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1st cousin marriage

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Wiseplumnet · Yesterday 16:00

AIBU to ask your opinion on 1st cousin marriage?.I have read that the government is looking to ban it. I know it is more prevelent ( but declining) in the UK among people of Asian origin. I am not coming from a judgemental or racist angle. I am just interested to know how mum'snetters of all ethnicities feel about marriage between 1st cousin's. I know it used to be more common in the west at one time, apart from keeping money/property in families, people travelled less widely, so there was less choice of marriage partners.I worked with a girl ( White British) who was in a secret relationship with her 1st cousin and they are very reluctant to tell their family, so there seems to be a cultural taboo in 1st cousins being romantically involved.Genetic factors resulting in disabilities (statistically twice as many as in unrelated parents) is sometimes given as a reason for banning cousin marriage, however we have genetic screening now, and disabilities aren't always serious.As so many babies died in infancy before we had vaccines, better health care etc , it was probably difficult to differentiate whether the close relationship between parents was the cause of any disabilities their children . Speaking for myself,I can't imagine wanting to marry any of the cousins I was brought up with as they seem more like brothers to me, but I could understand why someone may be attracted to a 1st cousin who they first met as adults. Or does it give you the instant 'Yuk' ? Also is banning 1st cousin marriage the same as banning 1st cousin sexual relationships and children, or would that become illegal? Maybe there's no need for a legal ban as the tradition will just die out over time

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nomas · Yesterday 23:57

EasternStandard · Yesterday 23:56

You do know Labour are in power and as said chose to block the bill.

This issue was debated in the media in Tory governments but they didn’t raise it.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 23:58

nomas · Yesterday 23:57

This issue was debated in the media in Tory governments but they didn’t raise it.

Eh?

The Labour Government Blocked It: Prime Minister Keir Starmer's Labour government chose not to give the bill parliamentary backing or "whip" its MPs to vote for it. Because the government did not allocate time for it, the scheduled second reading was stalled, effectively stopping a full Commons vote from taking place

nomas · Yesterday 23:59

BananaPeels · Yesterday 23:56

they could have but didn’t. But that doesn’t mean they don’t support it now. What has what they did or didn’t do in 2024 got to do with now? They have a completely different leader than they did at the last election.

Yes they suddenly support it when they aren’t the ruling party.

Pretty cynical move.

LifetimesAgo · Yesterday 23:59

Some of the comments here are just as thick of those made by the idiotic parents on the documentary, claiming that their children were totally fine until the doctors poisoned them with medicine.

HRTQueen · Yesterday 23:59

nomas · Yesterday 23:56

Not sure what Israel has to do with it.

Really you are not aware that many Muslims are not in support of Isreal

mmm ok

EasternStandard · Today 00:00

nomas · Yesterday 23:59

Yes they suddenly support it when they aren’t the ruling party.

Pretty cynical move.

What’s up with you and Labour? Why so loyal. They’ve blocked it moving forward and are in power rn

BananaPeels · Today 00:00

nomas · Yesterday 23:59

Yes they suddenly support it when they aren’t the ruling party.

Pretty cynical move.

So? Again, new leader. I don’t answer for anything the person who did my job prior to me taking over, why should kemi? She has her own priorities.

nomas · Today 00:00

EasternStandard · Yesterday 23:58

Eh?

The Labour Government Blocked It: Prime Minister Keir Starmer's Labour government chose not to give the bill parliamentary backing or "whip" its MPs to vote for it. Because the government did not allocate time for it, the scheduled second reading was stalled, effectively stopping a full Commons vote from taking place

Im talking about when Tories were in power. Thought that was clear.

nomas · Today 00:01

HRTQueen · Yesterday 23:59

Really you are not aware that many Muslims are not in support of Isreal

mmm ok

What has that got to do with this thread?

nomas · Today 00:02

EasternStandard · Today 00:00

What’s up with you and Labour? Why so loyal. They’ve blocked it moving forward and are in power rn

The Tories bring out a PMB just as they’re leaving power.

Either their timing sucks or they thought Starmer would block it.

EasternStandard · Today 00:03

nomas · Today 00:02

The Tories bring out a PMB just as they’re leaving power.

Either their timing sucks or they thought Starmer would block it.

Ridiculous. No accountability. No wonder Starmer was ousted. Too infuriating.

HRTQueen · Today 00:04

nomas · Today 00:01

What has that got to do with this thread?

You stated the Tories courted the Muslim vote

I pointed out that being in support of Isreal as the Tories are would not go down well with many Muslim voters …

they haven’t in the way Labour and the Greens have they know it’s not where their votes generally are

nomas · Today 00:05

LifetimesAgo · Yesterday 23:59

Some of the comments here are just as thick of those made by the idiotic parents on the documentary, claiming that their children were totally fine until the doctors poisoned them with medicine.

Careful, your true colours are showing….

AplineDaisies · Today 00:05

A friend at school (Asian, muslim) married her cousin. Her parents were cousins. Her first two babies died before they were two years old. She said the drs said it was due to their relatededness but my friend was in denial about it. I cant remember the name of the syndrome/ illness both children had but it was polyketo something (sorry was a long time ago)..She then had a third child who has cystic fibrosis, which is very rare in Asian communities.

I think cousin marrying should be illegal. However friend went to her parents home country to marry her cousin.

nomas · Today 00:05

HRTQueen · Today 00:04

You stated the Tories courted the Muslim vote

I pointed out that being in support of Isreal as the Tories are would not go down well with many Muslim voters …

they haven’t in the way Labour and the Greens have they know it’s not where their votes generally are

Again, what does Tory support of Israel have to do with first cousin marriage in the UK?

Ans here did I ‘state’ that the Tories courted the Muslim vote? Confused

HRTQueen · Today 00:07

nomas · Today 00:05

Again, what does Tory support of Israel have to do with first cousin marriage in the UK?

Ans here did I ‘state’ that the Tories courted the Muslim vote? Confused

Edited

Why not just read the posts your answers are there

nomas · Today 00:07

HRTQueen · Today 00:07

Why not just read the posts your answers are there

Because it’s waffle, they are unrelated subjects.

nomas · Today 00:09

EasternStandard · Today 00:03

Ridiculous. No accountability. No wonder Starmer was ousted. Too infuriating.

Accountability means if you want to get something done, do it yourself. Not rely om the incoming opposing government.

HRTQueen · Today 00:10

AplineDaisies · Today 00:05

A friend at school (Asian, muslim) married her cousin. Her parents were cousins. Her first two babies died before they were two years old. She said the drs said it was due to their relatededness but my friend was in denial about it. I cant remember the name of the syndrome/ illness both children had but it was polyketo something (sorry was a long time ago)..She then had a third child who has cystic fibrosis, which is very rare in Asian communities.

I think cousin marrying should be illegal. However friend went to her parents home country to marry her cousin.

That’s is really sad and just so much unnecessary suffering it’s cruel

sadly if it is banned, and let’s hope it is it won’t totally stop these marriages as its deeply ingrained in some communities

there also needs to be educational support addressing the issues

nomas · Today 00:12

HRTQueen · Today 00:07

Why not just read the posts your answers are there

Reading it again is not going to magically find a link between Israel and cousin marriage in the UK.

EasternStandard · Today 00:13

nomas · Today 00:09

Accountability means if you want to get something done, do it yourself. Not rely om the incoming opposing government.

So why not ask Labour to do it rather than block it? Since they are actually in power. Bizarrely blind loyalty.

nomas · Today 00:13

HRTQueen · Today 00:10

That’s is really sad and just so much unnecessary suffering it’s cruel

sadly if it is banned, and let’s hope it is it won’t totally stop these marriages as its deeply ingrained in some communities

there also needs to be educational support addressing the issues

Edited

There already is education support. That’s why the rate of first cousin marriage is falling steeply.

nomas · Today 00:15

EasternStandard · Today 00:13

So why not ask Labour to do it rather than block it? Since they are actually in power. Bizarrely blind loyalty.

It’s getting circular, but I think when a government was in power for 3 terms, they had the time to do it. But it seems no inclination except to submit it in their last month of
power.

It’s very loyal of you to defend 3 terms of inaction.

BananaPeels · Today 00:17

nomas · Today 00:15

It’s getting circular, but I think when a government was in power for 3 terms, they had the time to do it. But it seems no inclination except to submit it in their last month of
power.

It’s very loyal of you to defend 3 terms of inaction.

Edited

But what has that got to do with today and the debate being had in the here and now ?

EasternStandard · Today 00:17

nomas · Today 00:15

It’s getting circular, but I think when a government was in power for 3 terms, they had the time to do it. But it seems no inclination except to submit it in their last month of
power.

It’s very loyal of you to defend 3 terms of inaction.

Edited

And now Labour are actually in power they shouldn’t block it. I find your stance bizarre.