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AIBU to feel panicked about Russia bombing the UK?

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Downtherabbithole34 · Yesterday 20:29

Currently having an actual panic attack about Russia bombing the UK and me and my kid dying.

OP posts:
WhereYouLeftIt · Yesterday 23:11

Downtherabbithole34 · Yesterday 20:38

But have you never thought that Putin would do it because he might commit suicide and he'll be gone anyway so why not take the rest of the world with him. He's nothing to lose.

There is no way someone like Putin would commit suicide, he's far too convinced that the world needs him to run things properly.

They are not going to bomb a NATO country. They're far too busy fucking about with our underwater pipelines, social media, and hacking into our computer systems. All of which they've been doing for years.

StolenTeapots · Yesterday 23:12

terrifiedgran · Yesterday 20:52

I assume you get in this much of a state getting in a car? Much more likely to die a horrible death with your children then.

Helpful post to someone clearly in mental distress

MaidOfSteel · Yesterday 23:18

I grew up in the 70s and 80s believing that the end would come with a Soviet bomb, But I don’t believe it’ll happen now. Despite his big man act, Putin won’t want to take on NATO. His armed forces are in bits just fighting Ukraine.

Spiderx · Yesterday 23:29

Downtherabbithole34 · Yesterday 20:38

But have you never thought that Putin would do it because he might commit suicide and he'll be gone anyway so why not take the rest of the world with him. He's nothing to lose.

Yes, the scientific technical answer is he ( Ras)Putin is an absolute egomanical nutter so anything is possible...unfortunately ☹️

HJKNBF · Today 00:03

it is unlikely to be a big attack. Much more likely to be a cyber attacks, etc. Can you take any sensible precautions- some extra cash out, a bit of extra water and food.

Switch off the news. Look at something nice instead. Plan a nice activity with DC

look for anxiety coping skills.

Balloonhearts · Today 00:10

Get a fucking grip. I've said it before, I'll say it again: Russia cannot take Ukraine on their own bloody doorstep, they're not stupid enough to go up against the UK and they certainly don't want to go up against NATO. They would trigger article 5. That will not end well for them. Putin has children whom I think we can safely say he does not want to die. He wants a soviet Russia. Not a smoking hole in the map.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · Today 00:12

Downtherabbithole34 · Yesterday 20:38

But have you never thought that Putin would do it because he might commit suicide and he'll be gone anyway so why not take the rest of the world with him. He's nothing to lose.

Contrary to the absolute nonsense you might read on Social Media and in certain UK shitrags masquerading as newspapers, Putin is not insane, not crazy, not stupid, not "unpredictable", and not a lunatic.

The world has had nuclear weapons for 80 years, through dozens of leaders who had the option to deploy them. None of them have bar Truman, and he certainly wasn't insane or unpredictable.

Putin knows as well as anyone that an indiscriminate nuclear attack on a NATO member would lead to the total destruction of Russia, everything Putin cares about, his legacy, and the future of Russia and the ethnic Russian people, so no, he's not about to go firing nukes at the UK, so you really need to stop fretting about that and get some more help for your anxiety.

Putin could have by now deployed tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine, because it would certainly expedite the end of that conflict, yet so far there is no sign whatsoever of any intent to do so because even that would provoke international outrage and condemnation, and likely poison already fractious relations with the likes of China, who Russia is going to be increasingly dependant upon given their struggling economy and growing international isolation.

DooDallyHallie · Today 00:13

Russia cant even beat Ukraine - a war they tnought would be over in 3 weeks. I dont think they will want to be taking on NATO

XDownwiththissortofthingX · Today 00:14

Spiderx · Yesterday 23:29

Yes, the scientific technical answer is he ( Ras)Putin is an absolute egomanical nutter so anything is possible...unfortunately ☹️

No, he really is not. This is nothing but ignorant propaganda.

Pumpkinswirls · Today 00:14

You need to remember the more you click on these scary news articles the more money they make. It’s in the media’s interest to print scary click bait articles. You will notice that more responsible outlets don’t post every single threatening thing that a politician comes out with.

It also benefits the government for us to be in a constant state of anxiety as we’re more malleable that way.

If the worst happened there’s nothing you can do anyway:

AmnesiacsDream · Today 00:15

Downtherabbithole34 · Yesterday 22:52

I posted because I have no one else who understands. My family all this k in and and just laugh at me. So I guess, yes, I needed some rational thoughts and explanations to calm me down.

I hope some of these posts have helped. I know anxiety can feel really difficult to cope with.

Putin has a lot to lose from starting a war with NATO. He can’t even win against Ukraine, he knows it would only wreck Russia and leave them open to opportunistic attacks from China and old Soviet nations that still harbour a grudge. He’s not suicidal and despite his dictatorial position, he would still need to get his heads of military to pass on any orders that were clearly going to result in the destruction of Russia, so they’d ALL have to be suicidal.

Working with my DD who has anxiety, I find the most effective interventions for her are the physical ones that minimize/control the physical signs of anxiety and that distract her from thinking about whatever she’s worried about. There are a whole bunch of ideas in this article: https://www.bustle.com/p/how-to-calm-down-quickly-using-these-15-expert-hacks-18003027

If you aren’t already getting help, go and see your GP and engage with treatment. There’s a lot that can help. Anxiety is a really treatable mental health condition.

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Any1ForTennis · Today 00:16

I'm not worried, I can't control it either way so why waste head space on it.

Snippit · Today 00:19

TemporarilyCantDoMyself · Yesterday 20:40

Oh love, they won't, they really won't. It's all behind the scenes sabotage and cyber attacks these days. Unpleasant but nothing like being bombed.
Putin - like most bullies - is a bloody great blowhard and coward. As long as he maintains his own self-delusions he believes in himself. Stupid, stupid man. Please don't fear him.

You’re right there. I remember all the scare mongering during the Cold War, the Americans were building bunkers full of food, they were so paranoid of the communists. They’re country is slowly breaking down, fights at the fuel stations due to shortages, the people are fed up with it. They have enough on their plate with the Ukrainian conflict.

Aintgointogoa · Today 00:19

what @NolanChanceJustLikeTheWeatherNSoul said. So much more damage occurs over socials / internet or stealth ? attacks like the poisonings which no one can actually 'prove'.....Like guerrilla warfare, to wear you down. Cable sabotage more likely than nuke !

XMissPlacedX · Today 08:40

StolenTeapots · Yesterday 23:12

Helpful post to someone clearly in mental distress

I just don’t understand some people, pure spiteful. I always wonder what made them that way.

aliasfrog · Today 08:46

Op log off for a bit. Stop reading the news. If something like that happens (extremely unlikely) then worrying about it won't help anyway.
Step away from the Internet for a bit, reconnect with real life.

HoppingPavlova · Today 08:51

Of course he will attack UK, however most likely this will take the form of ongoing cyber attacks. You are not going to be bombed while having a cup of coffee.

terrifiedgran · Today 08:52

XMissPlacedX · Today 08:40

I just don’t understand some people, pure spiteful. I always wonder what made them that way.

I thought it might help them to see how low the comparative risk to something so common was?

Sartre · Today 08:56

He’s had years to do this if part of his plan, which it obviously isn’t because he isn’t entirely delusional. Get help with the anxiety.

BMW58 · Today 09:10

Good grief OP I'm 68 and have been hearing how Russia is going to kill me and everyone I know for........68 years.

Do you think the Russians who would have to fire the rockets want their loved ones to die - because they know very well that would be the outcome if they pressed the button.

You know when things are going badly in Russia when they start threatening. That's all they have as a weapon against the West - fear.

Putin is fucked and he knows it. His greatest threat is the people around him - and time is running out for him.

He could give orders but he has to rely on those orders being obeyed - and that's his Achilles Heel, he can't rely on them.

SoThatwasSummer · Today 11:46

Tunnocks34 · Yesterday 21:14

Putin is very risk averse. He isn’t a mad man. He invaded Ukraine because he thought he would win. He KNOWS he wouldn’t win against NATO. Even NATO without the US is stronger than Russia.

This idea that Putin would want to start a war that would result in his own country as a suicide attempt is just nonsense. He has children, grandchild he loves and wants to leave a legacy.

Now - there likely will be some sort of lower level excursion, such as hacking, or arson. They have done this consistently since the start of the Ukraine war but ALWAYS low enough as to not warrant a military response. Because he knows he would not win. Just think rationally. And stop reading tabloids, including Sky News. BBC or AP news don’t lead with these dramatic headlines.

There is a page on a well known social media site called doomsday debunked. I suggest joining. Lots of very intelligent and educated people able to debunk headlines and political noise and give calm and clarity.

Edited

Great post and actually helpful .

Op Putin has done what no one expected when he invaded Ukraine ! Who knows what he will.do but in the early days it helped me to remember Putin does have family I think he has a daughter in France at one point ?
So he wouldn't want to press nuclear button

However he can do other stuff to disrupt us and make life hard.

beeautifullif3 · Today 11:47

Slow day op ? 🤦‍♀️

Echobelly · Today 11:49

Downtherabbithole34 · Yesterday 20:38

But have you never thought that Putin would do it because he might commit suicide and he'll be gone anyway so why not take the rest of the world with him. He's nothing to lose.

Who's talking about him committing suicide? You are letting your mind run away with things.

Russia is financially bankrupt, they can barely keep up their assault on the Ukraine, but using bots to spread fear and anxiety online and help get a pliable idiot in the White House is much cheaper for them.

Echobelly · Today 11:52

Tunnocks34 · Yesterday 21:14

Putin is very risk averse. He isn’t a mad man. He invaded Ukraine because he thought he would win. He KNOWS he wouldn’t win against NATO. Even NATO without the US is stronger than Russia.

This idea that Putin would want to start a war that would result in his own country as a suicide attempt is just nonsense. He has children, grandchild he loves and wants to leave a legacy.

Now - there likely will be some sort of lower level excursion, such as hacking, or arson. They have done this consistently since the start of the Ukraine war but ALWAYS low enough as to not warrant a military response. Because he knows he would not win. Just think rationally. And stop reading tabloids, including Sky News. BBC or AP news don’t lead with these dramatic headlines.

There is a page on a well known social media site called doomsday debunked. I suggest joining. Lots of very intelligent and educated people able to debunk headlines and political noise and give calm and clarity.

Edited

Agree this is an excellent post and talking a lot of sense

LejlaKapovic · Today 11:55

Downtherabbithole34 · Yesterday 20:29

Currently having an actual panic attack about Russia bombing the UK and me and my kid dying.

Well, what do you expect when your country butts its nose in where it doesn't belong: in everyone's business. Thank your government for making you all a target of Russian fury. And what for? Zelensky and his master, Netanyahu.

Russia has a right to defend itself if needs be.