses, teachers etc people whose jobs might have been at risk if caught on camera. I think there will be more of these to come and sadly not all will be "peaceful". Many in this country have had enough of the government not giving a toss about the number of "fighting age men" entering the country on a daily basis.

Op what any YouTube clip of antifa...that's got frightened vibes about it.... everyone masked.

Remember also that these guys had a peaceful protest, they didn't break into military bases or factories where they hit policewomen with hammers.

How does silently standing around in balaclavas, preventing people from going about their business and shutting down a port do anything to make their point though? No manifesto, no solutions, just ‘a message’? If there was a magic solution, don’t you think every government would have grabbed it with both hands? ‘Stop the boats’ is a slogan that ultimately brought down two prime ministers who coined it and failed to deliver. It’s not a solution, it’s a task.

These men are protesting a problem that everyone agrees is a problem, but at a time when the numbers are falling and governments across Europe are trying to find solutions.

So, what sort of protest is acceptable then?

Here we go @smallglassbottle

There's been an illegal immigrant problem for many years. It's been exacerbated by the wars in the Middle East of course which has destabilised the region together with the spread of mobile phones and the Internet. The French weren't exactly doing a stellar job controlling the border before Brexit (neither were we TBF).

@Gloriia Yes!
trans activists -
I thought they were more ridiculous than threatening, despite
the vituperative nature of their rhetoric, doubting they could
fight their way out of a paper bag - (I bet they’d fight like girls)

Don't know about you, but I'm not ok with this. To pretend it's just a group of blokes in anoraks sounds just a little disingenuous.

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Although....

Flag shaggers? I've not got that one on me card 😭

It lacks finesse 🤔

What's bad faith about high migration concerns?

I’d be astonished if any of them had a job, let alone in the professions you mention. These are men who followed the instructions of a rando ‘Christian nationalist’ who is cheered on by Tommy Robinson. I understand why they don’t want to be identified, and they were peaceful, albeit intimidating. But let’s not pretend they are everyday people making a point, they’re a certain kind of man who enjoys operating en masse. No different at all in fact that antifa or any other gang.

The number of boat crossings might be down but they are now resorting to mega dinghies so more people cross each time. If they stop boat crossing then anticipate a new route to getting people into the country. The method of entry is not the thing to be counting, actual people entering would be the metric to focus on and unfortunately no one actually knows what number, nor how many people in total are in the country that have no right to be.

It cannot be that hard to implement a system using facial recognition cameras alongside citizens registered, and let’s see who is in this country.