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Neurodivergent yawnfest

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Whattodo1122 · Today 17:50

Is anyone else getting so fed up with people ADHD, autism, mental health oversharing this information and making it an excuse for terrible behaviour?

Several times a week people insist on telling me they are neurodivergent or their family and this is why they can’t do this and that…. Yawn!!! It’s like a negative badge of honour they must share and people really don’t give a monkeys.

My Son has autism and is smashing through life, excelling in all aspects and adjusting to life not making excuses all the time and never tells a soul. I’m so proud of him and it’s just shameful how many people are so excited to have this excuse.

Think people need to adjust and get on with life otherwise things are looking very bleak for them all especially as soon as all the benefits stop.

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Sparrowsandbudgies · Today 18:27

Whattodo1122 · Today 17:55

He went through an official NHS diagnosis many years ago, adjustments made and proper parenting and he smashing it not using it as an excuse to fail.

You don’t have any idea what it’s like for people with moderate to severe autism. They can’t just mask and fit in. Autism isn’t a super power.

truffleruffle · Today 18:28

Isittimeformynapyet · Today 18:21

It’s such a shame that the services who should be helping those who really need it.

Are you going to finish this sentence later? 😉

Surely you understand that the therapeutic services involved and local council education support services are already stretched to the limit.

Isittimeformynapyet · Today 18:34

I do, but the sentence should include that.

If it were down to each reader to complete sentences on behalf of those who chose to write them where on earth would.

Neuronimo · Today 18:35

Just out of interest what is your excuse for being socially inept and judgmental. Good for you regarding your son. Glad that all is ticktey boo in your life. Many of us do not claim benefits and are busy 'getting on with things'

AutismProf · Today 18:35

You know what, OP? I am an autism professional, quite eminent in my field. Spoken at national and international conferences, shaped local practice, innovated around our understanding of autism etc

So I don't like to boast, but my credentials as an autism parent are Highly informed.

I have an autistic adult child who despite no learning difficulties spent 4 years in a dark room barely getting dressed. Now age 25 they occasionally pet sit for neighbours but are otherwise unable to work, have dreadful social anxiety and don't shower unless forced. They finally started cleaning their teeth regularly this year having gone about 10 years refusing to do so.

I also have another young adult who we think could have received an autism diagnosis; we never pursued it because they never struggled in their environment and as pp have identified this is meant to be part of diagnostic criteria. This DC is "smashing it" - excellent grades at school, at a top uni, treasurer of a club, volunteers for charity in their spare time, on target for a high 1st and likely to get a high paying job. They do identify as autistic and have mostly autistic friends - but don't claim DLA or other benefits, as they don't need them.

The difference is not my parenting, pal. It's the way the autism has affected each. One has severe social anxiety, severe executive functioning needs, and significant sensory and flexible thinking issues, and no motor coordination issues.

The other has significant social awkwardness but not anxiety, excellent executive functioning, mild sensory and flexible thinking issues, and a bunch of motor coordination issues.

So how about you get off your high horse? Celebrate your youngster without deriding others.

Also - my kids grew up pre-screens, just.

LittleMonks11 · Today 18:36

Oh boy. Best of luck OP.

Whattodo1122 · Today 18:37

Thought this post was removed.

let me give some examples to explain friend for many years look an online check list and ticked lots of boxes for adhd for done rtc and diagnosed. She was perfectly well functioning now quit job, on pip and talks endlessly about it….. it frustrates me she classes herself as disabled.

her son perfectly fine at school, mum gets diagnosed now he also diagnosed and plays up at school all the time, no discipline, 24 video games

thats one example

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Naurrr · Today 18:38

especially as soon as all the benefits stop.

What benefits is your kid getting?

x2boys · Today 18:40

truffleruffle · Today 18:28

Surely you understand that the therapeutic services involved and local council education support services are already stretched to the limit.

Yes and generally only those with more severe needs can accsess them anyway .

Whattodo1122 · Today 18:40

Naurrr · Today 18:38

especially as soon as all the benefits stop.

What benefits is your kid getting?

My son none but many others getting DLA and absolutely minted!

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JacknDiane · Today 18:41

Eh, can yoh provide a link to prove benefits are ending @Whattodo1122?

x2boys · Today 18:42

Whattodo1122 · Today 18:37

Thought this post was removed.

let me give some examples to explain friend for many years look an online check list and ticked lots of boxes for adhd for done rtc and diagnosed. She was perfectly well functioning now quit job, on pip and talks endlessly about it….. it frustrates me she classes herself as disabled.

her son perfectly fine at school, mum gets diagnosed now he also diagnosed and plays up at school all the time, no discipline, 24 video games

thats one example

Bull shit
You dont get PIp by doing an on line assesdment and deciding your autistic
You need evidence.

DontBuyAnotherBook · Today 18:42

My son starts school next month. I doubt without support William he be smashing through school without support. He also has a autism diagnosis.

What is the relevance to benefits? Autism can impact on your life, it is a disability.

Ally886 · Today 18:43

Whattodo1122 · Today 17:59

I’m sorry for those that truly struggle but so many I meet who got their private diagnosis honestly giving everyone a bad name and meaning empathy and understanding is disappearing so quickly. Feel over diagnosing doesn’t help.

the impact of screens, poor parenting and lack of boundaries all make a huge impact and now putting all of neurodivergence seems to be the easy option rather then looking deeper.

I'll humour you OP.

In my year group at school everyone got 10 GCSEs. Some may be ND but all have done well. There was no label attached. Fine. That is true for the 5 years before and 5 that followed

HOWEVER, my friend teaches at the same school and 40% of the last 3 year groups have some kind of ND, and I don't expect many of them to do as well based on that title they now have attached to them. GCSE pass rate has halved. Most have some kind of allowance for exams. Unheard of 15 years ago.

You must recognise there are varied severities to autism so your post is broadly out of touch. You are correct regarding over - diagnosis of course.

Whattodo1122 · Today 18:43

AutismProf · Today 18:35

You know what, OP? I am an autism professional, quite eminent in my field. Spoken at national and international conferences, shaped local practice, innovated around our understanding of autism etc

So I don't like to boast, but my credentials as an autism parent are Highly informed.

I have an autistic adult child who despite no learning difficulties spent 4 years in a dark room barely getting dressed. Now age 25 they occasionally pet sit for neighbours but are otherwise unable to work, have dreadful social anxiety and don't shower unless forced. They finally started cleaning their teeth regularly this year having gone about 10 years refusing to do so.

I also have another young adult who we think could have received an autism diagnosis; we never pursued it because they never struggled in their environment and as pp have identified this is meant to be part of diagnostic criteria. This DC is "smashing it" - excellent grades at school, at a top uni, treasurer of a club, volunteers for charity in their spare time, on target for a high 1st and likely to get a high paying job. They do identify as autistic and have mostly autistic friends - but don't claim DLA or other benefits, as they don't need them.

The difference is not my parenting, pal. It's the way the autism has affected each. One has severe social anxiety, severe executive functioning needs, and significant sensory and flexible thinking issues, and no motor coordination issues.

The other has significant social awkwardness but not anxiety, excellent executive functioning, mild sensory and flexible thinking issues, and a bunch of motor coordination issues.

So how about you get off your high horse? Celebrate your youngster without deriding others.

Also - my kids grew up pre-screens, just.

Edited

So maybe they need to stop mass diagnosis and just diagnose those with significant barriers and housebound rather then literally anyone that knows what to say

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SofaFromRomania · Today 18:44

YABU. Your mindset is the reason I don't tell people.

Whattodo1122 · Today 18:44

x2boys · Today 18:42

Bull shit
You dont get PIp by doing an on line assesdment and deciding your autistic
You need evidence.

Evidence and AI are being used hence so many people now on disability benefits

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Ally886 · Today 18:44

x2boys · Today 18:42

Bull shit
You dont get PIp by doing an on line assesdment and deciding your autistic
You need evidence.

You do get pip for coeliac though..... Just in case you want a fact that will piss you off

x2boys · Today 18:44

Whattodo1122 · Today 18:40

My son none but many others getting DLA and absolutely minted!

Its .£778 for the highest rates of DLA/ PIP every 4 weeks

DontBuyAnotherBook · Today 18:44

Whattodo1122 · Today 18:40

My son none but many others getting DLA and absolutely minted!

DLA can be incredibly hard to get. I am sure many of us whose child qualifies for DLA welcome the extra money to fix everything they break which happens everyday but would also rather have a child with no disability.

The ableism seems to be really ramping up.

Naurrr · Today 18:46

Whattodo1122 · Today 18:40

My son none but many others getting DLA and absolutely minted!

I'm cringing for you.

x2boys · Today 18:46

Ally886 · Today 18:44

You do get pip for coeliac though..... Just in case you want a fact that will piss you off

No you dont
Because no condition mskes a person automatically eligible
Its how that condtion impacts you.

truffleruffle · Today 18:46

x2boys · Today 18:19

So on the say so of some relatives opinion.
You have reached this conclusion 🤔

No I see it first hand as I’m also involved with children.
An example on a return flight from Spain passengers were asked to turn off all devices including kindles as we were experiencing a thunderstorm.
The child in front and parent totally ignored this despite it being announced 3 times. He had been on the screen for nearly 4 hours.
The staff then had to approach the parent and demand that the screen be switched off.
Myself and others were amazed when the parent said she didn’t know how to switch off and the child continued to watch the screen. She announced loudly he has autism!
The staff then switched it off with the parent tutting loudly. Com on what kind of example is she setting. Surely even children with autism need to learn some rules.

DontBuyAnotherBook · Today 18:47

Whattodo1122 · Today 17:55

He went through an official NHS diagnosis many years ago, adjustments made and proper parenting and he smashing it not using it as an excuse to fail.

Okay maybe I should smack the autism out of my son and he might stop climbing, running away and speak sentences.

Someonesomewhereinsummertime · Today 18:47

I was reading this post and it disappeared earlier for mnhq to look at it. Why on Earth is it back? This is blatant ableism.

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