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AIBU to feel panicked about Russia bombing the UK?

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Downtherabbithole34 · Yesterday 20:29

Currently having an actual panic attack about Russia bombing the UK and me and my kid dying.

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useyourmindnotai · Today 11:57

BlackeyedSusan · Yesterday 20:37

Very very unlikely as then it would trigger article 5 of NATO. They do not want that.

Yes and then NATO would say they don’t want to escalate. We would just be collateral damage.

NATO would dress it up as protecting the world from ww3 and would look at non combative ways to sanction Russia. They certainly would not all pile in to attack Russia if we got bombed.

useyourmindnotai · Today 11:58

WhereYouLeftIt · Yesterday 23:11

There is no way someone like Putin would commit suicide, he's far too convinced that the world needs him to run things properly.

They are not going to bomb a NATO country. They're far too busy fucking about with our underwater pipelines, social media, and hacking into our computer systems. All of which they've been doing for years.

This. Putin has gone a bit Mr Twit really it’s all about inconvenience and mind games currently.

EasternStandard · Today 12:00

Tunnocks34 · Yesterday 21:14

Putin is very risk averse. He isn’t a mad man. He invaded Ukraine because he thought he would win. He KNOWS he wouldn’t win against NATO. Even NATO without the US is stronger than Russia.

This idea that Putin would want to start a war that would result in his own country as a suicide attempt is just nonsense. He has children, grandchild he loves and wants to leave a legacy.

Now - there likely will be some sort of lower level excursion, such as hacking, or arson. They have done this consistently since the start of the Ukraine war but ALWAYS low enough as to not warrant a military response. Because he knows he would not win. Just think rationally. And stop reading tabloids, including Sky News. BBC or AP news don’t lead with these dramatic headlines.

There is a page on a well known social media site called doomsday debunked. I suggest joining. Lots of very intelligent and educated people able to debunk headlines and political noise and give calm and clarity.

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This is useful.

I think he’s brutal and will use men around him as fodder which is just horrendous for them. But makes the suffering more local. Which is obviously so bad for those involved. But on the rest this post has a point.

AssassinsEyebrow · Today 12:02

Tyrants like him only commit suicide when faced with imminent capture, like Hitler. Putin is lightyears away from that.

He's testing defences & sabre rattling that's all, if this had gone ignored then he might have escalated. But it HASN'T been ignored, we have responded proportionally every time and so have our allies. It says something that even the US have stepped up to tell him to quit it - it says that we are well protected and that any attempts to escalate will result in massive consequences. He doesn't want that.

The sabre rattling allows Putin to show others in Russia that he's not grown weak & old, that's it. The bear is growling from his cave, no more. We're safe and you and your children are safe.

Error404FucksNotFound · Today 12:08

The way things are going I'd be more worried about trump bombing us than putin

But seriously, if putin was actually about to start a nuclear war I suspect someone close to him would stop him by whatever means necessary.

Even if he did want to die and take the world with him, those closest to him are unlikely to feel the same way.

It suits the West to push the putin danger narrative but the risk of nuclear war is very low.

War these days is fought online.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · Today 12:12

LejlaKapovic · Today 11:55

Well, what do you expect when your country butts its nose in where it doesn't belong: in everyone's business. Thank your government for making you all a target of Russian fury. And what for? Zelensky and his master, Netanyahu.

Russia has a right to defend itself if needs be.

Oh do fuck off with your antisemitism.

Friendlygingercat · Today 12:15

In the United Kingdom, the Prime Minister is not directly elected by the entire nation but is chosen as an MP within a single constituency, subsequently leading the political party that commands a majority in the House of Commons. Under this parliamentary system, the government of the day holds the legal authority to conduct foreign policy, deploy military forces, and allocate budgets without requiring a direct public vote or referendum for individual international crises. Proponents of this system argue it allows for decisive governance and strategic consistency, while critics frequently argue that major geopolitical commitments - especially those involving significant financial cost or military risk - should require a more explicit, direct mandate from the public.

In this day of universal smart phones and with our technology we can do better. We have an unelected PM (who was voted for by a few thousand people in one hole-in-corner constituency) thinks he has the power to drag this country into a potential war with no popular mandate. Its time we have a referendum on whether and to what extent the population of this country wish to continue to support Ukraine - a third world country on the fringes of Europe. We have enough of our own problems at home.

useyourmindnotai · Today 12:19

Error404FucksNotFound · Today 12:08

The way things are going I'd be more worried about trump bombing us than putin

But seriously, if putin was actually about to start a nuclear war I suspect someone close to him would stop him by whatever means necessary.

Even if he did want to die and take the world with him, those closest to him are unlikely to feel the same way.

It suits the West to push the putin danger narrative but the risk of nuclear war is very low.

War these days is fought online.

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Quite. Can just imagine 🤔

’There was a button, a big beautiful button. Some may say the biggest and best.
I pushed it, you see there were some naaasty people over there, possibly the worst people and we have to eradicate them.
Already I’ve had a call, such a great call, really nice call. Andy said to me ‘Donald I don’t know how you did it but you did and we are so thankful’ I told him don’t worry we always take care of things. I’ve seen the people there , bit hot, bit burned but they have been saying too from their hospital beds that they just want to thank me. It was a great bomb. I’ve made bombs great again. ‘

CurdinHenry · Today 12:21

I actually prefer the idea of all dying immediately together in a blazing inferno than slowly saying goodbye to loved ones one by one (as happens in ordinary life). But I appreciate this is probably a niche view.

CustardySergeant · Today 12:23

I think Trump is by far the biggest risk to world peace. There are no longer any checks and balances in place. He would take us all with him if he thinks he's going down.

CalmFairy · Today 12:27

None of those threats bother me whatsoever.

But what i do think about is IF it happened i very much doubt it, is where would they start bombing first, as I wouldn't be my area as nothing interesting ever happens here.

SadiraOfTyr · Today 12:30

Highly unlikely that any of their ICBMs still work - they can’t even keep their single aircraft carrier working and are reduced to buying drones from Iran. The warheads have probably been nicked and replaced with scrap lead and the propellant will have gone damp and mouldy because all the funds for maintenance are resting in some general’s account.

SadiraOfTyr · Today 12:36

LejlaKapovic · Today 11:55

Well, what do you expect when your country butts its nose in where it doesn't belong: in everyone's business. Thank your government for making you all a target of Russian fury. And what for? Zelensky and his master, Netanyahu.

Russia has a right to defend itself if needs be.

Russia does indeed have a right to defend itself. But Russia has not been attacked. Russia is the attacker in this case. And Ukraine, with the help of her allies, is defending herself.

MrsPhilippaPippaVoss · Today 12:37

by the time that happens, most countries would have launched nukes

EasternStandard · Today 12:39

CurdinHenry · Today 12:21

I actually prefer the idea of all dying immediately together in a blazing inferno than slowly saying goodbye to loved ones one by one (as happens in ordinary life). But I appreciate this is probably a niche view.

Reading the end of Richard Rhodes’ book which detailed what people saw puts me off that.

Bluenotgreen · Today 12:50

You need to see your GP

eurochick · Today 12:52

LejlaKapovic · Today 11:55

Well, what do you expect when your country butts its nose in where it doesn't belong: in everyone's business. Thank your government for making you all a target of Russian fury. And what for? Zelensky and his master, Netanyahu.

Russia has a right to defend itself if needs be.

Hang on. I thought he was a Nazi? How can he also be Neti’s puppet.

(Someone is confused here and I’m pretty sure it is not me)

CurdinHenry · Today 13:28

EasternStandard · Today 12:39

Reading the end of Richard Rhodes’ book which detailed what people saw puts me off that.

Well you'd want to be ground zero

Empress13 · Today 13:35

This has been going on for months now and he hasn’t done anything. Please see your Dr and get something for your anxiety. TBH there is absolutely nothing any of us can do in the unlikely event it happened so what’s the point of worrying? Please calm down and get some help.

SoThatwasSummer · Today 14:09

@Empress13 no it's hasn't he has never directly been so verbally aggressive to us

Livelovebehappy · Today 14:15

As they say; 'hope for the best, prepare for the worst', we have no idea what tomorrow brings and cant second guess what's in someone elses head unfortunately..

gamerchick · Today 14:22

There are other ways to disable a country. Like a cyber attack on something important to us. Which they can then deny but it'll keep.is busy. Just prepare for shortages in things that are important to you.

Crikeyalmighty · Today 14:26

Very very unlikely lovely - we also have nuclear deterrent which would probably be used in that instance.

EasternStandard · Today 14:29

CurdinHenry · Today 13:28

Well you'd want to be ground zero

Ah no I’d still choose your other option in that post. One by one as life does.

EnterFunnyNameHere · Today 15:19

I mean this with kindness, but I'm pretty sure I recognise your username as having posted a fair few threads relating to anxiety/OCD/paranoia/mental health struggles this year.

I appreciate you are struggling, but you are not going to get proper support here to help you deal with your longer-term struggles. Have you been really clear with your GP the degree to which these fears are impacting you?

(Apologies if I have you mixed up with someone else)

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