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AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK?

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CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 09:40

This is some dystopian lord of the flies hell. Those poor women. Burned on the boat. Wth. Poor man stabbed to death. Why are the people that did this then going to be roaming free in the UK? Why are they allowed to enter the UK in the first place? Why are gangs not being 'smashed'?

Why won't the government tell us the truth about their crime rates?

AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2243693/english-channel-small-boat-migrant-dies

Channel chaos as migrant dies, two women burned and one stabbed on same boat

Forty-five of those on board continued towards the UK and were picked up by a British rescue vessel.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2243693/english-channel-small-boat-migrant-dies

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EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 23:17

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 23:12

I would absolutely apologise when I read the article for myself and it proves her right.

As I said, I do not read things from the daily mail or daily express as they are known to lie.

OP refused to post any credible sources and I will not believe anything until it comes from a credible source.

I gave you a credible source. You jumped in with unfounded accusations too fast.

Tiredtaxpayer · 31/08/2026 02:21

Catza · 30/08/2026 12:28

Comments like that make me laugh. Do you want to stop pull factor, then stop advertising what they are getting online. I see again and again comments across all social media akin "they come over and get everything for free - a house, a car, benefits". Whether or not it is true, it's irrelevant. You just put the biggest advertisement into the universe and every man from across the globe can see it and think "oh, I get all that, do I? Better get on that boat".
You want it to stop? Then start thinking about what you share online.

It's all over tiktok, put out by the people traffickers so what I say doesn't make any difference.

Tiredtaxpayer · 31/08/2026 02:47

Catza · 30/08/2026 13:10

I assure you people from India and Carribean were also not asked if they wanted British people to colonise their country.

British interest in India was started as a trading initiative set up by the East India Company in 1600. The inhabitants were quite happy to have us then because there was money in it for them.
Vasco de Gama opened a sea trading route for Portugal in 1498. Goa was a Portugese colony from 1510
Throughout the 17th and 18th centuries, the Dutch and French—along with smaller presences from Denmark—competed for trade and territory, though the French eventually lost power to the British.

The West Indies was first colonised by Spain in 1492 and followed by Britain, France, the Dutch Republic, and Denmark.
Maybe if they have a beef with colonization they can spread the complaints around a bit.

I get fed up with people blaming UK for being soley responsible for Colonialism

Tiredtaxpayer · 31/08/2026 03:03

Firstbornunicorn · 30/08/2026 15:26

Sorry, the Irish didn't make good house guests because we were all drunks!? I was just at the Ulster-American folk museum yesterday, and I think you could be doing with a walk around it to see what the Irish were actually facing in those days.

I am aware of the working conditions of Irish migrant laborers, traditionally known as "navvies". They played a massive role in constructing Liverpool's infrastructure, including the Mersey Tunnels in the 1930's. While historical records focus heavily on their immense contributions to these engineering feats, the connection between heavy drinking and manual laborers of this era is rooted in the harsh socio-economic realities of 19th and early 20th-century construction life,
The "Lump" and Pub Recruitment: Many contractors hired laborers using the cash-in-hand "lump" system. Wages were often distributed inside local public houses (pubs) on Friday nights, directly tying the workplace to alcohol consumption.
Many young Irish men emigrated alone from rural counties. Pubs provided a social community and a centre for Irish culture

NullaEffugium · 31/08/2026 04:46

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 22:34

See the French article. You’ve been very quick on the fake news, people are less intelligent line but it’s reported in the French press.

Most likely their burnt legs are due to accidental injury. Friction burns from sitting astride the side of the rubber dingy or burns from sitting too close to the motor engine. I doubt anyone was using fire on the boat.

NullaEffugium · 31/08/2026 04:48

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 23:17

I gave you a credible source. You jumped in with unfounded accusations too fast.

The French report states that criminal investigations are being opened in regards to the stabbing and death at sea. Not the burns on the women’s legs which indicates those were accidental injuries. The OP did imply someone had burned the women in an attack.

NullaEffugium · 31/08/2026 04:52

I don’t know if it’s been mentioned, but the entire boat load was returned to Calais. No one on this boat ended up in the UK. The French have them.

OP should probably have picked a report on a boat that actually made it to the UK to express concerns.

NullaEffugium · 31/08/2026 04:55

LuckyHazelFox · 30/08/2026 22:30

Illegal crossings aren't fake news. Dangerous crossings aren't fake news.

True, although this news article wasn’t about a crossing per se. It was an attempt at a crossing that failed. They’re all in Calais.

LuckyHazelFox · 31/08/2026 06:17

NullaEffugium · 31/08/2026 04:52

I don’t know if it’s been mentioned, but the entire boat load was returned to Calais. No one on this boat ended up in the UK. The French have them.

OP should probably have picked a report on a boat that actually made it to the UK to express concerns.

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Oh well, 600 illegals coming in on any one day, one failed attempt. That leaves the majority on these shores.

LuckyHazelFox · 31/08/2026 06:17

NullaEffugium · 31/08/2026 04:55

True, although this news article wasn’t about a crossing per se. It was an attempt at a crossing that failed. They’re all in Calais.

My post, below, applies here.

LuckyHazelFox · 31/08/2026 06:19

I shall rephrase: a huge number arriving in one day and one boat going back. The problem still remains.

KatiePricesKnickers · 31/08/2026 06:29

NullaEffugium · 31/08/2026 04:55

True, although this news article wasn’t about a crossing per se. It was an attempt at a crossing that failed. They’re all in Calais.

Now I’m confused because the Daily Express says ‘Forty-five of those on board continued towards the UK and were picked up by a British rescue vessel, according to French authorities.’

AndyKitten · 31/08/2026 06:43

AndyKitten · 30/08/2026 22:31

One dead, three injured, one of them severely and airlifted to hospital in Boulogne Sur Mer, two treated in Calais.

Death as a result of cardiac arrest.

According to Prefecture Maritime.

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Same article states that 45 of these continued to the UK. They set off in Gravelines.

So no, they are not in Calais.

LuckyHazelFox · 31/08/2026 06:46

AndyKitten · 31/08/2026 06:43

Same article states that 45 of these continued to the UK. They set off in Gravelines.

So no, they are not in Calais.

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Oh, so it's not the news sources that are presenting misinformation, it's the people complaining about misinformation!

AndyKitten · 31/08/2026 07:10

LuckyHazelFox · 31/08/2026 06:46

Oh, so it's not the news sources that are presenting misinformation, it's the people complaining about misinformation!

Nord Littoral is not very clear on who went where.

They have more info on the victims and that a criminal investigation has been launched after stabbing victim was helicoptered to Boulogne Sur Mer, and women with the burns left the boat in Calais to get help.

Prefecture Maritime mentions that the 45 if the initially 110 of the Gravelines boat continued to the UK. Some stayed in Calais because they needed assistance.

LuckyHazelFox · 31/08/2026 07:14

AndyKitten · 31/08/2026 07:10

Nord Littoral is not very clear on who went where.

They have more info on the victims and that a criminal investigation has been launched after stabbing victim was helicoptered to Boulogne Sur Mer, and women with the burns left the boat in Calais to get help.

Prefecture Maritime mentions that the 45 if the initially 110 of the Gravelines boat continued to the UK. Some stayed in Calais because they needed assistance.

Thanks for that AK.

AndyKitten · 31/08/2026 07:15

LuckyHazelFox · 31/08/2026 06:46

Oh, so it's not the news sources that are presenting misinformation, it's the people complaining about misinformation!

I’m reading two articles and it’s all a bit unclear.

Apparently it was a very busy night because there were three departures and another vessel was in distress as well.

EasternStandard · 31/08/2026 08:11

Tiredtaxpayer · 31/08/2026 02:21

It's all over tiktok, put out by the people traffickers so what I say doesn't make any difference.

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Yes I don’t think it’s mn that people are accessing, but SM from traffickers selling the crossing.

MaturingCheeseball · 31/08/2026 08:40

thepariscrimefiles · 30/08/2026 18:40

A lot of Afghan men worked with British forces, acting as interpretors and putting themselves and their families in harm's way. Now that the allied forces have all left and the Taliban are back in charge, they are in great danger. No wonder they risk their lives to get to a country that actually owes them a debt of gratitude.

Like the one who abducted and raped a woman in his taxi in Edinburgh and then needed an interpreter although he was An Interpreter?

CoventryCity · 31/08/2026 08:49

I am smiling (chuckling actually, at times) scanning these last 2 pages posts, over a Nespresso (milky frothy but strong) coffee this morning.

Thank you @LuckyHazelFox @AndyKitten @EasternStandard for bringing some sanity to the incoherence of the unfounded shrill cries (I imagine they'd be irl) of fake news. And thank you for calling for apologies from proponents of said insanity. Worth a try :) xx

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CoventryCity · 31/08/2026 08:54

MaturingCheeseball · 31/08/2026 08:40

Like the one who abducted and raped a woman in his taxi in Edinburgh and then needed an interpreter although he was An Interpreter?

It's not even safe to say to our daughters 'Don't walk/ bus, get a taxi' now is it. Several stories of taxi driver (and pretend taxi driver) sex attacks.

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smallglassbottle · 31/08/2026 08:57

CoventryCity · 31/08/2026 08:54

It's not even safe to say to our daughters 'Don't walk/ bus, get a taxi' now is it. Several stories of taxi driver (and pretend taxi driver) sex attacks.

At the rate things are going they'll need a chaperone every time they go out, or just stay inside the house. Strange, I'm sure I've read about cultures with these rules before somewhere 🤔

CoventryCity · 31/08/2026 09:07

smallglassbottle · 31/08/2026 08:57

At the rate things are going they'll need a chaperone every time they go out, or just stay inside the house. Strange, I'm sure I've read about cultures with these rules before somewhere 🤔

😩

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LuckyHazelFox · 31/08/2026 09:20

The rest of us can keep being alert and keep our hand out the sand. I'm extremely fortunate where I live but I'm not in a bubble.

TemperanceWest · 31/08/2026 09:31

CoventryCity · 31/08/2026 08:49

I am smiling (chuckling actually, at times) scanning these last 2 pages posts, over a Nespresso (milky frothy but strong) coffee this morning.

Thank you @LuckyHazelFox @AndyKitten @EasternStandard for bringing some sanity to the incoherence of the unfounded shrill cries (I imagine they'd be irl) of fake news. And thank you for calling for apologies from proponents of said insanity. Worth a try :) xx

The fact that you like your coffee frothy is very apt.

Have a lovely bank holiday all.