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BBQ party tonight

215 replies

Grumpynan · Today 08:29

We have planned a family get together this evening with a charcoal bbq in the garden. I hasten to add it’s a proper one not disposable.

should we still go ahead, or should I play save and cook the food indoors, what’s everyone else doing,

I mean, it stresses disposable bbq, says nothing about kettle ones in a garden. But I don’t want to cause any problems, and tbh we have a lot of trees around us and I’m a little worried, DH says I’m being silly but ?

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Roaring111111 · Today 10:06

BakedPotatoBeansCheeseColeslaw · Today 10:02

You sound like the sort of person who would invite twelve people round during Covid but say it was okay because you sitting in two separate groups of 6 (back then that was a thing). Yes that rule was a bit bonkers but it was indicative of a wider disdain for doing anything that inconvenienced you in favour of the greater good.

covid was obviously a shit show - but we don’t need people to be finding reasons to do things that are obviously unsafe under the guise of it’s not been explicitly banned. Use your brain.

This is what I’m talking about - ‘yes, that rule was bonkers’. And yet people policed themselves and neighbours with passionate zeal, despite it protecting no one at all.

GoldenSandy · Today 10:07

HelpMeGetThrough · Today 10:05

I better not have a fag in the back garden. Neighbours could end up having a nervous breakdown.

To be fair you probably shouldn't.

Skinnysaluki · Today 10:07

DyslexicPoster · Today 10:01

Does the alert seriously expand to BBQ in your own garden? That's not how I read it, neither did I take the bbc coverage that way.

We rarely do bbq but it's gas. But got no more planned imminently. Next door do a bbq every Sunday without fail.

I guess there is always three camps on government imposed restriction in times of crisis.

Follow the guidelines

Add extra restrictions on top of your own invention.

Decide they don't apply to you at all.

So much for the "I'd never follow another lockdown!" Type policy.

Personally we have decided to be extra cautious and have disconnected the gas and electricity at mains and just eating dried pasta ( no salad as no fridge). Dh pointed out the car has a combustion engine which technically is a spark outside ( the worse news ever) so will be walking the 30 mile round trip to work on foot come Monday.

You’re not funny.
The heathland near to me burnt to cinders. All the wildlife, the habitats, the the trees- gone and never to grow back.

MolkosTeenageAngst · Today 10:07

Poppy61 · Today 09:57

I know we have to be very careful at the moment and I agree with it, but if you go to Oz, there are permanent bbqs everywhere in public places. How do they manage it??? Mind you, they are accustomed to, and respectful of the heat, prepared for it, and have been brought up not to be twats in the heat.

They also have different plants and terrain to UK in many of the hottest areas, plants which have evolved to live in hot, dry climates don’t dry out as quickly in heat and hold water during periods of drought. A big issue in the uk is so many plants and especially the grass, which is everywhere, are not designed for hot climates, they don’t hold water well within their cells and they have dried out to basically be straw which can very easily be ignited.

Also, Australia has had some pretty horrific wild fires in past years too!

HelpMeGetThrough · Today 10:08

GoldenSandy · Today 10:07

To be fair you probably shouldn't.

Bit too late for that.

Cloudysky81 · Today 10:08

Poppy61 · Today 09:57

I know we have to be very careful at the moment and I agree with it, but if you go to Oz, there are permanent bbqs everywhere in public places. How do they manage it??? Mind you, they are accustomed to, and respectful of the heat, prepared for it, and have been brought up not to be twats in the heat.

Exactly we used to live in rural Victoria and they would still have BBQs in fire season they just manage them safely.

Mumsnet turns into people trying to outdo each other with how fire safe they are being.
A gas BBQ on a patio with clear zone around it, is perfectly safe.
Nothing is zero risk, cooking on your hob inside carries some risk, why don’t we all eat cold food for the next few weeks.

The government guidance does not ban BBQs at home, it just says to not leave them unattended. I can’t imagine many people do that anyway.

EarthSight · Today 10:08

I'd say the risk of a fire happening is far higher from people simply tossing cigarette stubs away than it is from garden BBQs, but are they banning people from smoking everywhere, even in their own gardens?

However, as people have pointed out, continuing with your barbecue may not cast you in a good light with your neighbours, and you might want to consider that if something did go wrong, it'll probably stretch a fire service that is already exhausted in some areas.

dippy567 · Today 10:09

The alert says disposable bbqs, which people tend to put directly on the ground and don't both discarding properly. As long as youre careful a normal bbq will be fine.

UrbanFan · Today 10:12

I'm still stunned by the stupidity of people. Every day. 🙁

GreenCandleWax · Today 10:12

hamnish · Today 08:33

It’s been a long, hot week, full of shit news, and maybe I’m just tired, but for one weekend, can’t people just do what they’ve been asked to do, for the sake of the fire service and everyone around them?

I can't believe that 44% on here think its OK to light an outdoor BBQ right now. Do any of you watch the news and see the devastation to land and houses, eg in Stourbridge yesterday? All those houses in flames, completely destroyed.

IStillHearTheWaves · Today 10:13

I haven't risked a BBQ (proper one) in weeks. One stray spark could be a disaster. It's shame because I love a BBQ in summer, but it's just not worth the risk IMO.

GoldenSandy · Today 10:13

DyslexicPoster · Today 10:01

Does the alert seriously expand to BBQ in your own garden? That's not how I read it, neither did I take the bbc coverage that way.

We rarely do bbq but it's gas. But got no more planned imminently. Next door do a bbq every Sunday without fail.

I guess there is always three camps on government imposed restriction in times of crisis.

Follow the guidelines

Add extra restrictions on top of your own invention.

Decide they don't apply to you at all.

So much for the "I'd never follow another lockdown!" Type policy.

Personally we have decided to be extra cautious and have disconnected the gas and electricity at mains and just eating dried pasta ( no salad as no fridge). Dh pointed out the car has a combustion engine which technically is a spark outside ( the worse news ever) so will be walking the 30 mile round trip to work on foot come Monday.

No, your own garden is the exception. We'll also raise everyone's taxes apart from yours. Don't worry about swimming lessons, your kids won't drown, only other people's, the water knows they're the exception.

MassiveOvaryaction · Today 10:14

sittingonabeach · Today 09:28

How many places don’t have dry vegetation at the moment

Kind of my point I guess.

GoldenSandy · Today 10:14

IStillHearTheWaves · Today 10:13

I haven't risked a BBQ (proper one) in weeks. One stray spark could be a disaster. It's shame because I love a BBQ in summer, but it's just not worth the risk IMO.

And incredibly you didn't need someone to tell you! I wish everyone had common sense.

IStillHearTheWaves · Today 10:14

I actually haven't smelt any either, which is highly unusual, so other people are obviously being cautious too this summer and for good reason.

MiceSpiders · Today 10:15

NotMajorTom · Today 10:02

For me it’s about risk vs reward

the risk is that yours, and your neighbours houses go up in flames and that risk is heightened at the moment

the reward is that you get a bbq with food cooked outdoors rather than indoors.

i think the risk far outweighs the reward and anyone who can’t see that is part of the problem

Every time you step out of your house there is a risk and your do that for all kinds of non essential reasons. There is guidance about how to make home BBQs safer, if the government wanted to they would've included all BBQs in the alert and not issued the additional safety guidance. You are free to add extra restrictions to your life, but following the government issued guidance isn't seen as an issue outside of Mumsnet

dtsmum · Today 10:17

We planned to have a BBQ tomorrow. This was planned about a month ago.
I'd already told DH that I'm cooking the food indoors. Our garden isn't huge and what little grass we have is straw. DH would be at the BBQ the whole time, but it's not worth the risk as far as I'm concerned.
We have a huge George foreman that we'll take outside for the burgers, but other than that it will all go in the oven.

FaceIt · Today 10:19

Why would you risk it.

Everything is a tinderbox.

BakedPotatoBeansCheeseColeslaw · Today 10:19

Roaring111111 · Today 10:06

This is what I’m talking about - ‘yes, that rule was bonkers’. And yet people policed themselves and neighbours with passionate zeal, despite it protecting no one at all.

You’re missing the point - it’s not about what we are “allowed” to do. It’s about what is morally right to do under the circumstances.

No one needs to have a bbq - especially when you could host the same event using your oven or by doing a buffet.

It’s selfish and unnecessary but more than that it is also incredibly stupid as the person whose house you are most likely to set fire to, is your own.

Sahara123 · Today 10:19

Livelovebehappy · Today 08:59

I dont think for a minute many people will take any notice of the ban on bbqs or fireworks/fires. Where i live its Asian wedding season. And yep. Fireworks going off last night from 9 til 1 this morning. No change there. And at least two neighbours on our road had bbqs last night. We live in a self entitled society i'm afraid where people just do their own thing and dont consider the environment they live in...

Fireworks! That’s shocking , I can’t believe people sometimes.

Loulou4022 · Today 10:19

The alert last night didn’t just mention disposable bbq’s it said and I quote “any activity that could start a fire, including disposable bbqs, fire pits…” a charcoal bbq is any activity that could start a fire!! I can’t imagine your neighbours will have a very good evening worrying about the possibility of their houses going up in smoke!
A gas bbq is supposed to be safer however I just wouldn’t bloody risk it! Just cook the food in the house and enjoy your party! No one died from oven cooked food they just might from bbq’d food at the moment!!

Pushmepullu · Today 10:19

We intend to go ahead with our bbq this evening. However, it’s a gas one, it’s on flagstones, there are no trees, grass or combustible materials within 20 feet or so. If any of those scenarios did apply, food would be cooked in the house.

NetZeroZealot · Today 10:20

SinisterGreenMan · Today 10:00

It's not OK.

The problem with your advice is that anyone idiotic enough to be lighting any kind of fire at the moment is unlikely to act sensibly. The very act of lighting the barbecue is fucking stupid.

I can't believe how many idiots on here still think a barbecue is a good idea in the current conditions.

Have they watched the news at all? Have they seen the footage of people's homes and life possessions in flames? Have they seen the swathes of our countryside, including people's livelihoods, animals and natural habitats destroyed by devastating wild fires?

However sensible you might think you are, barbecues are an unnecessary risk at the moment. If you were sensible, you wouldn't need the government to tell you that.

It’s not my advice, it’s government advice. Which states that household barbecues should not be left unattended. Not that they shouldn’t be used at all.

godmum56 · Today 10:21

I am not a blind rule follower and wouldn't care what my neighbours think but I have to say that I couldn't enjoy a barbecue, mine or anyone else's because I'd be worried about what might happen. Gas barbi on a patio in a clear space with water available fine, anything else probably risky IMO. Mine is a Cobb which stands on a table and burns a single briquette I still wouldn't do it

NetZeroZealot · Today 10:21

valadon68 · Today 09:40

From the last 24hrs? Happy to acknowledge what you're saying if true, but can't find this anywhere. Why would they issue guidance that conflicts with the alert?

Yes. Another poster shared the link to it.