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Masked men at Dover - KKK vibes

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MumofCandR · Yesterday 11:53

They are utter cowards and hypocritical. The same ilk will state they're against the burkha and protests by environmental groups etc. but are happy to mask their faces in 'protest' the reality is they're just nasty specimens of humanity, full of people with self righteous white supremacy tendencies. AIBU.

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Anyahyacinth · Yesterday 18:22

Daisylove1 · Yesterday 18:20

She probably thinks they’re grooming gangs

This thread is bringing out the bizarre ..antifa …is Dads Army, WW2 allied soldiers it is the fight against fascism and racism…it’s twisting to claim anything else

Gloriia · Yesterday 18:22

Anyahyacinth · Yesterday 18:17

Yes because it’s about tiny numbers of people fleeing problems we the UK and others have started in their home countries. The people making these protests when interviewed make white supremacist statements and can’t explain why Ukrainian refugees are different

Tiny numbers Grin.

metameta · Yesterday 18:23

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 18:16

I'm hoping so too because I can't believe someone really thought Antifa were literally anti fascists.

Matey you can say black is white but it doesn’t make it true. ‘Antifa’ is quite literally, anti fascist.

Anyahyacinth · Yesterday 18:23

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 18:14

Which racist coward?

The mask wearing blackshirts

WouldYouLikeAnyToast · Yesterday 18:23

5128gap · Yesterday 18:20

No we wouldn't.
Obviously not all people who are anti the small boat crossings are white supremacists.
But it's a safe enough bet that all white supremacists are anti the small boat crossings, and that they would be highly likely to be amongst the protesters.
These men were masked so we don't know who they are, what they believe or how far they'd go. We've already seen people setting fire to buildings housing immigrants and hurling missiles at homes with children inside.
There are some highly dangerous men who are 'anti small boat crossings' and i can't fathom why you'd want to pretend that they and ordinary people concerned about immigration are one and the same just because they both want to stop the boats.

Exactly this.

Greenmouldycheese · Yesterday 18:23

I find the lefts protests to be way more frightening and dangerous.

LakieLady · Yesterday 18:24

NotAnotherScarf · Yesterday 17:07

No your England is groups of young men coming on small boats to harass young girls. Who believe that the streets are paved with gold. It's women being made into second class citizens. It's the archbishop of Canterbury saying there should be Sharia law in parts of the UK. It's white college students being stabbed, then arrested because they were called racist. It's British soldiers being hacked to death on the streets.

It's children attending a pop concert in Manchester being blown up.

That's your perfect England. It's not mine.

I don't see the relevance of the Manchester bombing. Salman Abedi was UK born and a UK citizen, he didn't rock up on a boat.

MumofCandR · Yesterday 18:24

metameta · Yesterday 18:23

Matey you can say black is white but it doesn’t make it true. ‘Antifa’ is quite literally, anti fascist.

I can't believe that someone would argue with this 😂 says it all really about the level of intellect of some voters...

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Cherry8809 · Yesterday 18:25

WouldYouLikeAnyToast · Yesterday 18:11

This doesn't even make sense.
You know absolutely fuck all about "anonymous balaclava clad right wingers" either but you'd feel safe locked in a room with them?!
When their usual schtick is to intimidate or riot in these circumstances, I wouldn't want to be locked up with them.
Even if I'm probably the "right kind" of woman they pretend to care about and protect underneath their masks.
(White, straight, English British etc)
Whereas immigrants will have a wide range of opinions, and personalities - which would feel more safer than a load of right wing "protesters."

I’d be more inclined to believe that the majority of those protesters were raised under a similar environment as I was, and much more likely to also share similar views, morals and values.

Of course, that assumption isn’t infallible, but I’d still hedge my bets that it’s closer to the truth than not.

TooBigForMyBoots · Yesterday 18:25

5128gap · Yesterday 17:06

Yes OP it was disturbing to see.
On the plus side, I think most of the 'ordinary people' who we're constantly being told agree with this sort of thing because the government aren't listening bla bla bla, condemn it too.
Its one thing for people to peaceably make their concerns about immigration known, quite another for a gang of...what do they call them...'fighting age men'...I believe, to rammage through our streets in masks. At worst causing fear at best huge inconvenience to people wanting to travel.
They are in real danger of overplaying their hand with this sort of thing. Most people don't want any gangs of threatening men in their communities.

I grew up on streets with balaclava'd men. It was shit. I wouldn't recommend it.😕

Daisylove1 · Yesterday 18:26

metameta · Yesterday 18:23

Matey you can say black is white but it doesn’t make it true. ‘Antifa’ is quite literally, anti fascist.

I cannot believe people are making out antifa are the baddies 😂 only a fascist would be offended!

Gloriia · Yesterday 18:26

Anyahyacinth · Yesterday 18:22

This thread is bringing out the bizarre ..antifa …is Dads Army, WW2 allied soldiers it is the fight against fascism and racism…it’s twisting to claim anything else

I know! We had a pp saying the peaceful protestors were dressed up as the SS. So weve had the op's excitable it's like the KKK! then the SS what next?! Hitler himself perhaps.

Who knew a few people quietly and calmly protesting could rattle some so much.

Anyahyacinth · Yesterday 18:27

Gloriia · Yesterday 18:22

Tiny numbers Grin.

I don’t understand the fear? Native people have every advantage to do well…why so afraid ? Where are the anti war, anti interference across the world that CREATES refugees protests??

Oh yes that would be the Pro Palestine (Syria, Lebanon, Congo, Sudan) marches

What we are witnessing is inadequate people who can’t compete, in their own language and jobs market..who need to feel better than other people

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 18:27

Anyahyacinth · Yesterday 18:18

What do you think antifa is?

It is anti fascism in name only. They ARE the fascists.

metameta · Yesterday 18:27

Greenmouldycheese · Yesterday 18:23

I find the lefts protests to be way more frightening and dangerous.

In what way?

GaaNeen · Yesterday 18:27

Anyahyacinth · Yesterday 18:17

Yes because it’s about tiny numbers of people fleeing problems we the UK and others have started in their home countries. The people making these protests when interviewed make white supremacist statements and can’t explain why Ukrainian refugees are different

Thank you for your response -
the Ukraine response is interesting -
my thoughts are that we saw on the media whole families and even their pets on the move and seeking safety - this was more distressing and relatable

with the small boats we see swaths of men - that never feels good (Reaction to Dover protest included)

Ukraine was a Europe problem -
that feels more of an ‘us’ problem

the small boats carrying the economic migrant men from eastern Europe are hard to empathise with - the UK can’t compensate for Eastern European economic difficulties-
and the men from Afghanistan, Syria, Iran etc it seems nonsensical that they don’t seek refuge in the multiple countries that they pass through on the way to UK,

metameta · Yesterday 18:28

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 18:27

It is anti fascism in name only. They ARE the fascists.

I bet you also believe that Hitler was a Socialist.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 18:29

metameta · Yesterday 18:27

In what way?

The sledgehammers might be a big giveaway.

Switchnow · Yesterday 18:29

Cherry8809 · Yesterday 18:25

I’d be more inclined to believe that the majority of those protesters were raised under a similar environment as I was, and much more likely to also share similar views, morals and values.

Of course, that assumption isn’t infallible, but I’d still hedge my bets that it’s closer to the truth than not.

Based on what we know about men who participate in this type of activity, around half or more of these men will have convictions for domestic abuse. They are following a man who was convicted for an armed kidnap in which he and two others grabbed the wrong man, and who was arrested earlier this year for filming parts of Dover port which are restricted from the public because of national
security.

If these are values you share, then god help you.

Dersie · Yesterday 18:29

MumofCandR · Yesterday 11:53

They are utter cowards and hypocritical. The same ilk will state they're against the burkha and protests by environmental groups etc. but are happy to mask their faces in 'protest' the reality is they're just nasty specimens of humanity, full of people with self righteous white supremacy tendencies. AIBU.

Stop with the white supremacy bullshit.
As a white woman id feel a million times safer walking alongside with these protesting uk men with their faces covered, than those coming into the country illegally, with no documentation after fleeing their own countries, fearing for their lives, mostly because they are wanted, serious criminals themselves.

Greenmouldycheese · Yesterday 18:29

metameta · Yesterday 18:27

In what way?

Have you bothered following the news over the past few years or do you pick and choose what you pay attention to? Their behaviour has been disgusting. Search it.

WinterGold · Yesterday 18:29

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 18:16

I'm hoping so too because I can't believe someone really thought Antifa were literally anti fascists.

The word comes from the German antifaschistisch and refers to a decentralised movement of left-wing, anarchist, and socialist individuals.
Adherents focus on tracking, protesting, and countering groups they identify as fascist, neo-Nazi, or racist.

Am I completely missing the joke here, but that is my understanding of Antifa?

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 18:30

metameta · Yesterday 18:28

I bet you also believe that Hitler was a Socialist.

When you know it really is time to stop wasting precious time on a thread. 👋

Notonthestairs · Yesterday 18:30

Daniel Thomas has quite the background.

Thomas – who goes by the name Danny Tommo – was handed a two-year sentence in 2016 for an attempted kidnap after targeting the wrong man. He and two others arrived at the victim’s home in Hampshire armed with knives. Portsmouth Crown Court heard how they punched him, pinned him against a wall, grabbed and pulled his T-shirt, trying to force him from his home. But their victim resisted, clinging to the door frame. The bungling perpetrators fled in a car, shouting: “We’ll be back.” However, realising they had got the wrong person, one of the trio later sent the victim a Facebook message apologising.
Meanwhile, Thomas was said to have made inflammatory comments online in the wake of last year’s attack on a children’s dance class in Southport. Hope Not Hate (HNH) says on its website: “Daniel Thomas (AKA Danny Tommo), Tommy Robinson’s associate... shared a video in the hours after the Southport attack claiming that ‘we need to do something very extreme’ and ‘every city needs to go up’. Two days later, Thomas would lead a demonstration at Whitehall at which more than 100 people would be arrested.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/flag-chiefs-migrant-sabotage-tommy-36326862.amp

Flag chief’s migrant sabotage with Tommy Robinson pal jailed for botched kidnap

Suspected fraudster Ryan Bridge has teamed up with Daniel Thomas, once handed a two-year sentence for his role in an attempted kidnap

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/flag-chiefs-migrant-sabotage-tommy-36326862.amp

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