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To feel utterly miserable about a future with Andy Burnham as PM?

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OneWarmHazelQuail · Today 01:23

I feel like I'm being stung in every possible way at the moment- £15 a day on tube to work, high mortgage costs, high energy costs, private schooling for SEN child (I was told state wouldn't be unlikely to assist him as he isn't mute or violent). My parents have had to help fund schooling it felt like my only hope as son has behavioural issues.

I also have an unsold old home that I have to rent out as it wouldn't sell. Buy-to-let mortgage costs, agent fees, maintenance and tax put me in a loss position.

I can't bear what the future holds with Andy Burnham. I have no doubt that he will find new and imaginative ways to keep me in this financial nightmare. I'm literally struggling from food poverty but regarded as rich by policy.

YABU- Andy Burnham is actually going to make things better

YANBU- I'm screwed

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SuffolkSun · Today 14:59

SadiraOfTyr · Today 14:52

Apparently it isn't. Nor was being MP for Leigh for 16 years. Andy Burnham has never held an elected post: well known fact.

Ssh, don't tell anyone but he's also a, gulp, hard-left Marxist. Yeah, I know. I've heard he plans to collectivise farms and introduce five-year plans for production of pig iron paperclips 🙂

Differentforgirls · Today 15:04

LakieLady · Today 14:09

We really should teach the basics of our constitution in schools. So many people seem to be unable to grasp the difference between parliamentary and presidential systems of government.

Do you have Modern Studies in England? It's a social subject like History and Geography.

RaspberryCloud · Today 15:15

ExtraOnions · Today 05:51

“ £15 a day on tube to work” - nothing to do with the PM

“high mortgage costs” - you can start with the govt of Thatcher for that, and successive governments failing to build enough homes. Coupled with high immigration, and a financial policy that has encouraged houses as “assets” not “homes”. However, the % cost of your mortgage has to do with multiple factors, many of which are nothing to do with govt. You have a BTL - nobody has forced that on you.

“high energy costs” because our energy companies were sold by the Tories. Andy wants to look at renationalising things, but the takes time. He took out bus network back into private ownership, and that has been a huge success.

“private schooling for SEN child (I was told state wouldn't be unlikely to assist him as he isn't mute or violent). My parents have had to help fund schooling it felt like my only hope as son has behavioural issues”. - your choice, you made an assumption, plenty of children with SEN thrive in State schools.

“I also have an unsold old home that I have to rent out as it wouldn't sell. Buy-to-let mortgage costs, agent fees, maintenance and tax put me in a loss position” You could have sold this at any point, the main reason a house doesn’t sell is because of the price.

Take some ownership of your own decisions, spend a bit of time studying history, find out gear the government can (and can’t) do, and stop expecting systemic problems to be sorted overnight.

👏🏻 thank you - exactly

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 15:23

The Labour Party should make the most of their last days in government. It’s been an abject failure, the best we can hope for is that this won’t produce a reform landslide.

Differentforgirls · Today 15:26

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 15:23

The Labour Party should make the most of their last days in government. It’s been an abject failure, the best we can hope for is that this won’t produce a reform landslide.

So you prefer Restore?

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 15:28

Differentforgirls · Today 15:26

So you prefer Restore?

No chance!

Differentforgirls · Today 15:30

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 15:28

No chance!

Well at least that's something in your favour. You don't have to reply to this but can I ask who you vote for?

SometimesInTheFall2 · Today 15:31

bafta16 · Today 14:57

And utterly trashed eduction. Hammered out any shred of creativity or questioning.

In what sense exactly? Sounds like a bit of a sweeping statement, particularly for a world-renowned HE sector (until successive governments set about destroying it through chronic under-funding).

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 15:35

Differentforgirls · Today 15:30

Well at least that's something in your favour. You don't have to reply to this but can I ask who you vote for?

I don’t vote for a party per se, I have voted both Labour and Conservative in my life time.

Next election: I will 100% be voting for Kemi Badenoch. As far as I can see she is our only hope. I would never vote for reform or restore. I find it insulting that anyone that has a different view automatically gets called a reform voter/bot.

glitterpaperchain · Today 15:40

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 15:35

I don’t vote for a party per se, I have voted both Labour and Conservative in my life time.

Next election: I will 100% be voting for Kemi Badenoch. As far as I can see she is our only hope. I would never vote for reform or restore. I find it insulting that anyone that has a different view automatically gets called a reform voter/bot.

It's saying 'the loony left' that makes you sound like a Reform vote/bot

pointythings · Today 15:41

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 15:23

The Labour Party should make the most of their last days in government. It’s been an abject failure, the best we can hope for is that this won’t produce a reform landslide.

Days? They still have a massive parliamentary majority and almost 3 more years of their parliamentary term. Meanwhile Reform are slipping in the polls and their leader is fighting a by-election against an intergalactic bin.

But you enjoy the wishful thinking, sweets.

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 15:46

I am so angry that at a moment of great peril - war breaking out in the ME, war in Europe, a Cold War with Russia, cost of living becoming unbearable for some, the issues that are surfacing that are so serious.

The Labour Party choose now to naval gaze. It is entirely irresponsible and leaving the U.K. exposed to far larger problems. Rudderless, leaderless. Where is the policy? Where is the vision? Where is the security of knowing someone is steering the ship?

I am worried we are never going to recover as a country. Financially and in all ways. Now we have a new leader foisted on us that virtually no one wants - and I almost pity him. It’s an impossible task with his party baying for money and insisting on changes he just can not deliver.

Differentforgirls · Today 15:47

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 15:35

I don’t vote for a party per se, I have voted both Labour and Conservative in my life time.

Next election: I will 100% be voting for Kemi Badenoch. As far as I can see she is our only hope. I would never vote for reform or restore. I find it insulting that anyone that has a different view automatically gets called a reform voter/bot.

Well I’m sorry I offended you. Thanks for replying.

Differentforgirls · Today 15:47

glitterpaperchain · Today 15:40

It's saying 'the loony left' that makes you sound like a Reform vote/bot

Agree!

thefireinyourheart · Today 15:47

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 15:35

I don’t vote for a party per se, I have voted both Labour and Conservative in my life time.

Next election: I will 100% be voting for Kemi Badenoch. As far as I can see she is our only hope. I would never vote for reform or restore. I find it insulting that anyone that has a different view automatically gets called a reform voter/bot.

You can only vote for Kemi if you’re in her constituency.

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 15:49

Differentforgirls · Today 15:47

Well I’m sorry I offended you. Thanks for replying.

You didn’t offend me, but others have. Thank you for being so polite.

Differentforgirls · Today 15:49

thefireinyourheart · Today 15:47

You can only vote for Kemi if you’re in her constituency.

I know 🤐

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 15:51

Differentforgirls · Today 15:47

Agree!

I didn’t actually say the looney left! But it is looking like a bonkers party let’s face it, and I think most honest Labour voters would agree it’s been a total shambles.

Differentforgirls · Today 15:53

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 15:51

I didn’t actually say the looney left! But it is looking like a bonkers party let’s face it, and I think most honest Labour voters would agree it’s been a total shambles.

I stopped voting Labour when John Smith passed away and we got Tony Blair. I’m even more left. I vote SNP.

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 15:54

Differentforgirls · Today 15:49

I know 🤐

I am - and when I get to GE I will be voting for the conservatives, she has been a wonderful MP and is a polished professional with real integrity.

soddingspiderseason · Today 15:55

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 15:51

I didn’t actually say the looney left! But it is looking like a bonkers party let’s face it, and I think most honest Labour voters would agree it’s been a total shambles.

I’m a Labour voter and don’t agree at all that its a shambles. Not remotely a “bonkers party”. You are entitled to your opinion but please don’t ascribe your views onto Labour voters.

glitterpaperchain · Today 15:56

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 15:54

I am - and when I get to GE I will be voting for the conservatives, she has been a wonderful MP and is a polished professional with real integrity.

I can't believe anyone would vote for someone who wants to leave the ECHR. A policy they copied from Reform.

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 15:56

Differentforgirls · Today 15:53

I stopped voting Labour when John Smith passed away and we got Tony Blair. I’m even more left. I vote SNP.

Toby Blair was a conservative in all but name, I suppose. Labour lost their party identity, integrity and direction a long time ago, these days they have no idea who they are, or who they are representing. Apart from woke trans groups etc ofc.

OneWarmHazelQuail · Today 15:57

RaspberryCloud · Today 15:15

👏🏻 thank you - exactly

you made an assumption, plenty of children with SEN thrive in State schools.

No. As soon as concerns were flagged, I took him to the GP. As waiting lists were very long, I took him to a private OT and a private speech and language therapist as well as following NHS pathway. In addition, I reached out to health visitor, family centre and autism charity.

In addition, I got in contact with a circle of friends from university who had relevant experience and asked them to opine collectively on documents and guidance provided - this included a GP, a nursery owner, a state school teacher, a parent in state system with 2 SEN kids, a parent with a SEN child in private school. I got them all on a WhatsApp group and gave them detail about my sons issues and current circumstances and asked them to provide their professional opinions based on the facts.

I would not upend my own life, my children's lives, my parents lives on merely an assumption. I spoke to everyone I could and made an informed decision based on all of the information I had available to me.

I'm not saying that there aren't kids in SEN that don't thrive. I'm saying that I needed immediate assistance that the state could not provide. Unless you have seen a child in prolonged, heightened distress, you will never understand.

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SummerPeonies2026 · Today 15:57

soddingspiderseason · Today 15:55

I’m a Labour voter and don’t agree at all that its a shambles. Not remotely a “bonkers party”. You are entitled to your opinion but please don’t ascribe your views onto Labour voters.

In what way do you think turfing out their leader mid term because things are going so badly - how on earth is that measured as a success??