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WIBU To call the police?

112 replies

Helpless0190 · Today 12:04

I know myself i wasn't BU. But everyone around me seems to think I was and now I have put myself at risk.

House on the street. Couple, 5 kids. Always volatile, enough shouting and screaming that I can hear their voices carry across the road into my house.

Over the past few years there have been incidents where I have called the police. The male is arrested, she doesn't support it, not enough evidence, nfa. I have also raised safeguarding concerns more than once.

A few days ago there was another incident (on the doorstep, its always on the doorstep) and it was severe enough for me to call the police again. They attended, arrested the male, and for the first time officers went into the property.

What they found was severe enough to remove the children. I do not know all of the details but the officer told me some and it is grim.

Because of this I'm now public enemy number one to the mother, and I'm assuming her partner when he reappears from wherever he is bailed to. She has been screaming over to my house, throwing things around the garden, generally losing it.

And now my own family think I did the wrong thing and I have put myself and DD in danger. But I dont see how I was supposed to sit back and let it happen - especially with what the police uncovered.

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Imisscoffee2021 · Today 14:03

Helpless0190 · Today 12:18

The house attached to them is currently empty, the previous owners left because of similar thing. I'm sure other people have reported them. They must have, this time she knows it is me though. The officer who came for a statement confirmed it.

Hold your head up high, she shouts the loudest and her partner is clearly a shout big man but report everything to the police and if they actually confront you state that you are reporting every interaction which won't help their case. If the police took the kids directly then that's serious, they don't do that for anything but severe neglect. They sound like bullies at beat, at worse abusers, you did the right thing.

category12 · Today 14:08

You could just say the police saw you had a ring doorbell and asked for the footage.

You did the right thing.

Thank you.

dentalflosser · Today 14:09

Safeguarding is everyone’s responsibility.
I have had to do many safeguarding referrals in my role and some were complex situations but children are vulnerable and as previous comments have put, you may have saved those children from abuse and neglect.
I think with the recent tragedy of baby Preston, it will have caused a lot of regret from people that were concerned but did not speak up and for the people involved who did speak up but were not listened to by health professionals.
You 100% did the right thing OP and that took courage. Deny all knowledge of it if the NDN approaches you.

SherbetDipDap · Today 14:16

Well done for reporting. Children are not removed easily so there must have been very serious concerns when the police entered the home. Those poor children.

BornToBeWithYourMan · Today 14:25

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Dolcecof · Today 14:27

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Gross username

Dolcecof · Today 14:29

Helpless0190 · Today 13:30

So when i called the police I didn't give my details and they asked if I wanted to be anonymous. And then once he was arrested and taken, an officer came to my door. He told me that she had said I would give a statement, but he also knew I was the one who reported - maybe from past reports? They've taken my doorbell footage as evidence so it would have been obvious it was me.

I have reported asb to the council in the past but not damage to the property as it wasn't visible to me, now services have been in the house they have found damage though. A lot of it.

This is so weird

you reported anonymously
the woman then signposted the police officer to you for you to give a statement

the police officer took a punt that it was you despite fact you say loads of others have reported over the years?

BornToBeWithYourMan · Today 14:42

Dolcecof · Today 14:27

Gross username

why?

EwwStew · Today 14:51

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No one likes child abusers, trolls or slappers either.

agentmarmalade · Today 14:54

I'm sure that had you not reported them, and later down the line something really bad happened, a death perhaps , the whole world would be bleating that "someone should have done something" therefore you did the right thing. Inform the police every time you receive a threat or the mother has a go at you. It must be really upsetting for you going through this, but YOU DID THE RIGHT THING!

Dolcecof · Today 14:55

BornToBeWithYourMan · Today 14:42

why?

Gross

Uricon2 · Today 14:55

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Until there's another child murdered at the hands of their parents in the news and everyone starts wailing " But someone must have suspected something! Why didn't they do anything?"

ETA crossed with @agentmarmalade

PotatoLove · Today 14:56

You absolutely did the right thing.

BornToBeWithYourMan · Today 14:57

Uricon2 · Today 14:55

Until there's another child murdered at the hands of their parents in the news and everyone starts wailing " But someone must have suspected something! Why didn't they do anything?"

ETA crossed with @agentmarmalade

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Every time the police show up, nothing happens.

Uricon2 · Today 14:58

BornToBeWithYourMan · Today 14:57

Every time the police show up, nothing happens.

The OP has said the police removed the children on this occasion so I have no idea what you mean.

Yogabearmous · Today 14:58

If police removed the children it must have been really bad.
you did the right thing.

Helpless0190 · Today 15:01

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Didn't realise my neighbour was on MN

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BornToBeWithYourMan · Today 15:06

Ok, my bad

GisGasGus · Today 15:10

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I imagine children rescued from abusive childhoods would be pretty grateful to whoever did that but, hey, don't let that stop you sounding like some kind of wannabe Eastender

NoLifeguardOnDuty · Today 15:11

Act stupid. Say something back like "what are you talking about? What's gone on? Is this why the police came round and asked if I had any doorbell recordings on Tuesday?"

She suspects but she doesn't know anything. If she keeps harassing you ring the police non emergency line and report her. It all adds to the case they'll be working through to give the kids the best chance to thrive.

mbonfield · Today 15:21

Op Ask the Police for a Protection alarm or at least ask them for an assessment. The alarm could be linked to a receiving station for an immediate response.
As this is so sensitive the Officer taking the statement should have asked you to attend the Police Station and not make it obvious to anyone.

saraclara · Today 15:30

The officer who told her that "the woman across the road" would give a statement, threw you under the bus. That was an appalling breach on his part.

I'd be reporting that error and using it to get support from the police force.

TheFormerMrsTruelove · Today 15:31

Helpless0190 · Today 12:30

I own my house, the problem one is local authority housing.

Which brings me to an interesting bit, while i was sitting here typing her parents have arrived and they are all frantically loading black bags into their car. There is a chance she may be leaving. I really, really hope so.

And as for nobody going into the property until now - I dont get it either. I have raised safeguarding concerns myself before. As far back as 2021. They have had more kids since then and at least one arrest in that time. I didn't know what the inside of the house was like otherwise I would have made more noise to safeguarding about things.

I wouldn’t get your hopes up. I think it’s more likely the police have informed SS and the HA and she’s roped everyone in to help her get the place looking presentable before anyone turns up to inspect the place.

You absolutely did the right thing. She might not think so now. In fact, she might not ever think so. But if the kids have been removed, things must have got really bloody bad in there.

Make sure your doorbell camera is always ready to go. If she’s complaining about it, then it might also be worth getting one of those little cameras that sit on your window sill, just so you’re prepared in case anything happens. And make it very clear that you’ll call the police and the HA and SS each and every time if any anti social behaviour comes your way. You need to show that you won’t be intimidated in your own home.

TheFormerMrsTruelove · Today 15:33

saraclara · Today 15:30

The officer who told her that "the woman across the road" would give a statement, threw you under the bus. That was an appalling breach on his part.

I'd be reporting that error and using it to get support from the police force.

I think it was the woman who told the officer that the OP would give the statement

MichLBee · Today 15:35

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"Grass". How old are you? What a pathetic, childish statement used only by the dregs of society. Anyway, I'd rather people be a grass and help to save abused, neglected children and help victims of crime.²