WIBU to call out a man for using ladies loo?

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Yesterday in a motorway service station, a man used the ladies’ disabled/baby change loo. This was through the entryway to the ladies, but off to the right and separate to the main area of toilets on the left. I saw a lady with 2 young children try to challenge him as he went in, but he ignored her. When he came out, I asked why he had used the ladies - to which he (very red in the face) argued that it was separate and he didn’t go into the ladies. He definitely did! Another lady who witnessed this then went and checked and said to me that the toilet is separate, however this doesn’t excuse a man going past the ladies sign and into the designated ladies area. There was a separate, clearly signposted, male disabled/baby change behind the male toilets entryway. WIBU?

Good for you. You know he's trying to catch a glimpse into the actual ladies and this is a way of doing it.

Sick cunt

I agree! Pervert 😡

Was he pretending to be a woman?

It’s an entirely separate and self contained cubicle so what’s the issue? He didn’t actually go into or pass anything except the ladies sign - he didn’t see any women using the toilets and seems to just have used the toilet and then left… your OP makes no mention of pervy behaviour, lingering, looking or comments.

If it was roles reversed and a woman used the disabled toilet technically in the gents nobody would care.

This.

Do you mean to say there was also a disabled access loo for men? If not, and he needed such a facility, he had little choice but to find his way to the Ladies’ one.
Baby changing rooms should not be within the Ladies’ area anyway. Men do cart infants around, and need to change nappies when out and about.

Not that I’m an apologist of men being within our loo spaces, not at all. But in this case, as it stands, any ill intentions have not been established by OP. .

So within the ladies area (past the ladies sign) there was a separate disabled and baby change area, and the same on the men's side?
This is an unusual set up, not one that I have ever seen. It doubles the cost of providing these facilities.
Most baby change areas and accessible toilets are unisex and found in between the men's and women's.

For baby changing, I think a unisex, family friendly set up is the way to go, so any parents and children combination of any sex can use them.

I imagine disabled women would quite like having an accessible toilet just for women - but again they might need helpers who could be of either sex, so it should be in a unisex area.

To answer your question - you were right to challenge him.

No you don’t know that. He saw where the disabled toilets where and went in. He didn’t go into the ladies at all

They were in the men’s as well. He chose to use the women’s, walking past the women’s sign to do it.

He wasn't a woman and didn't have a baby so he must have had a disability. If the equivalent facility in the men's side was in use I wouldn't have a problem with him using the one on the ladies side, as it was completely separate to the main block of loos.

He may have needed to use the loo urgently, maybe had an invisible disability and the gents loos were all busy. If this was the case, no wonder the poor chap was embarassed.

I think there is something strange about a man walking past the “Women’s“ signage to enter the toilet area designated for women.

If he was on his own and walking unaided he probably had the mobility to use a cubicle on the men’s side. It seems unlikely that the male disabled cubicle and all the male standard cubicles were occupied.

Also, when challenged he only argued that the women’s disabled cubicle was separate from the main women’s section. If he genuinely had been forced into the woman’s side because there was no cubicle available to him a more normal response would be to apologise to the several women he had clearly made uncomfortable.

A) i am a man b). To go into any disabled loo in the circumstances the op described you have to pass a large fuck off sign of a woman. My dad was illiterate but never once used the ladies

Why are you defending the dirty perv...there are similar disabled loos clearly signposted in the men's?

Does it matter?

No adult male makes that mistake. But you know that

Really?

Never seen that happen and I am 61 years old with DH with IBS

There were disabled and baby change facilities signposted in the men’s toilet area.

He was not pretending to be a woman or in any way appeared to be feminine. Just a young 20-something bloke who walked past the big sign of a lady in a dress and into the ladies’ facilities, ignoring a lady who was challenging him as he did so.

I didn’t see him ogling or anything but I wasn’t watching, just waiting outside and challenged him as I saw him leave.

I would want to definitely say something. Though I suppose it would depend on how scary looking the man was. I suppose it would be better to say something that actually stopped them from going in, rather than question them on the way out.

Yes, her OP says that. He should have gone in the men’s area and used the men’s disabled loo. He had no right to be in the ladies area at all.

Well done, OP.

Entitled male behaviour - which needs stamping on each and every time.

Thing is..the government now want transmen to go into ladies bathrooms so theres the possibility that this person was trans. I wouldnt attack anyone going into the loo who appears to just be using the loo. Its strange of you if im honest

Yes he did. OP says there was a disabled loo in each set of toilets. He should have gone into the men’s area and used the men’s disabled loo. He was challenged by a woman who told him it was the ladies loo and he ignored her.

I agree he shouldn’t have been there but last year I was in an ‘emergency’ situation and as I went to go to the women’s the cleaner said ‘there’s the worst smell you’ll honestly vomit in there, don’t go in’ and closed it, person in disabled so I went into the men’s . As I came out I apologised to a man on the way in telling him it had been an emergency. Nobody called me a pervert (you lost me at pervert op- people can call people out but don’t assume they’re the lowest scum of the earth)

If he was using them because the men’s was busy then he could easily have said that!
Nope this is just good old fashioned male entitlement at best, voyeurism at worst.

I'm really struggling to picture the set-up here so I can't really say.

Someone checked and was told by the staff that the disabled loo was separate to the ladies? So if he'd asked staff for the disabled they'd have directed him there?

What is the ladies 'area'- like a vestibule before you got into the ladies or actually in the ladies where the sinks are?

I don't want men in the women's toilets at all, but this sounds like a weird design.

I have been in a service station before where the only disabled toilet was past the (open) entrance to the ladies toilets. It was less than ideal but it was the only way he could access the toilet