AIBU? Russia threaten UK

[mumlearningtorun]

Am I being overdramatic about the new breaking news I’ve just seen about Russia threatening UK after use of drones. I’m super scared and have anxiety, can someone somewhat reassure me? Has these headlines happened before??

That's easy. We abandon the second largest country in Europe to its fate, and then wonder why an emboldened Russia is now intent on annexing the rest of the ex-USSR and enslaving its people.

If we gift them Ukraine, with its highly advanced manufacturing capabilities and huge mineral and agricultural sectors, as well as land borders with other ex-USSR states why wouldn't they? Plenty of slaves too.

I didn’t give an opinion about the boat people - I’m just pointing out the madness of going out of our way to roll out the red carpet for ‘refugees’ who can pop home for a bit (showing that they are neither poor nor scared) just because they are white women and children.

Well it’s quite easy? Some areas are under a constant bombardment and unsafe, some aren’t but aren’t safe to live. Keeping connections at home is a brilliant way to show that these people are true refugees, and will go home when the war is over.

What a lovely sentiment let’s hope other countries don’t share it if the UK were ever to be attacked

Not all Ukrainians living in the UK are refugees, neither are they all poor 🙄

I imagine they are quite scared though, if not for themselves then for family, friends still living there.

Nobody around me died though. People weren't dropping dead in the street here like they were in China on the news.

I thought they were. I try and limit my time on both these days or I get nothing done.

You asked what would have happened without news, I assumed you meant any news.

You don't need news 24/7 to know what is happening in the world but I imagine you will read at least some.

I'd be surprised if anyone over 50 really cares ?

We've been here, done this, and got the T-Shirt.

Remember when Putin said the UK was "for it" if we helped Ukraine in 2022. And 2023. And 2024. And 2025.

Some may see a pattern here.

Fuck Putin. Fuck Russia. And for good measure, fuck Trump and fuck the US.

(Other than supporting a soverign nation against aggression being the right thing to do)
The underlying reason for supporting Ukraine is that in 1994 they disarmed their nuclear arsenal under guarantee by three nations - Russia, the US and the UK

Not to mention murders on our streets for decades of both Russian/soviet and British citizens, novichock and polonium trails across London and Salisbury
A few arsons and parcel bombs for good measure

Yes it's amazing how it filters through. I do see the headlines in Lidl when I go in to shop but they are usually trying to inflame hatred or fear in one way or another and it's usually stuff that never happens.

Also I noticed once I stopped searching news online my youtube algorithm really pushed news stories at me.

Russia threatens everyone but surely you should be reassured they failed to win much in Ukraine, even with all their oil money and tens of thousands of people thrown in? Ukraine, a country everyone in the West said would be defeated in a few months after the invasion?

Russia is brutal, nasty and doesn't give a shit about its own people. They are, I guess, scary as they have nuclear capacity. But they are also disorganized, backwards, corrupt and inept.

The French, Italians , Swiss, Belgians and Germans are all arms manufacturers .

Does that mean we can legitimately invade Iran, North Korea and China? If we wanted to…

Actually Poland would be in there straight away, followed by Finland, because they are next in the firing line. Poland is arming and Donald Tusk was recently talking about becoming the largest army in Europe.

Germany might then prevaricate and Britain will sit on its hands if it might upset Trump, and anyway it costs money and anyway anyway our politicians have run the armed forces down, but the Swedes and Danes will back the Finns out of sense and a basic sense of decency and eventually Britain will be shamed into helping Poland. France might have to kick a few British butts first but we’d get there. We’re now - I hope - the country you can at least rely on to do the right thing when we have no other choice.

Bloody hell Im ashamed of Britain at times.

They're chatting shit, as usual. Pay them no mind

No one in the West said Ukraine would be defeated a few months after invasion. Literally no serious commentator on geopolitics or military matters thought this. Only the Russians said that - a few days, then a few weeks, then a few months, now we are up to a few years…

Yep. The Poles and the Finns are the next line of defence. While we worry whether the money spent on defending the realm might be better spent on NEETs.

I think there are still a lot of people in the UK who, like in the 1930s, live on fantasy island when it comes to geopolitics. Is it younger people? I can’t imagine anyone who was an adult during the Cold War, and especially the 80s, thinks like this.

And if we had that mentality at the beginning of WW2?

I used to think we should have many more referenda, like Switzerland. Then the Brexit referendum proved to be a triumph of emotion over logic and I realised that whatever Michael Gove says, this country does need experts.

I used to think we should have many more referenda

They are also targeted by countries like Russia who merrily spread disinformation to cause unrest.

I do hope this leads to a vote of no confidence in Burnham. He has no mandate to drag us into a war.

What war is he dragging us into?

@moonraker0
Because Europe needs independent Ukraine for safety. Putin is a lunatic with ambition of having imperial Russia. Something like USSR 2.0. When he took over Crimea, the West did nothing apart from issuing some sanctions. So he thought the rest of Ukraine was a fair game. If he is let to have Ukraine, he is not going to stop there.

At the start of the Russian invasion, as a massive line of tanks advanced on Kyiv, I remember our TV newsreaders talking as though there would be a coup within a matter of days. I know that Zelensky has good security, but I remember fearing the worst for him as he refused an offer to evacuate him from the country. Say what you will about him, but he has more bravery in his little finger than Putin has in his whole body.