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Neurodivergent yawnfest

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Whattodo1122 · Today 17:50

Is anyone else getting so fed up with people ADHD, autism, mental health oversharing this information and making it an excuse for terrible behaviour?

Several times a week people insist on telling me they are neurodivergent or their family and this is why they can’t do this and that…. Yawn!!! It’s like a negative badge of honour they must share and people really don’t give a monkeys.

My Son has autism and is smashing through life, excelling in all aspects and adjusting to life not making excuses all the time and never tells a soul. I’m so proud of him and it’s just shameful how many people are so excited to have this excuse.

Think people need to adjust and get on with life otherwise things are looking very bleak for them all especially as soon as all the benefits stop.

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MiceSpiders · Today 18:07

Anyone else getting this ad on this thread? 😂

Neurodivergent yawnfest
BillieWiper · Today 18:07

So you think everyone should be exactly the same as your absolutely perfect son who suffers zero symptoms of his alleged autism and obviously he's perfect because you're perfect. And those who aren't are 'disgusting'. 😬

I actually don't think this is real. And if it is it's purely here to rattle people.

Octavia64 · Today 18:08

Whattodo1122 · Today 17:59

I’m sorry for those that truly struggle but so many I meet who got their private diagnosis honestly giving everyone a bad name and meaning empathy and understanding is disappearing so quickly. Feel over diagnosing doesn’t help.

the impact of screens, poor parenting and lack of boundaries all make a huge impact and now putting all of neurodivergence seems to be the easy option rather then looking deeper.

Yeah I taught autistic teens for twenty years.

they worked fucking hard and many of them had obvious and clear difficulties, including some who were completely non verbal,

you can’t parent your way out of autism. Or if you can there are literally hundreds of thousands of parents want to know how you do it.

MiceSpiders · Today 18:08

hattie43 · Today 18:06

I’m amazed every kid on MN has autism. ADHD or some other ism . Never known so much of it .

Or maybe parents with neurodivergent children are more likely to feel isolated and look for support online from other parents with similar experiences?

x2boys · Today 18:09

KeepingItAnonForThisOne · Today 18:02

Some of us are parents to nonverbal or minimal speaking autistic children who sadly are not ‘smashing through life’ and ‘excelling in all aspects’ - how would you feel if this was your child? Would you want people you confide in to tell you to stop moaning?

Indeed .

hotmumshit · Today 18:10

Yabu 🙄

PartialEclipseOfTheHeart · Today 18:11

If you have an autistic son you should be well aware autism is a spectrum. You can't use your son as a yardstick to judge every other ND person you meet.

Isittimeformynapyet · Today 18:13

I get frustrated that I have to accept all bad or difficult behaviours in case people are neuro diverse otherwise I am a bad person.

It seems everyone has carte blanche in all situations according to a vocal minority and it's only the NT that need to change the world to fit in with something we don't know about in the first place.

With some folk it's very obvious that they struggle and natural to make allowances, but with others it's impossible to tell until you've already made an unwitting faux pas and found yourself in the doghouse.

Octavia64 · Today 18:14

Ok, op, how do you teach a non verbal 10 year old who has autism to speak?

teach us your amazing parenting?

HoldMyWine · Today 18:15

Completely agree OP, now that virtually everyone has some form of ‘ divergence’ normally self diagnosed, it takes away the detrimental impact of those that are properly diagnosed and genuinely find life difficult. When someone tells me they are ADHD I genuinely roll my eyes.

truffleruffle · Today 18:15

I do believe that many people exaggerate their conditions and yes they cover bad behaviour by using this label.
I have a relative working in primary school who sees this attitude from a lot of parents. The staff can achieve great breakthroughs only to be undermined by a parent who won’t accept this.
It’s such a shame that the services who should be helping those who really need it. I also agree with the OP that the sooner the benefits stop the better.

Whattodo1122 · Today 18:16

x2boys · Today 18:09

Indeed .

I have many friends whose children are non verbal and they absolutely thrive but in a slightly different way. My love goes to families with disabled children as you are massively being let down by mass diagnoses stopping funding from those that need it most.

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x2boys · Today 18:16

Whattodo1122 · Today 17:55

He went through an official NHS diagnosis many years ago, adjustments made and proper parenting and he smashing it not using it as an excuse to fail.

So its all down to your marvellous parenting 🙄
If only i had tried a bit harder my son would also smashing it
And not be profoundly disabled
Maybe educate yourself about the. spectrum bit of the diagnosis.

x2boys · Today 18:19

truffleruffle · Today 18:15

I do believe that many people exaggerate their conditions and yes they cover bad behaviour by using this label.
I have a relative working in primary school who sees this attitude from a lot of parents. The staff can achieve great breakthroughs only to be undermined by a parent who won’t accept this.
It’s such a shame that the services who should be helping those who really need it. I also agree with the OP that the sooner the benefits stop the better.

So on the say so of some relatives opinion.
You have reached this conclusion 🤔

MirrorMirror1247 · Today 18:20

Whattodo1122 · Today 17:59

I’m sorry for those that truly struggle but so many I meet who got their private diagnosis honestly giving everyone a bad name and meaning empathy and understanding is disappearing so quickly. Feel over diagnosing doesn’t help.

the impact of screens, poor parenting and lack of boundaries all make a huge impact and now putting all of neurodivergence seems to be the easy option rather then looking deeper.

I got a private diagnosis aged 34. I can assure you I don't use my autism as an excuse for anything. Rather, it's an explanation for so many things.

You could say I'm smashing it at life. I have two degrees, I work full time, run a car and own my own home. I live alone and independently.

However, I'm absolutely no good in social situations and can't make small talk to save myself. I practice conversations ahead of time in my head and plan what I'm going to say. I started school aged 4 and my teacher described me as "not a good mixer" to my mum. I've had meltdowns in the past caused by auditory overstimulation, completely miss social cues and can't recognise sarcasm unless it's in the right tone. I frequently listen to the same music, read the same books and watch the same films and TV shows.

I'm nearly 40, so screens had nothing to do with it and there was absolutely nothing wrong with the parenting I had.

As the parent of a neurodivergent child, you really should know more about your own child's condition and how others are affected by it.

Whattodo1122 · Today 18:20

Octavia64 · Today 18:14

Ok, op, how do you teach a non verbal 10 year old who has autism to speak?

teach us your amazing parenting?

i wish Asperger syndrome was still used as would be more relevant for my son rather then autism as such a huge spectrum.

My frustration is disabled people are being failed because this new wave of disability that is hugely over diagnosed and people failing to cater for their needs and making excuses and stripping services where home challenges, good parenting, limited screen time could make all the differences

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Catza · Today 18:21

Whattodo1122 · Today 17:59

I’m sorry for those that truly struggle but so many I meet who got their private diagnosis honestly giving everyone a bad name and meaning empathy and understanding is disappearing so quickly. Feel over diagnosing doesn’t help.

the impact of screens, poor parenting and lack of boundaries all make a huge impact and now putting all of neurodivergence seems to be the easy option rather then looking deeper.

You might be surprised to know that for us "older folks" there was often nothing but boundaries and the general attitude that we just must try harder when we were growing up. Did it help? Did it fuck!
You acknowledge that your son does well with adjustments. In order for those adjustments to be made, one needs to disclose their condition. Yea, even socially because it's not tattooed on my forehead and I present as a fully functional adult. If a person refuses to accommodate, I often have to explain that my request is not a whim but I am genuinely not able to do or engage with XYZ. For example, a guy I was dating years ago was getting angry withe that I refuse to "compromise" about having a fan on at night in summer. And wouldn't let me sleep in a separate bedroom either. Frankly, even after explaining that I cannot tolerate air blowing on me, he still thought I was doing it out of spite. So yes, I agree, disclosing was a wasted effort but not for the reasons you think.
Would "proper parenting" fix my sensory issues? I highly doubt it.
On the other hand, my current partner has an autistic daughter and I don't have to talk about my diagnosis at all, he simply doesn't question my needs. So if you find that people mention their diagnosis to you excessively, have a think whether this is more of a reflection on your attitude towards them.

Isittimeformynapyet · Today 18:21

truffleruffle · Today 18:15

I do believe that many people exaggerate their conditions and yes they cover bad behaviour by using this label.
I have a relative working in primary school who sees this attitude from a lot of parents. The staff can achieve great breakthroughs only to be undermined by a parent who won’t accept this.
It’s such a shame that the services who should be helping those who really need it. I also agree with the OP that the sooner the benefits stop the better.

It’s such a shame that the services who should be helping those who really need it.

Are you going to finish this sentence later? 😉

Slightyamusedandsilly · Today 18:22

The older generations in my family have achieved varying success in life. Some have done very well despite ASD, ADHD, dyslexia. Mostly, the family members most affected are scraping through. And a couple have completely dropped out because they can't function well enough to be in paid employment.

So while it must be very boring for the neuro typical population, for some (not all) ND people, life is an insurmountable barrier. I have 3 relatives (ages between 60 & 20) for whom this is the case. Without family to support and help them, they'd be on the streets. For 1, their autism has benefitted them, because literally ALL of their skills are in one, very in demand area. So although their parents (40 years ago) thought they would end up on the scrap heap, they have been very lucky to be able to harness these skills and be at least financially very successful. Life skills are a different thing of course.

But by all means, bang on about how hard it is for you having to hear about neurodiversity. Do you react the same way to women's rights, gay rights, racial equality? Because if so it would indicate a general bigotry and lack of tolerance.

pictoosh · Today 18:23

"People who are struggling with their own or their children's neurodiversity and who seek support and understanding by talking about it just need to be more like me.I'm brilliant and so is my son."

Thanks for your insight. Helpful.

ThatCyanCat · Today 18:23

That's the Ring doorbell fart, the misogynistic credit card non payer and now this. It's starting to feel like an organised effort. Did we laugh at Reddit recently? Or some manosphere site?

Muffsies · Today 18:25

Whattodo1122 · Today 17:50

Is anyone else getting so fed up with people ADHD, autism, mental health oversharing this information and making it an excuse for terrible behaviour?

Several times a week people insist on telling me they are neurodivergent or their family and this is why they can’t do this and that…. Yawn!!! It’s like a negative badge of honour they must share and people really don’t give a monkeys.

My Son has autism and is smashing through life, excelling in all aspects and adjusting to life not making excuses all the time and never tells a soul. I’m so proud of him and it’s just shameful how many people are so excited to have this excuse.

Think people need to adjust and get on with life otherwise things are looking very bleak for them all especially as soon as all the benefits stop.

"I used to have a bad back but i did yoga and pilates and now i'm a gymnast, people who are in shuddering in daily misery with back pain are pathetic moaners, or just after benefits, get a grip!"

That's what you sound like.

Yes, there are people who swing the lead out there, but you can't just take your very limited, individual experience and compare it with millions of very different cases out there just bc of a very generalised diagnosis. But you know that, right? Stop being an arse.

Allmarbleslost · Today 18:25

Oh do fuck off

Anyahyacinth · Today 18:25

Hello...is this the government seeking consent for cutting even MORE services and support?

Divide and rule nonsense...a new enemy ? Testing it's distraction potential from the HUGE issues we face like safe drinking water, healthcare etc etc..

Nope I don't feel like minimising anyone else's experience OP..why would I be so uncaring?

BonaBona · Today 18:26

Whattodo1122 · Today 17:50

Is anyone else getting so fed up with people ADHD, autism, mental health oversharing this information and making it an excuse for terrible behaviour?

Several times a week people insist on telling me they are neurodivergent or their family and this is why they can’t do this and that…. Yawn!!! It’s like a negative badge of honour they must share and people really don’t give a monkeys.

My Son has autism and is smashing through life, excelling in all aspects and adjusting to life not making excuses all the time and never tells a soul. I’m so proud of him and it’s just shameful how many people are so excited to have this excuse.

Think people need to adjust and get on with life otherwise things are looking very bleak for them all especially as soon as all the benefits stop.

you are seriously shallow mate