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To feel utterly miserable about a future with Andy Burnham as PM?

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OneWarmHazelQuail · Today 01:23

I feel like I'm being stung in every possible way at the moment- £15 a day on tube to work, high mortgage costs, high energy costs, private schooling for SEN child (I was told state wouldn't be unlikely to assist him as he isn't mute or violent). My parents have had to help fund schooling it felt like my only hope as son has behavioural issues.

I also have an unsold old home that I have to rent out as it wouldn't sell. Buy-to-let mortgage costs, agent fees, maintenance and tax put me in a loss position.

I can't bear what the future holds with Andy Burnham. I have no doubt that he will find new and imaginative ways to keep me in this financial nightmare. I'm literally struggling from food poverty but regarded as rich by policy.

YABU- Andy Burnham is actually going to make things better

YANBU- I'm screwed

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bigboykitty · Today 14:11

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 14:02

He wasn’t even an MP! What part of that don’t you understand? He is going to be eaten alive in parliament. It’s almost worth the license fee.

You're going to spontaneously human combust when you find out that David Cameron became Foreign Secretary though he wasn't even an MP, under Rishi Sunak who, by your definition, wasn't 'elected' as PM.

YourAmplePlumPoster · Today 14:11

Taxes will rise but as usual, it will be the better paid salaried employees who pay them. The rich won't pay and neither will the poor.

thefireinyourheart · Today 14:12

LakieLady · Today 14:07

It was utter madness to nationalise water.

I don't know about other areas, but Southern and South East Water have both been appalling: massive leaks causing the loss of hundreds of thousands of gallons of clean water, people without any water supply for days, even weeks in some cases and having to manage with 4 litres per person per day, and pouring untreated or partially treated sewage into waterways and onto beaches is an utter fucking disgrace.

The fines dished out are nowhere near enough of a disincentive to make them invest in infrastructure, they prefer their dividends and bonuses.

I assume you mean to privatise?

LittleFootprintsInSand · Today 14:12

OneWarmHazelQuail · Today 10:31

I have figured that if I could sell my second home, use the funds to pay down the mortgage in the house I live in, and quit work, I could claim benefits and stay home. This would enable me to prioritise my own mental health and focus on finding support for my son whilst also being able to look after my baby daughter.

However, even if I did manage to sell my home, I would not want to take this route. I think it's a sad state of affairs that this is the best possible option. I want to keep working. The SEN process should be simplified, landlords should not be in a loss making position. It doesnt make sense to me that not working would effectively put me in a better position

I'm not sure I understand this post. If you do manage to sell your second home, it would pay off your family home mortgage? Does that not mean you have quite a lot of equity in one or both of the houses?

Also, if you sell your second home and are living mortgage free (or with extra cash to pay mortgage) on your main home, why would you need to quit your job to live on benefits?

What went wrong at the mainstream state school your son tried, and how old is he?

Additup · Today 14:13

"No one has even heard of Burnham, "
@SummerPeonies2026 what on earth are you on about. He's been involved in politics for decades!!!

SuffolkSun · Today 14:18

TaffetaAndSobranie · Today 13:52

@SuffolkSun you see this does astound me

You didn't know or realise all this? Having said that it all kicked off when my DD was born so nigh on 18 years ago.

It's definatly all there if you care to Google it. It was headline after headline about women left to labour alone , shortage of midwives and wards closing their doors / schools bulging and using play ground to build more class rooms.
Panoroma did the meals on wheels pulled to pay for interpreters, suddenly interprters were everywhere and reports of modern slavery ? Don't you remember the constant press pics of men with Sen found in caravans ?

Sure, doll. So you'll be able to provide documented links to genuine sources reporting on genuine cases that show what you claim, as it's "all there" on Google.

For example, there'll have been Select Committees taking evidence on, for example, women left alone to give birth on Maternity wards across the country because - according to you - the Maternity wards were swamped with immigrant women giving birth, because they didn't register with a GP, and they also undercut local wages. Or something. Those SC reports will be online at the Parliamentary site.

I'll wait for the links. In your own time.

SadiraOfTyr · Today 14:19

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 13:59

Burnham has no right to be there, he wasn’t even an MP until a few weeks ago!! Do we now just give any old bloke on the street the job of PM, because that’s what it amounts too.

I would argue that Streeting or Cooper could have pulled this off, if they delivered on the manifesto promises the public actually voted for. But no, the hard left wanted Andy.

No one has even heard of Burnham, and unless he sticks religiously to the Labour Party manifesto he is going to be toast. I expect he will be toast regardless as your party has split into two and it doesn’t look very pretty from here.

No one has heard of Burnham? He was an MP for 16 years, and a minister under both Blair and Brown. He's twice run (and lost) in Labour leadership races.

The only people who haven't heard of him are those who don't pay any attention to British politics.

You may not agree with his politics, but to claim he is a political unknown is ludicrous.

LakieLady · Today 14:19

Differentforgirls · Today 13:52

What's pitiful is your complete misunderstanding of the UK voting system.

And the idea of Burnham being one of Corbyn's henchmen is laughable. Even McDonnell isn't associated with Corbyn any more.

Corbyn seems to be living rent-free in so many right-wing heads, it's astonishing.

He's really not a significant factor in British politics, if indeed he ever was, and I say that as someone who's met him a few times and found him very likeable on a personal level.

SuffolkSun · Today 14:21

glitterpaperchain · Today 13:53

He was literally just elected what are you on about

The Mayoralty of Greater Manchester is also an elected political post, one which Burnham was elected for three times.

LakieLady · Today 14:21

thefireinyourheart · Today 14:12

I assume you mean to privatise?

Bugger, so I did! And it's too late to edit now.

SadiraOfTyr · Today 14:30

LakieLady · Today 14:19

And the idea of Burnham being one of Corbyn's henchmen is laughable. Even McDonnell isn't associated with Corbyn any more.

Corbyn seems to be living rent-free in so many right-wing heads, it's astonishing.

He's really not a significant factor in British politics, if indeed he ever was, and I say that as someone who's met him a few times and found him very likeable on a personal level.

To be fair, Burnham was in Corbyn's shadow cabinet (despite apparently being a complete unknown who has never held an elected post).

Differentforgirls · Today 14:34

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 13:53

I must have missed a GE where the future PM and party offers their manifesto and the public as a whole vote.

What?

NowSober · Today 14:35

SadiraOfTyr · Today 14:30

To be fair, Burnham was in Corbyn's shadow cabinet (despite apparently being a complete unknown who has never held an elected post).

To be fair, Burnham was in Corbyn's shadow cabinet (despite apparently being a complete unknown who has never held an elected post).

Starmer was in Corbyn's shadow cabinet too along with other ultra leftists like Heidi Alexander, Charlie Falconer, Lucy Powell, & Emily Thornberry.

SadiraOfTyr · Today 14:36

NowSober · Today 14:35

To be fair, Burnham was in Corbyn's shadow cabinet (despite apparently being a complete unknown who has never held an elected post).

Starmer was in Corbyn's shadow cabinet too along with other ultra leftists like Heidi Alexander, Charlie Falconer, Lucy Powell, & Emily Thornberry.

Well quite. I seem to remember that my niece did a week in Corbyn's shadow cabinet for her Y10 work experience. It was the political equivalent of the Pussycat Dolls.

bigboykitty · Today 14:37

NowSober · Today 14:35

To be fair, Burnham was in Corbyn's shadow cabinet (despite apparently being a complete unknown who has never held an elected post).

Starmer was in Corbyn's shadow cabinet too along with other ultra leftists like Heidi Alexander, Charlie Falconer, Lucy Powell, & Emily Thornberry.

Ultra leftists is hilarious 😂

Differentforgirls · Today 14:38

SummerPeonies2026 · Today 13:59

Burnham has no right to be there, he wasn’t even an MP until a few weeks ago!! Do we now just give any old bloke on the street the job of PM, because that’s what it amounts too.

I would argue that Streeting or Cooper could have pulled this off, if they delivered on the manifesto promises the public actually voted for. But no, the hard left wanted Andy.

No one has even heard of Burnham, and unless he sticks religiously to the Labour Party manifesto he is going to be toast. I expect he will be toast regardless as your party has split into two and it doesn’t look very pretty from here.

I’m Scottish and have known about Andy since his support for the victims of Hillsborough disaster.

Differentforgirls · Today 14:41

glitterpaperchain · Today 14:04

Do you have ANY evidence that he is 'hard left'?

Well he is to reform and restore voters.

Youhadrambledonfor18pages · Today 14:41

Additup · Today 14:13

"No one has even heard of Burnham, "
@SummerPeonies2026 what on earth are you on about. He's been involved in politics for decades!!!

This poster is just embarrassing herself more and more with every post.

thefireinyourheart · Today 14:44

SadiraOfTyr · Today 14:30

To be fair, Burnham was in Corbyn's shadow cabinet (despite apparently being a complete unknown who has never held an elected post).

Wait, what? I didn’t know the mayor of Manchester isn’t an elected post?

SuffolkSun · Today 14:45

EverythingAIIAtOnce · Today 14:05

In appreciating that Andy Burnham is a contrived character we notice he has no vision ideas or direction other the following the text book of the 'progressive' left whether appropriate or beneficial to those he says he represents. These being s the people of Makerfield who if he had got his way in incorporating the 'Left's' text book pollution charge, he would have pulled a fast one over the many people unfortunate to not possess great political knowledge

I am sorry but I don't understand this, especially the second paragraph.

Many politicians present a persona, but I don't think Burnham's character is contrived. A contrived persona is Farage's man of the people act (fake photos of watching football down the pub, swigging pints of beer when everyone knows his preference is for upmarket restaurants and red wine). And of course there was Johnson...

Edited

The whole paragraph is jumbled garbage.

Takes some self-belief for the PP to imply in it that they possess great political knowledge which the voters of Makerfield don't.

Additup · Today 14:51

thefireinyourheart · Today 14:44

Wait, what? I didn’t know the mayor of Manchester isn’t an elected post?

Not to mention being voted in as an MP in the 2001 election 😁

Differentforgirls · Today 14:52

YourAmplePlumPoster · Today 14:11

Taxes will rise but as usual, it will be the better paid salaried employees who pay them. The rich won't pay and neither will the poor.

It's actually awful that we still refer to people as "rich" and "poor" but on here the ones demonised are the "poor".

SadiraOfTyr · Today 14:52

thefireinyourheart · Today 14:44

Wait, what? I didn’t know the mayor of Manchester isn’t an elected post?

Apparently it isn't. Nor was being MP for Leigh for 16 years. Andy Burnham has never held an elected post: well known fact.

Additup · Today 14:56

SadiraOfTyr · Today 14:52

Apparently it isn't. Nor was being MP for Leigh for 16 years. Andy Burnham has never held an elected post: well known fact.

😂

bafta16 · Today 14:57

SometimesInTheFall2 · Today 13:19

Feeling sorry for all the posters here who think that Labour, Burnham and even Corbyn are die-hard communists - it must be very sad indeed to live in such fear of the tiniest bit of redistribution in such a wildly unequal country, where the Conservative party and its cronyism have tanked the economy and eroded the social fabric like that. This is pure Stockholm syndrome.

And utterly trashed eduction. Hammered out any shred of creativity or questioning.