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Have I clipped DH wings and been unreasonable about social events?

186 replies

ShedNine · Today 10:46

When we met 15 years ago, DH was very sociable, particularly around work events. After DD was born his attendance at those events became more sporadic; he attended fewer and generally left after an hour or so. I should add these aren’t casual post-work drinks, they’re usually client or internal social events.

DD is now 7, so we’re on a much more even keel childcare wise, so there is the opportunity for him to go to more and stay later.

Earlier this week there was a work event. Attended by everyone. He left after two drinks, and came home. I said he could have stayed longer and he said it “wasn’t fair” to do so. I asked if anyone else had left early and he said no.

We then got talking about other events, and I asked if a date had been set for the Christmas Party. He said there had but he wouldn’t be attending. I asked why and he said “to be honest, I can’t really relax at these things any more and it’s best I just don’t go”. I asked him what he meant he referenced the previous year when he’d been out until midnight, and I’d (admittedly) sent him a message telling him that he didn’t give a shit about his family because we had things to do the following day.

On that occasion, he pointed out that he’d stopped drinking at 8:30 and he was perfectly fine the following day (he was), and he had just wanted to stay out and network / get to know some of his senior colleagues better. He says he just doesn’t know what he should or shouldn’t do and so to avoid problems he’s just not going to attend.

I now feel awful, like I’ve clipped his wings. He never said anything last Christmas, he just apologised. He won’t change his mind about the Christmas party.

AIBU?

I should add, tor context, I attend work events and other social events and DH has never raised any issue with me, even when they have gone on later than expected and I’ve had a few too many. Which makes me feel even worse.

OP posts:
DaisyChain505 · Today 11:05

Yes you’ve over reacted and been hypocritical.

The best thing you can do is hold your hands up and tell him after some personal reflection you can see how wrong you are and that you’re very sorry and want things to change.

Cherry8809 · Today 11:05

ShedNine · Today 11:00

I really regret the message last Christmas. It was an overreaction, and I fully accept that.

But why would you even send that??
If a poster came on here saying her husband was sending her abusive messages because she dared to stay out past midnight, people would be shouting from the rooftops about controlling and coercive behaviour.

To say that you wonder if you’ve “clipped his wings” is simply minimising. He’s actually walking on eggshells and shrinking himself so as not to rock the boat (that you are very clearly the captain of..).

OhDuckWhatNow · Today 11:06

If you were at home all the time with zero social life, I'd maybe lean more towards YANBU but ...

The text last Christmas with the fact you also go out to events & are worse for wear afterwards?! YABVVU and have some making up to do. Are you controlling in other ways too? Give it over before he walks.

Shellityhorn · Today 11:08

ShedNine · Today 11:04

He goes relatively often, as much as me. He has 4-5 weekends away with friends (one night) every year as they all live in different places, and he sees local friends too. It’s not excessive and he’s never drunk and incapable. I don’t have an issue with that, the Christmas thing was an exception because of our plans the next day.

So he drinks sensibly and takes his parental responsibilities seriously, but you're not happy? I mean, midnight is hardly excessive for a Christmas party!

canalbird · Today 11:10

Did you sincerely apologise for the message you sent him?

Screamingabdabz · Today 11:13

I don’t think you’re controlling - I think you’re just a woman who is used to a ‘hands on’ partner and conscious that he doesn’t take the piss. You fucked up once. I’m the same. Was massively questioning of my DH on his ‘nights off’ and in retrospect didn’t need to be. He was a good man and I was insecure. You live and learn.

Just apologise and reassure him. Start anew.

leggingsbotoxmatcha · Today 11:14

Yeah OP, not good 😬

Maybe sit DH down and say that you massively regret the message you sent last year, and you know you overreacted. Apologise and let him know you fully support/want him to go to the Christmas party (and letting his hair down) this year and also at other events!

Also - if it can be helped of course - maybe don’t plan anything for the day after the Christmas do. They only happen once a year, after all. Or chuck him a bacon sarnie, some paracetamol and have a nice day out with DD.

It would suck if your temporary overreaction caused a permanent behaviour shift for your DH.

WerewolfOfLoudon · Today 11:14

If the sexes were reversed and a man had sent a message telling his wife she didn't give a shit about her family because she wasn't home before midnight, and now she's reluctant to go to work events - everyone would be saying LTB he's controlling. So yes @ShedNine YABU and your behaviour is controlling and emotionally abusive.

MrsPinkSky · Today 11:15

I work with people who will only stay for an hour at events and you can see how nervous one or two of them are, constantly glancing at the time and saying how they need to get home to their DPs.

Horrible.

LeedsLoiner · Today 11:15

PixieFairySprite · Today 10:58

'I’d (admittedly) sent him a message telling him that he didn’t give a shit about his family because we had things to do the following day.'

They'd be uproar on here if a husband sent that to this wife while she was on a rare, work night out.

All you can do is talk to him about this.

If the situation was reversed this thread would be full of "LTB he's trying to control your life".

Carodebalo · Today 11:15

Look you’ve been unreasonable but I would not say you’ve clipped his wings! Husband could have replied ‘don’t be ridiculous’ and that could have been the end of it! Just sit down with him, apologise and discuss together how best to approach all these events you both need to go to. It really shouldn’t be that difficult.

Screamingabdabz · Today 11:15

WerewolfOfLoudon · Today 11:14

If the sexes were reversed and a man had sent a message telling his wife she didn't give a shit about her family because she wasn't home before midnight, and now she's reluctant to go to work events - everyone would be saying LTB he's controlling. So yes @ShedNine YABU and your behaviour is controlling and emotionally abusive.

Oh calm down. She is reflecting on her behaviour and looking to do better. Abusive controlling people don’t do that.

ColdAsAWitches · Today 11:16

He's clearly changed his behavior because he's afraid of upsetting you again. You haven't just clipped his wings, you've changed his whole demeanor. It's horrible. You need to have a serious conversation and apologize.

Unless this is a reverse.

CamillaMcCauley · Today 11:16

It’s not often I find myself on here defending a man but that was a real asshole-level text to send him, jeez. Like, I don’t think I ever said anything that extreme to my abusive ex even when he was behaving like a single man.

How much contempt do you regularly show to your husband that you could ramp it up to that level just because he was a little late out at a Christmas do?!

nam3c4ang3 · Today 11:17

Fucking hell - your poor DH, he sounds so sensible! You sound incredible controlling - If this was reversed and you were a man you would be absolutely ripped to shreds. This is prob the first time i actually felt bad for guy on here, he doesnt deserve to be controlled by you!! Sorry - and you go out and get pissed but thats ok?! Jesus, this guy is fucking saint to still be with you.

TheSunBeatsDown · Today 11:18

Sometimes, I say or do the wrong thing in my relationship, over-react or respond very emotionally.

I'd say you are glad this came up, apologise properly and talk about a way forward.

One text message doesn't make a relationship but something is off-kilter here; and if you get on well, you can reset it.

WerewolfOfLoudon · Today 11:18

Screamingabdabz · Today 11:15

Oh calm down. She is reflecting on her behaviour and looking to do better. Abusive controlling people don’t do that.

Non controlling abusive people don't have their partners walking in eggshells in case they upset them. He's not reacting to a single incident is he?

Arbourimage · Today 11:20

You messaged him at midnight telling him he didn’t give a shit about his family because he was still out at a work party?
Jesus, I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest that wasn’t the only time you have been over the top.

AbsintheMakesTheHeartGrowFonder · Today 11:20

I asked him what he meant he referenced the previous year when he’d been out until midnight, and I’d (admittedly) sent him a message telling him that he didn’t give a shit about his family because we had things to do the following day.

Fucking hell. That's appalling behaviour on your part. Really controlling.

ThePM · Today 11:21

Yes you sound really horrible and such a hypocrite.

It is very difficult to believe that someone could accidentally ruin someone else’s enjoyment with that sort of misery guts attitude.
Who do you think you are giving permission? His mother, his boss.

At least it sounds like he has really had it up to here with your attitude, and will do what he wants the next time.

TheSunBeatsDown · Today 11:21

I don't see it as controlling, though, it's a one off text where you felt neglected/wanted something different to happen/may have felt upset or pressured.

It should be ok to go wrong and then reset the balance.

It has gone wrong if he feels he can't let his hair down occasionally- it may also be ok for him to get drunk and 'do the wrong thing' and have leeway on this.

Honest reflective conversations are called for.

Also, if you apologise, you have to not explain/justify that text. It has to be a genuine apology and stop there, and you have to change going forward; it's not productive to rehash what happened back then and justify it.

BunkBedsArePeopleShelves · Today 11:22

ThePM · Today 11:21

Yes you sound really horrible and such a hypocrite.

It is very difficult to believe that someone could accidentally ruin someone else’s enjoyment with that sort of misery guts attitude.
Who do you think you are giving permission? His mother, his boss.

At least it sounds like he has really had it up to here with your attitude, and will do what he wants the next time.

It was one text, get a grip

mumsntt · Today 11:22

you sound horrible and controlling

MrsPinkSky · Today 11:22

Screamingabdabz · Today 11:15

Oh calm down. She is reflecting on her behaviour and looking to do better. Abusive controlling people don’t do that.

Abusive controlling people very much do actually.

Yakking about behaviour is easy, changing it - not so much.

AbsintheMakesTheHeartGrowFonder · Today 11:22

Screamingabdabz · Today 11:15

Oh calm down. She is reflecting on her behaviour and looking to do better. Abusive controlling people don’t do that.

LOL. They do. Plenty of abusive/controlling people know that they are abusive but either can't or won't stop. Some of them don't realise until it's pointed out to them and do work on their behaviour. But it doesn't mean their previous abusive behaviours somehow become non-abusive.