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Neurodivergent yawnfest

58 replies

Whattodo1122 · Today 17:50

Is anyone else getting so fed up with people ADHD, autism, mental health oversharing this information and making it an excuse for terrible behaviour?

Several times a week people insist on telling me they are neurodivergent or their family and this is why they can’t do this and that…. Yawn!!! It’s like a negative badge of honour they must share and people really don’t give a monkeys.

My Son has autism and is smashing through life, excelling in all aspects and adjusting to life not making excuses all the time and never tells a soul. I’m so proud of him and it’s just shameful how many people are so excited to have this excuse.

Think people need to adjust and get on with life otherwise things are looking very bleak for them all especially as soon as all the benefits stop.

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venmor · Today 17:53

Good for your son?

You should be truly grateful for the fact he is doing so well, for some people autism is absolutely disabling. As a parent to an autistic child you really should know better. Your attitude stinks of ableism. How dare you?

Potooooooooes · Today 17:53
Hmm
mishgs · Today 17:53

MY DD is autistic, barely leaves the house, hasn’t been in education in 5 years, no specialist school can be found, failed multiple times by the council, needed to ring the CAMHS crisis line last weekend due to suicide ideation. I’m glad your son is smashing life but our lives are hell.

CatamaranViper · Today 17:54

Just because your son is autistic and smashing through life and adjusting doesn't mean everyone with autism can.
It is a spectrum.
For some people it can be very debilitating and can stop them doing certain things and can affect behaviour. I work in a SEN school and no two pupils are the same.

Whattodo1122 · Today 17:55

Octavia64 · Today 17:53

In order to be diagnosed with autism it must have a significant impact on your life.

See eg here for some of the difficulties
https://ppnetwork.org/triad-impairments-autism-myths/

if your child’s autism has literally no impact on their life then he shouldn’t have been diagnosed

He went through an official NHS diagnosis many years ago, adjustments made and proper parenting and he smashing it not using it as an excuse to fail.

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oviraptor21 · Today 17:56

I have a friend like this, relatively recently (about 2 years ago) diagnosed as an adult with ADHD.
Pretty much every conversation now has some reference to the ADHD, either as the main topic, or as a reason why something has proven problematic. I get it, I really do - I have a son with ADHD - but I really don't want it to dominate every conversation we have.

Fiftyandnotsonifty · Today 17:56

Whattodo1122 · Today 17:55

He went through an official NHS diagnosis many years ago, adjustments made and proper parenting and he smashing it not using it as an excuse to fail.

Oh do shut up 🤐

LennyLenses · Today 17:56

Bit early for the Friday night fight thread isn't it?

I mean this will get deleted fairly quickly and I expect you'll go straight back to being banned and having to make another account OP.

MarthaLovesLaughing · Today 17:56

I'll tell you what I'm fucking sick of @Whattodo1122

People minimising and putting down others' problems without knowing ANYthing about their lives or suffering.

venmor · Today 17:57

Whattodo1122 · Today 17:55

He went through an official NHS diagnosis many years ago, adjustments made and proper parenting and he smashing it not using it as an excuse to fail.

Because those of us with children who are more disabled by their condition are obviously shit parents? Come on now

Thepeopleversuswork · Today 17:57

I think you're being deliberately goady, and I think you're hugely under-interpreting the impact of (genuine) neurodiversity on people's lives. It can be debilitating.

I do think there's a grain of truth in what you say about people using neurodiversity (usually without a diagnosis) as an excuse for poor behaviour. It's become endemic as a cover story for antisocial behaviour and social anxiety.

But you have to draw a distinction between genuine, diagnosed neurodiversity and people jumping on a bandwagon as a get-out-of-jail-free card.

Millytante · Today 17:58

venmor · Today 17:53

Good for your son?

You should be truly grateful for the fact he is doing so well, for some people autism is absolutely disabling. As a parent to an autistic child you really should know better. Your attitude stinks of ableism. How dare you?

Edited

Well said. Disgraceful posturing.

havingoneofthosedays · Today 17:58

Couldn’t agree more OP.
Shout it louder!!

timtamsarebetterthanpenguins · Today 17:59

Whattodo1122 · Today 17:55

He went through an official NHS diagnosis many years ago, adjustments made and proper parenting and he smashing it not using it as an excuse to fail.

Are you always so unbearably smug and ignorant?

Whattodo1122 · Today 17:59

I’m sorry for those that truly struggle but so many I meet who got their private diagnosis honestly giving everyone a bad name and meaning empathy and understanding is disappearing so quickly. Feel over diagnosing doesn’t help.

the impact of screens, poor parenting and lack of boundaries all make a huge impact and now putting all of neurodivergence seems to be the easy option rather then looking deeper.

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venmor · Today 17:59

Whattodo1122 · Today 17:59

I’m sorry for those that truly struggle but so many I meet who got their private diagnosis honestly giving everyone a bad name and meaning empathy and understanding is disappearing so quickly. Feel over diagnosing doesn’t help.

the impact of screens, poor parenting and lack of boundaries all make a huge impact and now putting all of neurodivergence seems to be the easy option rather then looking deeper.

Look deeper yourself before spouting such utter shite

Audhdrey · Today 17:59

Maybe your son is doing so well because he was diagnosed through the proper channels at a young age so has had that understanding.

Some of us just felt like outsiders and different, or were constantly told that they were rude or misbehaving when they just didn’t understand why the world didn’t make sense. Maybe they’re now middle aged and only just getting some recognition that it is a condition and not a fault in their personality. And even then ableism still rears its head and abuses them.

ScarlettSarah · Today 18:01

Nice ragebait, OP. Honestly, this post is a crock of shit and anyone who believes the OP is genuine is a fool. Hope it's not making anyone feel bad about themselves though.

MyPeachBiscuit · Today 18:01

YABU. Many higher functioning autistic people struggle, leave school with few qualifications, have a hard time finding and keeping employment and suffer from loneliness and social isolation. Just because some people excel doesn't mean it's not a legitimate disability.

KeepingItAnonForThisOne · Today 18:02

Whattodo1122 · Today 17:50

Is anyone else getting so fed up with people ADHD, autism, mental health oversharing this information and making it an excuse for terrible behaviour?

Several times a week people insist on telling me they are neurodivergent or their family and this is why they can’t do this and that…. Yawn!!! It’s like a negative badge of honour they must share and people really don’t give a monkeys.

My Son has autism and is smashing through life, excelling in all aspects and adjusting to life not making excuses all the time and never tells a soul. I’m so proud of him and it’s just shameful how many people are so excited to have this excuse.

Think people need to adjust and get on with life otherwise things are looking very bleak for them all especially as soon as all the benefits stop.

Some of us are parents to nonverbal or minimal speaking autistic children who sadly are not ‘smashing through life’ and ‘excelling in all aspects’ - how would you feel if this was your child? Would you want people you confide in to tell you to stop moaning?

LotusMandala · Today 18:02

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LennyLenses · Today 18:03

Honestly, I don't know who's worse here.

The goady OP or the posters taking this thread seriously.

Whattodo1122 · Today 18:06

Thepeopleversuswork · Today 17:57

I think you're being deliberately goady, and I think you're hugely under-interpreting the impact of (genuine) neurodiversity on people's lives. It can be debilitating.

I do think there's a grain of truth in what you say about people using neurodiversity (usually without a diagnosis) as an excuse for poor behaviour. It's become endemic as a cover story for antisocial behaviour and social anxiety.

But you have to draw a distinction between genuine, diagnosed neurodiversity and people jumping on a bandwagon as a get-out-of-jail-free card.

I know people housebound with autism and severe social anxiety, it’s heartbreaking and feel these people will become
more isolated then ever as empathy is disappearing because those newly diagnosed are changing people’s perception.
i honestly believe most sit on the spectrum somewhere and people are just using it as an excuse.

people at work suddenly struggle to turn up on time, need to leave early with others covering there workload……they were fine up until that point or had struggles but don’t most

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hattie43 · Today 18:06

I’m amazed every kid on MN has autism. ADHD or some other ism . Never known so much of it .