To ask why the England team (the men) keep falling at the final hurdle, (well virtually at the final hurdle,) at the football World Cup ... and The Euros too?

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Not an England-team bashing thread, but why, oh WHY do they - the men - keep falling at the final hurdle (well, virtually the final hurdle,) every time at the football (soccer) World Cup - and the Euro Cup too...?

They do so well, and get so far, and then BANG they're out. Nearly always in the top 8, or top 4, (and the top 2, in the World Cup once, and a couple of times in the Euros I think,) but never the winner. (Not since 1966 anyway!)

Is it nerves? Is it that they're so anxious to win that they keep making silly mistakes? Are they just not quite good enough? WHAT IS IT? Why do they keep getting so close, but just never manage to get the win?!

As I said, I am not bashing them, and they did well, and I am proud of them, but I just get so frustrated that they can't quite ever get the win!

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Very true!!! 3rd would be very nice though. I don't think England have ever come 3rd before. I mean, they have never done better than 4th place, apart from when they won in 1966 of course.

I'd be very pleased and happy if they come 3rd!

1st would have been better obvs! 😆 3rd is still very good though - out of 48 countries who qualified... Proves (along with being one of only 8 countries who have ever won,) that they are up there with the elite! 😎

Ask that teacher if he didn’t do much for most of the lesson, then stuck his hand up and answered two bloody hard questions that left everyone stunned. Bet he did. Back of the net baby Bells😀

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Jude has run himself ragged in these games ! Even in the arge game he is in goal and is the only person who runs at the striker !
He's everywhere !

Love Jude so much 😍😍😍

He ticks so many boxes doesn't he?

He's got it all hasn't he !
Look on x or u tube " don't be a Messi be a jude" it's a complication of him with the footy kids ! Constantly paying attention , making sure they are ok , not cold offering coats and blankets . He is the only one or two of the players who stopped to talk to a disabled reporter 😍

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He’s lush he is, said in my best Stacey voice, yep I’m part Welsh,

Irish person here. Tournament football supporter only.
Usually Ireland supporter obviously, then Scotland , but in their absence I have been known to support england, but based on some of the comments on here, i realise why people in other nations struggle to support the England team.

Someone upthread made a snippy comment about Ireland not making it to the world cup. In Ireland there are other very popular sports called Hurling, Gaelic football (male) and Camogie (female) . The hurling in particular makes Football look like a stroll in the park, it is an incredibly exciting, non stop, skilled sport by non professionals ie not getting paid. Football pales in comparison popularity wise in Ireland which may explain to some degree why Ireland arent in the World Cup.

Despite the popularity of Hurling, and Gaelic Football, Irish Rugby has more than shown its mettle against every other playing nation.

I dont come on here belittling England in defeat , I actually felt sorry for the team, feel they were hard done by with refereeing decisions and questionable substitutions. In all honesty at the outset I didnt think they were going to win, I wasnt overwhelmed by many of their performances but still hoped for the best despite my horror of the whole 'its coming home' blurb.

So when youre on a public forum debating about why your team has lost and why you dont routinely get support from other nations, the belittling of other teams lack of achievement in that sport doesnt actually help. I dont actually like the whole 'anyone but england ' mantra as I have English relatives and friends but the attitudes and comments on here are maybe the reason why you dont get that support.

Apparently he was lovely.
Our teacher wrote to him wishing him all the best and he replied ‘ Thank you Sir’

Yet another person who doesnt undersand the meaning of the its coming home song
I also remember my irish Dad getting
Dancing around the lounge when ireland got through to the Quarter finals on penalties in 1990.
So i think
Ireland might also get a bit excited if they were in the world cup.

Yep hardly anyone bothers to read the lyrics, it's very self depricating and the "it's coming home" bit refers to the Euros 96 being hosted in England, nothing to do with winning the world cup

But that was the original song in 1996 - the chorus is now very much sung by fans as meaning that they're going to win

These massive Argentina rugby blokes very different to the teeny nasty argie footie players. Different sports I know. Think I may become a rugby fan 😍

Omg they're hoping. Hope and optimism, try it!

Still cheating and trying to start a fight Everytime we score!

I don't undertand rugby tbh they all look like they're fighting to me. At least the argies don't look like cartel members like their overly tattooed footie compatriots

The commentator said a rugby player was built like a terraced house!

Same. Couldn’t be better all round.

I always feel sorry for the kiddies in the crowd when their team is losing, the camera always zooms in to their upset little faces

It's in their DNA

England vs France at the moment - 4:0 to England at half time!!!

Why could they not have done this when playing Argentina?!

Still, great playing from them. They could get 3rd place after all. The best they have done for 60 years!

Because France are not punching us and pulling us down everytime we get the ball.
This is a game of football.
Not a boxing match.
I am proud of our team 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿⚽️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿⚽️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Saka and rashford have been amazing. Imagine if they were on at 60 mins Argentina.

Much better game ,nice players.