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To feel utterly miserable about a future with Andy Burnham as PM?

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OneWarmHazelQuail · Today 01:23

I feel like I'm being stung in every possible way at the moment- £15 a day on tube to work, high mortgage costs, high energy costs, private schooling for SEN child (I was told state wouldn't be unlikely to assist him as he isn't mute or violent). My parents have had to help fund schooling it felt like my only hope as son has behavioural issues.

I also have an unsold old home that I have to rent out as it wouldn't sell. Buy-to-let mortgage costs, agent fees, maintenance and tax put me in a loss position.

I can't bear what the future holds with Andy Burnham. I have no doubt that he will find new and imaginative ways to keep me in this financial nightmare. I'm literally struggling from food poverty but regarded as rich by policy.

YABU- Andy Burnham is actually going to make things better

YANBU- I'm screwed

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SuffolkSun · Today 17:23

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 16:39

I’ll remind you of that when it’s your dd or ds on the receiving end ! Or maybe you want criminals walking around with knives and no deterrent at all.

Seemingly, Cameron and his successors did. After all, they slashed youth services and halved the number of police.

concertinacornflake · Today 17:24

PropertyD · Today 17:14

If the punishments were feared then perhaps there would be less crime.

Maybe the people undertaking these crimes such as drug dealing just need to be understood?

Do you want lower crime rates?
If so, let the experts advise based on what is known to work.

BlackRowan · Today 17:25

Differentforgirls · Today 17:17

Nothing. For the simple reason we’re not finding out why they do it. I have never committed a crime in my life. But I have always had enough food, shelter, comfort, morals and love in my life.

If I hadn’t had that, I might have been a criminal too.

That’s a bit naive. Not all crime is caused by poverty. Counties with sufficient food, shelter and income to survive still have crime.

Laurmolonlabe · Today 17:25

That's not the way tax works,you only pay tax on your £300 pension if you earn over £12570 from other sources.

Differentforgirls · Today 17:28

BlackRowan · Today 17:25

That’s a bit naive. Not all crime is caused by poverty. Counties with sufficient food, shelter and income to survive still have crime.

Thank you for calling me an idiot.

EasternStandard · Today 17:36

pointythings · Today 16:57

Not to mention the problem that Saint Kemi thinks having autism confers an advantage in school because you get extra time etc. That will all go away once she takes us out of the ECHR.

Still with the Saint Kemi? She’s outlasted your Starmer.

LakieLady · Today 17:37

It's a political conundrum - what's popular doesn't work, what works isn't popular.

And it's difficult for a government to get "unpopular" stuff through parliament and implemented, then monitored to show that it works, before the next GE.

Imo that's why governments rarely seem to achieve much of significance in their first term.

glitterpaperchain · Today 17:40

ruffler45 · Today 17:38

It might be hard for you to understand, but some things are too complex to be answered in a mumsnet post

Pedallleur · Today 17:46

LakieLady · Today 17:19

I didn't know she thought that! That's shocking.

I wonder what other ECHR rights she might be minded to do away with?

As many as she and her Party can get away with.

Pedallleur · Today 17:49

EasternStandard · Today 17:36

Still with the Saint Kemi? She’s outlasted your Starmer.

Only because she didn't become PM. Given how long her predecessors lasted she might well be on her way out now and there is no guarantee if she were to become PM about how long she would be in the job

TaffetaAndSobranie · Today 17:49

The current gov are trying to undermine send legal rights ,legal actions are being launched left right and center

Youhadrambledonfor18pages · Today 17:49

EasternStandard · Today 17:36

Still with the Saint Kemi? She’s outlasted your Starmer.

Obviously it’s easier to outlast the pm when you’re in opposition 🙄. Especially when people are so quick to blame the entirety of the country’s problems on someone who’s been in charge for less than two years and many of those problems are caused or exacerbated by things out of their control (like wars in other countries).

EasternStandard · Today 17:52

Youhadrambledonfor18pages · Today 17:49

Obviously it’s easier to outlast the pm when you’re in opposition 🙄. Especially when people are so quick to blame the entirety of the country’s problems on someone who’s been in charge for less than two years and many of those problems are caused or exacerbated by things out of their control (like wars in other countries).

Sure if that helps you get past it. He’s still out due to his own MPs.

SuffolkSun · Today 17:55

BlackRowan · Today 17:25

That’s a bit naive. Not all crime is caused by poverty. Counties with sufficient food, shelter and income to survive still have crime.

You're absolutely right. Tax evasion by multimllionaires isn't caused by poverty. Expanding your druggling smuggling operation across a region isn't caused by poverty.

But, a lot of crime in the UK is caused by poverty as well as long-term lack of opportunity stemming from that poverty. What's the best way to spend on money on chronic thieves do you think? Years before the thief has started operations, through family support, youth programmes, targeted skills training and education during and after school years? Or on housing them at HMP's pleasure during their repetitive cycle in and out of prison?

glitterpaperchain · Today 17:55

EasternStandard · Today 17:52

Sure if that helps you get past it. He’s still out due to his own MPs.

When you have no valid argument just revert to being patronising 👍

EverythingAIIAtOnce · Today 17:57

EasternStandard · Today 17:36

Still with the Saint Kemi? She’s outlasted your Starmer.

To be fair, I don't think you are quite in
a position to criticise people using nicknames for politicians! Will Kemi manage to outlast three PMs and remain as leader for six years as Starmer did, do you think?

pointythings · Today 17:59

EasternStandard · Today 17:36

Still with the Saint Kemi? She’s outlasted your Starmer.

He's not my Starmer, as you well know. But the Badenoch worship on Mumsnet is nauseating - people seem to want to overlook her views on people with autism, and this is the reality many people live with every day. Fair access to education matters so much and yet Kemi doesn't seem to care.

EasternStandard · Today 18:00

glitterpaperchain · Today 17:55

When you have no valid argument just revert to being patronising 👍

If Starmer being out annoys you use emojis.

glitterpaperchain · Today 18:01

EasternStandard · Today 18:00

If Starmer being out annoys you use emojis.

Starter being out doesn't annoy me 😉

EasternStandard · Today 18:02

pointythings · Today 17:59

He's not my Starmer, as you well know. But the Badenoch worship on Mumsnet is nauseating - people seem to want to overlook her views on people with autism, and this is the reality many people live with every day. Fair access to education matters so much and yet Kemi doesn't seem to care.

No the Starmer love was nauseating but it didn’t work in the end. He’s out, good stuff.

SuffolkSun · Today 18:02

EasternStandard · Today 17:36

Still with the Saint Kemi? She’s outlasted your Starmer.

Starmer outlasted Johnson and Truss, and comprehensively trounced Sunak. All in four years.

What's your point?

BlackRowan · Today 18:03

SuffolkSun · Today 17:55

You're absolutely right. Tax evasion by multimllionaires isn't caused by poverty. Expanding your druggling smuggling operation across a region isn't caused by poverty.

But, a lot of crime in the UK is caused by poverty as well as long-term lack of opportunity stemming from that poverty. What's the best way to spend on money on chronic thieves do you think? Years before the thief has started operations, through family support, youth programmes, targeted skills training and education during and after school years? Or on housing them at HMP's pleasure during their repetitive cycle in and out of prison?

Yes and that too! Of course!

but there still will also crime like theft and robbery and assaults and SA and murders even if all basic needs are met.

i do agree that early intervention and youth services are needed too. But they won’t still eradicate crime so policing and custodial punishments will still be necessary too.

glitterpaperchain · Today 18:06

BlackRowan · Today 18:03

Yes and that too! Of course!

but there still will also crime like theft and robbery and assaults and SA and murders even if all basic needs are met.

i do agree that early intervention and youth services are needed too. But they won’t still eradicate crime so policing and custodial punishments will still be necessary too.

No one said they wouldn't be necessary at all

Fed up of people on MN arguing a point that no one has made

pointythings · Today 18:06

EasternStandard · Today 18:02

No the Starmer love was nauseating but it didn’t work in the end. He’s out, good stuff.

I agree with that - he was a poor politician. He did however do some excellent stuff on the international stage - such as not dragging us into Trump's war. Which Badenoch supported at first, then quickly changing her mind in the face of public opinion.