Who is actually “for” Meta glasses (“pervert glasses”)?

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I’m not sure if AIBU is the right place for this question, but I am really, desperately curious to know if there is any one out there who thinks that these are a good idea? Or indeed, not a privacy concern for other unconsenting people?

So on that basis:

YABU - what is your actual problem? There’s nothing wrong with them and I have a pair/would buy them
YANBU - legitimate question – I find them creepy AF

Yes this is exactly the issue - the aim is to normalise constant filming without consent.

The footage is all sent to Meta who then own it.

We are being filmed all the time. CCTV is everywhere.

@ISpyNoPlumPie you have to activate the recording function, it’s easy to use the glasses without recording being on.

They would be amazing for joggers too. I was bitten by a dog whilst jogging earlier this year. I have had dogs jump on me. Just being barked at by an off lead large dog is scary.

CCTV is regulated.

What is happening to young women with Meta glasses-wearers is not happening with CCTV.

DH and I both have a pair. They’ve come in really handy for taking pictures while out biking/skating with no phone, we both use them to watch things or listen to audiobooks while doing other tasks. I can see how they could be misused but then again you can also buy tiny remote control cameras people wouldn’t notice so what is the difference.

Can you ‘accidentally’ step on them one day? Oops!

Bravo!

I mean, why do we make guns and zombie knives illegal? They’ll be handy for skiing too. Just imagine how fast you’ll move to the front of the lift queue!

I see no reason why a fine person such as yourself should go without just because of a few crims.

A visually impaired friend has a pair, she can now do so much more independently like shopping etc, it also means if there is an issue on public transport etc its easier than trying to use her phone, especially in a normal environment to find a member of staff, or just additional travel information. It also helps her at work as she finds it works better than her screen reader to identify what she needs etc.

New journeys are much easier as her glassee can see when its genuinely time to turn left, rather than her phone telling her to turn now when in reality it can be a good 10-20m too early.

These are an extraordinary breakthrough for blind people. I didn’t even know about the filming option, only that my father who has recently lost his sight, just got some and it could potentially open up whole new avenues for independence. I’d suggest removing the filming option before throwing out the baby with the bath water. My father is simply excited about the possibility of being able to read letters and labels in his cupboards without assistance.

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I’ve had a pair for over a year now and I love them (and am definitely not a pervert!) they are prescription and transition lenses and I mostly use them to listen to music on when out for a walk / run. I also love making hands free calls. I do take photos / videos which I would do normally on a phone anyway (like everyone else) and you can’t cover up the lens to stop people seeing the light as the glasses won’t let you film / take photos.

I'm interested in them to help with my hearing impairment.

Sorry this is off topic but I’m too curious. I’m not a dog walker admittedly but I have three dogs in my household, and walk and additional two, every day so I often get mistaken for one. The dogs range from tiny and cute to big and ‘scary’ (and I must look ridiculous) but every interaction with the public is always pleasant. I don’t live in a naice area or anything. Occasionally an off lead dog will run up to greet us but as none of mine are reactive and Cujo isn’t roaming about it’s always fine.

How many issues are you having with the public to have to consider filming it?!

I went to the opticians 2 weeks ago to choose my new glasses. The assistant (f) was showing/gushing about her black, thick rimmed, meta ones and was trying to convince me. I said why would I want them, she said "you can film with them" 😮
Why? Jist why???

They already did. Covering the light. Removing it etc.

Meta had to install an update so the glasses can't record with the light removed. Dunno if they can do that with it just being covered.

Not really. The phone has to be somewhere it can see you, therefore you will be able to see the phone. Are you really that gullable?

They dont need video recording capability for that.

I understand the privacy concerns around Meta glasses, but calling someone “pretty grim” for using them is completely uncalled for. They have plenty of uses beyond filming. My DD’s have been able to use them for translation, directions, information about where you they are, accessibility and so on. And if you’ve travelled around Asia, you’ll know people are constantly taking photos and videos in public. Perhaps get out and see a bit more of the world before having such a narrow, stubborn view.

So if someone is holding there phone how do you know what theyre doing on it? I am typing right now and could quite easily have my camera open pretending to write something. I know someone who has a privacy case, cant see what theyre doing stood next to them.... are you really that gullible?

Like a lot of technology, these types of glasses have their benefits and their concerns. Neither law or culture has really caught up on either.

I have concerns around all the data being in the hands of US companies which brings them under different US laws, and out of control of our own.

I also have concerns it would bring hostility towards anyone wearing glasses that are remotely like the meta glasses, and that it will cause those using them for disability-related accessibility needs more anguish than it already is. I can the potential of a demand of these types of glasses without the recording function if the accessibility features can work without that.

There are also issues that there are public places that do not allow filming, and there have been issues with these glasses, with people claiming to forget - some who are likely honest, some who aren't, but the staff having to deal with it are often not getting any support.

I've received emails at work around keeping an eye out for these glasses and how we have to ensure they aren't recording with no other support for customer-facing staff. We have signs about no filming or audio recordings at all in the building, it's procedure for all phones to be off and away in certain parts, but staff have so much else to do, checking every person's glasses is not going to work, just like not all phones can be checked already - staff just keep an eye out for certain behaviours that could be a sign of people recording. That's going to be harder with these glasses.

Thankfully I've not yet had to deal with it, but I know on nearby sites there have been multiple issues including with glasses found to be recording without any perceivable light. One case I know was significant enough that police were involved, the recording reviewed, and it turned out they had been filming everywhere in the building including in the toilets and in court hearings, as well as in nearby shops (it was noted that other people's card numbers had been visible when the glasses are supposedly meant to blur that type of thing on recordings, I've no idea). This is what sparked emails across the region.

Close family member is blind. I’m all for them.

My friend who is partially sighted has them.
They read the menu to her
They tell her what display signs say - particularly useful at train stations or airports.
They take amazing photos.
They've enhanced her life

No they aren’t

It’s terrifying that you and so many others are of this mindset. It might be legal, but it’s morally reprehensible that stepping outside your front door is seen as consent to have your image broadcast to anyone in the world, for any purpose, forever, by any twat who is too useless to get a proper job and not talented enough to make a name for themselves in any other way. How is that not grim as fuck? It’s bad enough that the entire world seems to have ring doorbells so you can’t turn your kitchen light on at 3am without the neighbours opposite having a record of it, but that you can’t give a seemingly random man directions without worrying that he’s going to do something horrible with your image is just unacceptable.