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To think we have failed our children/daughter as she now doesn’t want any other job just one in my office or working with DH.

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ForJadeEagle · 18/08/2026 21:33

Our daughter doesn’t want to go to her firm choice anymore. Instead, she wants to take a gap year and reapply to university, but she doesn’t want to get a job unless it’s at my workplace.

Our daughter did incredibly well in her Alevels 4 A stars. She worked incredibly hard for those grades and had been set to go to Durham to study Law. Cambridge was always her ultimate university, but she never applied due to the applications having to be in so early for Oxford and Cambridge compared to the other unis. Now that she has achieved these grades, she wants to take a gap year and apply.

I’ve told her that she cannot simply spend the year working for me. I want her to get some proper, real-world work experience. Almost all of her work experience so far has been with family members or friends of my husband. She’s never had a customer service job or anything similar.

I’m a solicitor and run my own business. My office is in the town centre of our town. It’s not a huge law firm or a Magic Circle firm I have fewer than 20 solicitors working for me. I have allowed her to “work for me” for a while now, and she genuinely enjoys it. In some ways, she’s practically a paralegal. She has been working alongside and shadowing the paralegals for around two years and does a lot of the filing and general office work.

But I would really like her to have a normal job for an 18 year old. Go and work in a supermarket, a café, retail anything like that. Even if she only did it for six months, I think she needs to experience what that kind of work is actually like.

I think we’ve given her far too much privilege, and now we’re seeing the consequences of that. She says that if I won’t let her work in my office for the year, then her dad will let her work with him. He’s an art dealer and runs auctions in London. It’s not Christie’s or Sothebys nothing like that it’s his own business.

The truth is, I feel like we’ve raised a brat, and I’m incredibly disappointed in myself.
She has never really had to work for anything. I pay her for the work she does at my office, and I even pay her above minimum wage for her age. When it came to her car, I told her she needed to save up for one herself. Instead, she went behind our backs and spoke to my husband’s parents, who then “gifted” her a relatively new Mini under ten years old for her 18th birthday.
I’m just so frustrated. Every time we’ve tried to put a boundary in place, she seems to find a way around it. My parents and my husband’s parents are all in their 80s. They don’t always know what goes on, and they would do absolutely anything for her. I’ve tried talking to my parents about it, but they just say, “She’s young.” My parents have more money than sense at this point. They’re retired and financially comfortable, so they feel they have nothing to lose by giving her things.

And it isn’t just our daughter. Our eldest son is at Edinburgh and is going into his final year. He’s doing very well academically and has had plenty of jobs, but they’ve all been “nice” jobs. I worry that we’ve sheltered both of them too much. I don’t want my children to suffer, but I do think there is value in being 18 or 21 and having to do a job that isn’t particularly glamorous.

Our son is 21 and has mostly worked in places like art galleries. He’s currently doing his internship in London at JPMorgan and his plan is to work there after graduation next summer. If that happens, he may never actually have had what I would consider a “normal” job for someone his age.

I never wanted my children to struggle unnecessarily. I wanted to give them opportunities and make sure they were comfortable. But now I’m wondering whether, in trying so hard to protect them from hardship, we’ve also protected them from learning what hard work, independence and consequences actually feel like.

Have we genuinely failed as parents. DH is much more blasé about it. Doesn’t think they need to work in a supermarket or just a customer service role to know what it is like to work for things.

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NetZeroZealot · 19/08/2026 06:32

Unskilled jobs eg in hospitality (which my DC did) are quite hard to come by now due to the change in rules in NI.
Working for you is going to benefit her subject wise but if she wants to get into Cambridge even with those grades she’s going to need to demonstrate she’s had some broader life experience, or plans to.
Could you suggest she plans at least 3 months of independent travelling, works with you 4 days a week & volunteer s for a charity 1 day a week?
Our local food bank takes lots of volunteers.
Frame it as improving her chances of getting into Cambridge.

ForJadeEagle · 19/08/2026 06:33

NetZeroZealot · 19/08/2026 06:32

Unskilled jobs eg in hospitality (which my DC did) are quite hard to come by now due to the change in rules in NI.
Working for you is going to benefit her subject wise but if she wants to get into Cambridge even with those grades she’s going to need to demonstrate she’s had some broader life experience, or plans to.
Could you suggest she plans at least 3 months of independent travelling, works with you 4 days a week & volunteer s for a charity 1 day a week?
Our local food bank takes lots of volunteers.
Frame it as improving her chances of getting into Cambridge.

I’ve tried to get her to volunteer she has said she doesn’t want to volunteer because it’s her time and her father told her a while back “never work for free” I suppose we are both to blame for her attitude.

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McSpoot · 19/08/2026 06:35

ForJadeEagle · 19/08/2026 06:31

This. I just want her to get real world experience. Working for me is different to working for someone else

But your son has done this (worked for people other than you/family) and it still isn't enough for you. So, it seems that this statement isn't wholly true.

Twiglets1 · 19/08/2026 06:35

Talk about first world problems.

ForJadeEagle · 19/08/2026 06:35

Calendulaaria · 18/08/2026 22:34

Why are you so angry/resentful? Both your children have a work ethic, it's not like they are stoners, sitting at home on video games, not wanting to work. There's something underneath all this that is entirely from you, nothing to do with either child.

Maybe it’s all just entirely me.

Regardless It would be great for my children to see volunteering as a good thing etc instead of thinking and saying what do I get out of that.

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curious79 · 19/08/2026 06:36

Everything has come to her on a plate. Why would she go and work in a supermarket if she can work in your firm or your husband‘s? Why would she work hard to get a car if she knows she can get grandma to give her one?

NetZeroZealot · 19/08/2026 06:37

She must have gone to a good school to get grades like that. Did they not do D of E or similar to help build resilience?

Treesandflower · 19/08/2026 06:37

Why not offer her three days work on the proviso she volunteers for one/two days a week? This would enhance her CV and show she can speak to people from a variety of backgrounds etc.

Maybe one day at a food bank.
One day elsewhere, maybe signposting people to information they need - citizens advice (not sure they would take her for one year) or volunteer at a school helping readers etc.

If she was a nice kid I’d say just let her work at yours but offer her what she wants to do but only if she volunteers too.

ForJadeEagle · 19/08/2026 06:38

McSpoot · 19/08/2026 06:35

But your son has done this (worked for people other than you/family) and it still isn't enough for you. So, it seems that this statement isn't wholly true.

The post is mainly about my daughter. My son has done well and we are very proud of him sometimes the attitude needs to dial down but he’s surrounded by very similar people to him even in his internship. It’s not as though JPM take on the average person somehow 5 of his friends from school (who attend different unis) are in the same internship different divisions but same company.

There’s been things he has said previously that are just wrong but that’s mine and my husbands fault for not instilling better values.

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MarthaLovesLaughing · 19/08/2026 06:39

ForJadeEagle · 19/08/2026 06:33

I’ve tried to get her to volunteer she has said she doesn’t want to volunteer because it’s her time and her father told her a while back “never work for free” I suppose we are both to blame for her attitude.

This is very concerning imo. I'm not bothered that she has an easy time working for you or her Dad. I'm bothered that she (and the whole family?) don't have enough kindness, empathy and understanding to help others for free.

There are so many charities which need volunteers

If none of you will show kindness then there's your issue. And YES. This is your fault. Lead by example

ForJadeEagle · 19/08/2026 06:41

lightseeker · 18/08/2026 22:43

Don't be silly OP. Of course it's not the case that everyone has to work in supermarkets!

If your DD wants to apply to Oxbridge, then what do you think it's going to get her in - a placement in a law company? Or shelf stacking in Tesco? You sound very curmudgeonly for no reason. Are you envious of your own child?

Yes I guess I’m envious of my child, so privileged she gets upset at the thought of even volunteering one day a week. To the point that the school has to contact us based on the things she has previously said.

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ForJadeEagle · 19/08/2026 06:42

MarthaLovesLaughing · 19/08/2026 06:39

This is very concerning imo. I'm not bothered that she has an easy time working for you or her Dad. I'm bothered that she (and the whole family?) don't have enough kindness, empathy and understanding to help others for free.

There are so many charities which need volunteers

If none of you will show kindness then there's your issue. And YES. This is your fault. Lead by example

I do volunteer most weekends. DH would “never work for free” as he puts it. I do agree it’s our fault as parents.

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AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 19/08/2026 06:43

@ForJadeEagle

She and you would get much more"real life" experience volunteering some of you time instead of thinking your DD needs a "low pay job" to be a better person.

Edited: I had this window open for a while, so had missed all of these last posts by the OP. Your DH sounds like a large part of the problem. His "view" on never working for free sounds highly snobbish, snotty and cruel.
Not sure what to tell you. Sounds like being very well off has not instilled many decent qualities in your family (except you?).

Lentilcakes · 19/08/2026 06:44

Working in a solicitors and having an internship at JPMorgan will be much better for their career prospects when they graduate so i wouldn’t get hung up on that. The job market is brutal.

DS has just graduated and we arranged a really good (but short) work experience for him through a friend of ours where he’ll meet industry experts. He never would’ve got that in a million years without the contact. DD is still working customer service post-uni but in a sector she’s really passionate about so I’m hoping that will be her ‘career’ - it’s niche so she is now sought after in that industry. She could go in to management eventually- she’s got good ideas (because she’s clever and working way below her abilities atm - it’s her choice though).

its the grandparents re the car. I’d be annoyed about

ForJadeEagle · 19/08/2026 06:48

HewasH2O · 18/08/2026 22:59

Genuine Q. Do either of you actually need an 18 year old employee who will need to be trained and supervised for 12 months? Presumably you wouldn't be doing the training & supervision yourself, so that falls on someone else in your team & you're picking up the tab.

She spends quite a bit of time also shadowing me and watching what I do not exactly exciting. Now she’s able to do some tasks for us unsupervised, she’s not handling cases on her own she’s not a solicitor but sometimes other solicitors ask for her to shadow them etc no one is being forced to look after my daughter.

The paralegals are young early 20s it’s an apprenticeship we pay for them to study law at university whilst working for us and earning money in turn coming out of university with no debt as the fees are paid by us.

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MandemChickenShop · 19/08/2026 06:49

AI origin story for Pulps 'Common People'.

Load of cap.

ForJadeEagle · 19/08/2026 06:50

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 19/08/2026 06:43

@ForJadeEagle

She and you would get much more"real life" experience volunteering some of you time instead of thinking your DD needs a "low pay job" to be a better person.

Edited: I had this window open for a while, so had missed all of these last posts by the OP. Your DH sounds like a large part of the problem. His "view" on never working for free sounds highly snobbish, snotty and cruel.
Not sure what to tell you. Sounds like being very well off has not instilled many decent qualities in your family (except you?).

Edited

I don’t think she needs a low paid job to be a better person but I do believe she needs varied experience and or volunteering which I believe would help.

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MarilynMerlot · 19/08/2026 06:57

Why have the school contacted you about things shes said?

AdjectiveColourNoun · 19/08/2026 06:58

The job thing is a bit of a red herring. You are worried about her character and a random job isn’t going to change that. And very likely an Oxbridge degree and law career will only reinforce her sense of entitlement which I assume is at the root of her character. And I doubt JPM will do much better for your son in that regard. They will be surrounded by people like them. I think you just have to make peace with it.

Butchyrestingface · 19/08/2026 07:01

ForJadeEagle · 19/08/2026 06:29

Okay if that’s your take on it. I had 5 miscarriages when we were trying for children, we had to go through the IVF route and that wasn’t always successful. It was a journey and a half for us to even have children. I very much love my children and they know it perhaps we’ve just spoilt them. I’m not going to go into the things she’s said or done but even her school got touch in regards to some stuff she has previously said.

I'm sorry about what you experienced and the difficulties in having children - that was very sad. But I didn't suggest for a second that you didn't love your children, rather that you don't like your daughter. That has come across strongly to me in your initial post and subsequent ones.

If you don't go into the things you say she's said or done, then you are painting a very partial picture of her - one that doesn't really make sense in light of your initial post. She seems to have done very little wrong but nevertheless you aren't happy with her and how she's turning out. That doesn't bode well for your future relationship.

Treesandflower · 19/08/2026 07:02

Did she not do a Duke of Edinburgh at school? Could she do silver now? (She is unlikely to have enough time to do gold before uni).

What about volunteering in a sport or hobby she is skilled at?

My son is volunteering at a sport for his bronze which starts next month, but he (and his younger siblings) train lower grades at a martial art unpaid. Although they not paid with money (they are pre teen), they are rewarded - communication skills, correcting adults and kids when they make a mistake, explaining clearly and concisely, the reward of watching others improve, giving feedback that is useful and in a manner where it is taken on board, testing in exams. They are respected amongst peers and have a great friendship group there. The lower grades adults ask them questions and they are asked to demonstrate to the class. They go an hour early to assist the youngest children once a week.

Can your husband genuinely not see this as a great skill set for kids? It’s unpaid so should they refuse? Where else would a child be able to stand and give feed back (with confidence) to adults and older kids? The adults have to take the kids years of experience on board because they are more skilled.

As a parent it keeps them fit, helps confidence, makes them proud of the years of training time they have put in. It meant at 7/8/9 they were training adults. And they have a group of friends outside of school, this could make all the difference if they have a rubbish month at school.

I can’t imagine saying no don’t do it unless the instructor pays you. I encouraged them to take the opportunity as not everyone is given it. It’s just a bit odd that your husband cannot see the benefit of volunteering.

SallyRabbit · 19/08/2026 07:02

Your children are both doing well academically, both have ambition and both want to work in addition to that. I find it quite telling that you are also cross about your son working in art galleries and feel that’s somehow bad.

It’s as if you think they need to struggle to become full adults. But there will be enough struggles with studies, with going for ambitious degrees and internships etc. There’s no unique virtue in the struggle of working in more customer-facing jobs.

Truthfully, and this is a bit harsher than I try to be on here so I am sorry, your first post came across as quite weird, quite petty and quite resentful of your impressive kids.

Butchyrestingface · 19/08/2026 07:03

ForJadeEagle · 19/08/2026 06:42

I do volunteer most weekends. DH would “never work for free” as he puts it. I do agree it’s our fault as parents.

So she's simply following the example set by her father?

Then the issue is surely with him, not your teenage daughter.

BananaPeels · 19/08/2026 07:07

This is a joke thread right?

you are complaining as your highly motivated, hard working and exceedingly academic daughter wants to work in a law firm in a job she enjoys and is good at rather than volunteer and work in a cafe? (Nothing wrong with those things but defo reads a bit ‘common people’ by pulp)

PancakeCloud · 19/08/2026 07:15

I’m confused as to why she didn’t apply for her dream university just because the deadline was slightly earlier tbh.

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