AIBU to discuss A level success without private school spending?

[Absorbthecost]

Parents/carers who have not spent a penny on Educating their children and they have just received great A level results.

The sacrifices made all the struggle,

I’m interested to discuss families where the child has succeeded without need for private school

https://www.gbnews.com/money/private-school-fees-soar-vat

https://www.ft.com/content/091b214d-231b-414a-8f3e-9ef9fc021926?syn-25a6b1a6=1

Those who did pay,

presumably to secure great results at A level

The same kids off to Uni, placements easier to secure as less international competition. Uni the playing field evens.

And now time to pay for Uni,

https://inews.co.uk/news/education/university-tuition-fees-11000-2030-4705197?srsltid=AfmBOorss52PSHD6xJzisWMdeNxcXDen3IrCGS49nnGH1ZyDnmvTOh_k

A child who did outstanding (without spending a penny) the same result as a family who spent £250k + The above article is a low estimation for a selective U.K. day/ boarding.

The kids holding the same result off to the same Uni, How are families feeling!?…. Did you save to help towards the Uni Fees/accomodation.

Future?

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/ensure-a-top-class-education-for-your-child-b3034138.html

It's annoying when private school parents think they can just go to state schools for 6th forms to look good for university. Well university's sent that daft, they look where pupils have spent the majority of their school life. They also take the personal statements into consideration and life skills. They know you get more life skills from attending state schools. Private dosent guarantee good grades, the child's intelligence does.

It’s perfectly within private school parents rights to look at state school 6th form, and they deserve a place just as equally as any other state school children.

So they can try and beat the system. University's are not daft, they know what you are trying to do. Thankfully it's the kids who win university places and all the kids I know in college can run rings around the private kids who turn up at the last minute

'They know you get more life skills from attending state schools.' - are you able to qualify this statement? I'd be interested if you could point to any data on this - thanks.

They live life in the real world not a private school bubble.

But it’s unreasonable and unrealistic to think that the administration will not put the kids who have grown there as priority. It’s human nature (so long as they believe they are able and not setting anyone up to fail). This is not monitored and not explained it is entirely to the schools discretion. If they have relationships with families it’s human nature.

Are you able to give an example?

There is no beating the system. A state 6th form college can be a good choice after private school.

Remember these parents have previously saved the state thousands and thousands of pounds by not drawing on a state school place. If anything their kids should have a priority place given the huge sacrifice they have made.

Not sure why it’s annoying then, if the state pupils run rings round them and it has no impact.

But they don’t.

My daughter’s in her small private school due to bullying. I still furious we had to do this and would love to have been able to claim back money from state school she should have been able to stay in. Or sue them . I wish we could have sued her old state school.
My thoughts are that we have had to pay to stop her from harming herself and being harmed.
Lucky you that your kids have done so well ! But to me you are just bragging and don’t know how lucky you are.

What does that mean - private school children don’t live in the real world? You know school is only about 8 hours a day for only approx 2/3 of the year . They are not at school far more than they are at school. What do you think they do the rest of the time? Get locked in the building?

The haven't saved them anything, schools get filled with or without private pupils. Your not that important

I see you believe the myth that state school places are ‘free’.

The most obvious is kids are mixing with kids from all different backgrounds. The same cannot be said for private.

From earlier posts I read parents were mentioning that they seek “like-minded” social circles. It comes across as certain intention was to segregate. A conscious decision made to privately educate which can limit the child’s ability to communicate with the wider society. This can be incredibly counter productive and limiting in certain occupations.

No they are not free. Schools get filled without private school pupils, you haven't saved them anything

if your kid is only socialising with kids from their school then they need to get out more.

my kids have friends from school, their local area, from sport, friends of friends. The people they know from school make only a fraction of the people they know. All have different backgrounds. I went all private my best mate is from childhood who lived 2 doors down. She went state. What school we went to just wasn’t a thing.

you are peddling rather silly stereotypes.

i guess I’m just lucky that in London there are so many way to socialise that school really is such a very small part of a child’s social circle.

Maybe in your area, not mine. Overall private school parents save the economy an absolute fortune same with private medical.

It doesn’t make any difference who “saves” who what.

If you opt to pay private school and you believe you “save” the U.K. economy a “fortune” = Should you ever need state/6th you queue like everyone else.

If you opt to pay private health and you believe you “save” the U.K. economy a “fortune” = Should you ever need NHS you queue like everyone else.

Hypotheticals will only cause bitterness. It doesn’t work like that. No one cares as much as you believe they should, they don’t.

when debt to GDP is nearly 100%, when 30 year borrowing costs are over 5%, and when the UK pays £140bn a year in debt interest; then yes it does make a difference that there are those who are less burdensome on the state. Treat them with disrespect and disgust and they will leave. Making our economy even less sustainable. That’s what’s happening, you should be worried.

At least as much. After all, they haven't had state money spent on them on earlier years. It's through the looking glass to prioritise children who have already had money spent on them.

Schrodinger's private schools. So good that they give an unfair advantage which must be offset throughout the child's life... but also so bad that children who have been there can't cope...